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Google have gone a bit overboard with their logo doodle thingy today :)

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Or they could just use a little archive footage.

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Again ;)

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My local Odeon is showing it in 3D for a rip off £13

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shocking when can watch it on tv for free

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Though not many people have a 3D TV at home.

The Odeon in Manchester city centre is fully booked for the 'live' showing

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I'm trying to set it up in 3d for the missus here at home. I can get the test card to look ok on channel 303 but it's definayely not in 3d here.

Probsy the tv though. When I switch it to side by side mode it just makes the card look 2d

Still I'm recording both versions

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true but should be reasonable price not rip off

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Is it Sky you have? If so am sure its not available in 3D. Only Freeview/Virgin/Freesat.

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I have a youview box so it's freeviewHD

Looks like it's on channel 977 on sky by the way

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho...-Viewing-Guide

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Its a special event, they are always priced more than normal tickets. eg Live Opera and other things. Cineworld ticket price is about the same and the 2 near me have both sold out over 4 showings each and added extra tomorrow. Clearly price is not stopping people want to experiance the 50th on the big screen.

Only an hour to go :):)

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Ahhh should be there then. Does the guide list the episode aas 3D. Test card isn't 3D afaik.

On VM the info for the episode on the BBC RB describes it as the 3D version.

Sky wasn't listed earlier in the week so its probably just been added.

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To be fiat it just lists the episode in the guide as 3d not the card. So we shall see.

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One Hour. One Minute.

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Squeeeeeeeeeee!

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well I thought it was fantastic the 3d was excellent as was the sound.

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On the fields of Trenzalore at the fall of the 11th a question will be asked. Silence will fall. Possible spoilers for upcoming Christmas episode.

Silence must fall. This is likely where Smith's doctor is killed and thus silence falls. I think the shocker will be who kills him. River Song anyone. What if she was never meant to kill him on the beach and it all leads to this moment when the question is asked.

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but its the fall of the 12th. The rest of it is possible though :)

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Yeah, was thinking the same but I don't think they'll ever credit Hurt at as a numbered doctor and continue to credit him as the time war doctor. Pain in the arse really.

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Phenomenal episode ...

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She didn't kill The Doctor, she killed a robot version of him if I remember correctly.

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The Time Lords dialogue said 'All 12 of them' 'No, all 13' (or thereabouts) when the brief shot of Peter Capaldi was shown along with all the others

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Ok ... Folks please *stop* using spoiler tags to discuss things that already happened, and things you think might happen. It's not a spoiler unless its stuff that s actually going to happen, but which has not yet been revealed.

;)


Edit (Paul) : I have removed all the spoiler tags, as Chris says, they are not needed for the things being discussed.

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Spot on but she did in fact kill him in Let's kill Hitler. It's just something that sprung into my mind. Maybe he just slips on a Banana.

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That was just amazing.

Everything was epic and a great tribute to the last 50 years.

Capaldi was there too. Even Tom Baker too.

Moffat really pulled it off.

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Seems like it was enjoyed all round. Anyone not like it? Where does it lead? Gallifrey is essentially still locked in a bubble albeit not in time anymore. It can be found but should it be? I suppose it also leads towards possible character returns such as the master etc.

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I grabbed a whiskey and coke, turned up the media centre and just sat there eyes wide open watching it all unfold... Gotta be the best Doctor Who episode yet...

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in a word: Fantastic

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This is definitely worth a watch too http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03lv3mj

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10.2 million viewers, according to the overnights: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25076912

Totally pwnt the X Factor which got 7.7 million.

I reckon The Day of the Doctor should have had total viewing figures of around 12 million by the time timeshift is added.

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enjoyed that very funny

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Well I watched it, wasn't impressed :(

I can only hope that Peter Capaldi makes a better fist of it

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Moffat pulled a complete blinder with this, absolutely loved every minute of it :D

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The 3D was a lot better than I expected. Shame the BBC are abandoning it, though there probably aren't that many programmes that would benefit from it.

Oh yes, and the story was brilliant. Will have been too much for a lot of the Saturday xfactor/strictly audience as it would have required more than 10 seconds of concentration.

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Watched it today on catch-up - I thought it was outstanding.

Loved the humour, and the interplay between the Doctors.

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Well 10.2 million watched it in the UK last night and it's won a Guinness world record for the worlds largest simulcast of a tv drama.

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Apparently Orla Brady (who played Walter's wife and Peter's mum on Fringe) is to play someone from the doctor's past in the christmas special.

Several people speculating (at least in the comments section ) that she could be playing Romana, or The Rani.

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Also, the mirror has a story that Matt Smith is actually the 13th doctor (apparently John Hurt's regeneration does count, and David Tennant is counted as both 11 and 12). Apparently the regeneration limit will be addressed in the Xmas episodes..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/d...s-matt-2847509

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I liked it - and oddly quite fancy Elisabeth ;)

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Some thoughts on the above ...

1. Speculating on a comeback for the Rani has become almost an in-joke in fandom. I would say the chances of it happening are remote. There are other far more interesting former adversaries that they could bring back.
2. Yes, Hurt does count, the General in the war room on Gallifrey counted him when he said "all 13 of them" were encircling the planet.
3. There has been an in-universe explanation for beating the 13-life limit since the 20th anniversary in 1983. The Master was offered a "whole new life cycle" in return for rescuing the Doctor from the Death Zone on Gallifrey. Whatever needs to be done, I would speculate, needs Time Lord medicine. That would tie in with the Doctor's new mission to "find Gallifrey". It might also be addressed by another trip to Karn; as we saw in the mini episode the other week, the sisterhood is pretty handy with Time Lord medicine.

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Hmm ... If the Mirror's "source" knows what they're talking about, they're actually planning to artificially bring forward the regeneration "problem" to this Christmas, by saying David Tennant actually played two regenerations (after that business with the Daleks and his spare hand). If you add Hurt and Tennant-2 to the rest, then Smith is indeed the 13th and final face. So he's either going to find Gallifrey with indecent haste, or else the Moff has dreamed up something entirely different.

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Tried to watch on TiVo iPlayer on Saturday evening and it was unwatchable. Was OK at same time on tablet. Now recording on TiVo to watch later.

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stonking script superb acting great humour dramatic highs....

ten out of ten....

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:shocked: :td:

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Actually you are right, and I did think of the reset the regenerations thing in the Five Doctors. After all, if they are willing to give The Master a whole new set of regenerations for merely saving the Doctor, what would the Timelords give to the Doctor for saving their entire civilisation?

As for the speculation about who Orla Brady is playing, it is just that: speculation. Personally, I'd far rather see Romana back in some form or another (after all, she is a time lady and in many ways, superior to the Doctor) than the Rani. Mind you, it might be interesting to have an evil Time Lady. Maybe they could make it Romana and say she was turned evil by her experiences in e-space, or the time war (assuming that any Gallifreyan other than the Doctor is left with any memory of the time war)?

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I think RTD has also implicitly dealt with the regeneration limit by bringing back the Master, who regenerated in the normal way, rather than body snatching as we saw him do previously. Perhaps he got his new regeneration cycle in return for joining the Time War.

On that subject, if the Doctor does find Gallifrey, that's where the Master currently is ...

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I watched it tonight and I very much enjoyed it, I think it was a shame the Chris Eccleston wasn't involved and I thought Tom Bakers appearance unnecessary.

But very good, I did enjoy Capaldi's cameo.

And in regards to regenerations, and the double Tennant.

When the general says "all twelve of them" and someone says " no sir all thirteen" that's when you see Capaldi's face.

So that would suggest to me that Capaldi is 13.

And the Mirror story is wrong.

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Sorry, just correct myself.

I understand now that there is no argument that Capaldi is no.13.

Just that to get there there needs to be 13 regenerations, which is one more than he has.


I see now, yes I think it's best they address it now. Will be interesting to see how it's done.

I don't like the idea of being 'granted' extra regens. I would hope it's something a bit more biological.

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Shouldn't that be 12 regenerations. As there are 13 Doctors but the second Doctor was the first actual 'regeneration'.

Capaldi will be the 13th Doctor but the 12th Regeneration.

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12 generations 13 lives. Yes.

But what is being proposed in the earlier posts is that Tennant the tenth, but actually the 11 th doctor used up 2 regens.

Which means that Smith, the 12 incarnation actually came into being on the 12th regen.

We know that Capaldi is the 13th as it that made clear on the Saturday.

Which means to get to Capaldi, if we say that tennants second regen into himself was an actual regen, we need to magic a regen out of something.

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In an episode of Sarah Jane the doctor mentioned he has 507 regenerations left somehow. I assume that is to be ignored?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9D-2HJMD9s

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That is only if that counted as an actual regeneration.

Also didn't River give the Doctor all her regenerations?

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River used all of her regenerations to revive him. I'm not sure if she actually gave them to him though.

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Well, er, yeah.

That's why we're speculating about it.

This has all come from the post Chris made with the story from the mirror.

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I think my brain needs to regenerate after reading the last few posts :erm:

All will be revealed in just over 4 weeks ;)

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http://static.bbc.co.uk/programmeima...s/p01m7s5v.jpg


Christmas is coming and it’s The Time of the Doctor! That’s the title of the forthcoming Christmas Special which will also see the Doctor’s latest regeneration and Matt Smith’s final appearance.

Alongside this announcement the BBC has released an iconic image for the episode and a mysterious synopsis…

‘Orbiting a quiet backwater planet, the massed forces of the universe’s deadliest species gather, drawn to a mysterious message that echoes out to the stars - and amongst them, the Doctor.

Rescuing Clara from a family Christmas dinner, the Time Lord and his best friend must learn what this enigmatic signal means for his own fate and that of the universe.’

Judging by the image released, we can certainly look forward to the return of the Cybermen and the Silence in the Christmas Special – it looks like being a truly festive cracker of a special.

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RTD said that was a joke.

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I have just watched it on Iplayer and i was expecting a continuation of the Trenzalore storyline so a little disappointed in that respect but it was a good episode and opens up a host of new story possibilities with the Time War having a different outcome and Gallifrey being lost and ready for finding

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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...en-moffat.html

Steven Moffat has said that Matt Smith is the 13th doctor, so we'll have to wait and see how they introduce number 14..

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...en-moffat.html

Also, the eighth series is not split.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...en-moffat.html

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Maybe he's just gunna be an old version of 13.

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I think, in a way, it is. We know that Clara visited all of the old doctors (well, minus John Hurt) and we know that all of the doctors (including John Hurt and Peter Capaldi) helped freeze Galifrey. It's logical to assume that even if she didn't understand what she was carrying, she carried a message from Matt Smith's doctor describing the calculations needed.

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Personally, I think there is a reason that Steven Moffatt suddenly included the Sisters of Karn after they'd been ignored by the program since the 4th Doctor's era..

In case anyone didn't see either the Paul McGann mini episode that was released a week or two before the 50th, or the original Tom Baker story, the Sisters of Karn maintain a sacred flame, which is used to produce the Elixir of life. Personally, I would not be surprised if they couldn't also reset a timelord's regeneration count.

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Perhaps they're counting the Peter Cushing Doctor ;)

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I've seen two different interviews with moffat and whilst he states he is the 13th Doctor he also confirms Matt is thill the 11th Doctor in an other one am sure.

Very confusing. He is the 13th including Hurt and the failed 10 regen but if Matt is still 11 what tricky does Moffat have up his sleeve.

Oh well bring on Christmas Day :-)

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A scared flame..? how intriguing ;)

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Corrected.

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New trailer for the Christmas special.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01n75m9

Looks great. Intrigued by the Dalek speaking a very interesting phrase. Had heard some rumors about that.

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BBC America Dr Who trailer

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Looks like it might be a great xmas special for once.

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I quite liked the one last year

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First clip from the Christmas Special

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01nq7xz

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Christmas is DEFENDED

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I usually love most if not all episodes but that felt crap until the last 15 minutes or so. I guess I just expected more after the 50th :(

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Really enjoyed that. I loved the nod towards 1980s style regeneration with the Doctor hallucinating old companions.

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Yup, I really liked that one.

I think that the Christmas specials can be quite hit and miss... that was one of the good ones, IMO.

Dealt with the regeneration issue in the expected way, tied up the Silence and their connection to the arcs in previous Matt Smith series (the crack and the stuff with River).

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Hmmm.

Well I guess it dealt with the regeneration (pretty much as expected) but tbh, I did not rate that as good as the 50th special last month.

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Well it explained the sequence of regenerations, but it didn't explain why the doctor was miraculously given another regen by the time lords, or how, or how many more he has or anything.

It was another typical Moffat/RTD "it all just works out in the end" get out.

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Because Clara told them he needed their help, I guess.

He said that he got a whole new cycle of regenerations.

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Did he? I must of missed that bit, but I had consumed rather a lot of wine.

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Yeah I'm a bit confused with the whole 'reset' thing, was it even mentioned? Was there a clear reason given?

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edit: I just watched that bit back on iPlayer and if I've got this right, when Clara went to the 'rip' and told the Time Lords to help him, they reset his regenerations to allow him to cheat Matt's "death by old age" and destroy the Daleks.

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Yes it was explained, Clara spoke to the crack and begged the Timelords to help The Doctor, so they granted him a full cycle of Regenerations.

Not sure why they would do that though.

I thought it was really good. Best Christmas Episode in a long time. Wish we'd got a few more mins of Capaldi.

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That's the bit that annoys me - it was a bit of a leap and IMO needed at least some indication of an explanation. It seemed to cater for DH purist/nerds only. They didn't need a 10 minute dumbed-down discussion or anything, just something that made it a bit clearer for the rest of us.

Other than that yes, a really good episode.

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Well, he did save Gallifrey in the 50th anniversary episode.

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That makes sense although they could have made some sort of reference at the time.

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Not only that but it's a pretty safe bet he's the only one who can get them out - and knowing he's about to peg it it's definitely in their interests to help him out.

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And let's face it, they give out new regeneration cycles to any old bugger.

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Don't tell Bruce Forsythe :D

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Yeah, they gave another cycle to the Master, why not the Doctor?

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I would like that hour of my life back :(

Xmas TV? Bah Humbug!!!!!

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New full trailer for Series 8 released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivqZTq5u6Y

Looks absolutely amazing!

Capaldi is going to be the best Doctor in a long time I think.

Also start date is the 23rd August on BBC1 and BBC1 HD

http://static.bbc.co.uk/programmeima...s/p021r6zc.jpg

New promo image.

Everything including the trailer is giving me a very Third Doctor feel. Especially the outfit and look of that promo image. I am also really happy that he has kept his strong Scottish accent.

Also in recent weeks there has been a leak from BBC Miami which was recently created. The leaks included the scripts for the first 5 stories and also a rough in progress copy of the first episode. Apparently its black & White with little music and no or little CGI.

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Capaldi certainly has a darker feel to him. They were filming down this way yesterday. Not so sure about the accent though, I think I'd have preferred it if he'd done a "David Tennant".

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What do you mean about doing a 'Tennant'? I prefer the stronger Glasgow accent that Capaldi has. ? McCoy had a great strong accent too.

Better than sounding too English IMO.

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I suppose I understand why it's leaked, but I personally won't be downloading them. I've waited this long to see the series. Another month and a half isn't going to make an awful lot of difference.

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http://s27.postimg.org/l0eit2dmb/drwho.jpg

It does have music throughout so I think it's more sound effects, some cgi and some touchups.

Apparently one of the BBC America sites had the script and the video on a publicly accessible server by mistake. The video was supposed to be for a company to translate subtitles in to Portuguese I believe.

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It may just be temporary music though as I understand the opening titles still refer to Matt.

How anyone could watch that is beyond me. Would ruin any enjoyment.

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I almost did the other night but i'm glad i resisted. Workprints are always missing a lot.

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Doing a 'David Tennant' - using an English accent instead of Scottish, I much preferred Tennant's Anglicised tone. Not suggesting Capaldi's performance or the series will be any worse for him using his native accent, just saying what I think I'd have preferred.

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All these 'leaks' recently....surely I'm not the only one to be cynical enough to notice the subsequent publicity the show has received as a result...?

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Quite possibly.

There was a copy with the top and bottom cropped so the watermarks were not showing. Quick flick through suggests the only stand out bad thing is it's black & white + cropped but could be wrong. Not something I would watch either though.

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Dr Who is one of the few that most definitely does not need to pull publicity stunts like this.

The new Marvel Flash series leak was almost perfect to watch except the actual show looks naff. That could probably have benefited form the leak publicity though....

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Nobody is saying leaks are needed. But they don't hurt.

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They do hurt - there are a lot of Who forums all over the net, and there are plenty of brain donors who wouldn't think twice about putting a spoiler in a thread title where anyone could see it. It happens, regularly, despite forum rules and lots of people have their enjoyment spoiled before moderators can act to remove them.

Steven Moffat has spoken out against people who leak such stuff online and there's no way he would be party to a policy of publicity via leaks.

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Generally content makers will say that unfinished/workprint leaks do hurt as the product isn't polished up and thus the audience will have a lower opinion of the work and give worse reviews which in the end is bad news.

There have been games which have leaked early and got bad reviews and negative publicity based on bugs which were not in the final version, so it's not just video this relates to.

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I don't think they hurt that much - all publicity is good publicity and all that.

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Thats a fallacy, just ask Mr Ratner. ;)

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Hey we're still talking about him nearly 25 years on...

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Not buying his crap jewellery though ...