Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

As would I

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Website is now live at www.virginmedia.com/boxnation

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Yeah, sure would be nice to have a free week or so of BoxNation.

Probably a stupid question, but do BoxNation also play classic fights from years ago? I'd love to see some of those classic LaMotta vs. Robinson or Ali vs. Frazier encounters again.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

box nation have been showing old fights,,,but only from around 2000 up to today,,,,its on free to air everyday for about 6hrs.plus the free live fights.its been on FTA for about 4mnths free.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Pretty much the recent repeats are from Frank Warrens archive featuring the likes of Enzo Maccarinelli, Alex Arthur etc... I remember reading either at Boxnation or Twitter that they may introduce action from the archives of Sauerland Events in Germany and Golden Boy Promotions from the States. I also remember reading that through time they might try to introduce MMA to the channel too.

If you have ESPN the first Ali Vs. Frazier and Ali Vs. Frazier III are currently available on demand in the ESPN folder.

Oh I've just remembered reading Boxnation might also have a deal to share some of the KOTV archive which means some classic action might turn up on the channel.

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That's me registered via the link provided by Ben. Noticed this info at the bottom:

"*By completing this form you are giving your consent to be contacted by Virgin Media Entertainment, so that Box Nation can be added to your current Virgin TV package. Box Nation upgrades must be kept for at least 30 days. Premium TV Services are provided to you by Virgin Media Entertainment, the trading name of Future Entertainment SARL which is a subsidiary of Virgin Media. Future Entertainment SARL is registered in Luxembourg (registered number B145414). Its registered office is at: Mediacenter, Betzdorf, 11 rue Pierre Werner, L-6832, Luxembourg"

So just like other Premium channels it looks like you're not making any long term commitments by adding the channel.

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P.S. for anyone who's interested here's the latest e-mail I've received from Boxnation:

"Hello boxing fans,

Thanks for your interest in BoxNation, the UK’s first dedicated boxing channel.

We’ve been incredibly busy getting ready for our launch and we’d like to take this opportunity to give you a bit more information on the channel and how to subscribe.

BoxNation becomes a subscription-only service on the 1st of December. This date is the same for both Sky and Virgin Media customers, and subscription will cost just £10 a month.

From early next week, you can subscribe through our website - http://www.boxnation.tv/ - more on this to follow.

You can watch free on Sky platform channel 456 up until the 1st of December. For the time being, we’re unable to show any more fights online until after the SKY/Virgin launch but we’d like you to know that there’ll be some exciting news for online viewers coming soon.

Our first live fight after the launch is Cotto Vs. Margarito on the 3rd of December. It’s going to be a fantastic night of boxing so come and join us!

You can follow us on Twitter - @boxnationtv for more exclusive boxing news and updates. Remember to tell your friends!

BoxNation"

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Its just been stated that Box Nation will be on VM on December 1st at £10.00 per month.

I think that to too high, £5.00 yes, They have said that they will provide good fights, but this could be a sales gimmick to get subs in.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

You could be right. Like any premium channel you only have to keep Boxnation for 30 days. So if the quality and volume of fights drop after a couple of months, you can simply cancel the channel. The guys at Boxnation need to continue delivering the goods on a regular basis to keep people paying. It's the only way the channel can succeed.

I don't mind £10.00 per month personally as long as I'm getting plenty of live action each month. I usually buy every PPV show. In the past year I've bought, or shared the cost with my brother for the following:

28th November 2010 -Carl Froch Vs. Arthur Abraham - £15 (Primetime)
15th April 2011 - Amir Khan Vs. Paul McCloskey - £15 (Primetime)
20th May 2011 - James DeGale Vs. George Groves - £15 (SKY Box Office)
04th July 2011 - David Haye Vs. Wladimir Klitschko - £15 (SKY Box Office)
22nd July 2011 - Amir Khan Vs. Zab Judah - £15 (Primetime)
19th September 2011 - Floyd Mayweather Vs. Victor Ortiz- £15 (Primetime)
12th November 2011 - Manny Pacquiao Vs. J.M. Marquez - £15 (Primetime)

7 shows cost me £105.00 in total. Each show runs about 3 hours so my £105.00 got me roughly 21 hours of viewing. When you take this into consideration, you must see how boxing fans see a dedicated channel for only £10.00 per month as great value.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

First of all I'd just like to say how pleased I am for all the forum members and boxing fans alike who have eventually got their wish with Boxnation finally launching on VM...

Now regarding zekeisaszekedoes question I don't think it's stupid at all. If the standard of today's boxing/fights was anywhere near as on par with the one's you've mentioned and not to forget all the other greats ie.-Louis-Marciano-Foreman-Holmes-Tyson-Hagler-Hearns-Leonard etc to name but a few as well as all the other weight classes/divisions who were just as exciting to watch. Now I would willingly subscribe to this new Boxnation channel even if it were £50 per month. But that's if the likes of today's standard of boxers were anywhere near as good as those who I've mentioned above but sadly in my opinion they're not. So that's why I'll stick to ESPN where I'm guaranteed quality every time whoever happens to be on..

The above post is only an opinion of mine of which I'm entitled to.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

You raise some fair points. I long for another Hagler-Hearns-Leonard or Benn-Eubank-Watson.

Depending on what your TV package is there's still plenty of good boxing out there without Boxnation. Amir Khan and Carl Froch are both on SKY Sports, Eurosport show replays of recent international fights every Tuesday night plus Tyson Fury is on Channel 5 every few months. Oh and ESPN Friday Night Fights returns to ESPN on the 06th January 2012. The shows tend to feature unknown fighters but boy they give it their all. Channel 4 still show KOTV even though it's tucked away at about 3am on a Wednesday morning. I watched it earlier. The main event was highlights from the recent Boxnation broadcast of Nathan Cleverly Vs. Tony Bellew.

Even without Boxnation, boxing is getting some really good TV exposure at the moment. I beleive the last Tyson Fury fight on Channel 5 peaked with an audience of 3.5 million.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

BoxNation now on Virgin Media EPG.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Yes those boxers were greats and are not like a lot of todays boxers who talk the talk but can't do much else.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Indeed denphone which makes me wonder wether the standard of todays boxers could sustain a subscription channel at say £10 a month,if the quality is not there,be interesting to see how well it does and if it gets many takers on VM.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Well I have signed up, can cancel after 1 month so decided to give it a try.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Better Late than never

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

So true about the standard of today's boxers not being up to par with the old legends. Some of those guys had 50-100 bouts or more during the course of their professional career... modern fighters like Haye struggle to reach even 30!

And the channel pic again...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/11/25.jpg

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Virgin Media confirm more info on how to order BoxNation to Media Boy.

Virgin Viewers can now order BoxNation via www.virginmedia.com/boxnation

or if you can wait until December 1st you can give Customer Services an call and they will add BoxNation to your package.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Hi everyone,

You can now email any specific questions you have about your subscription package to our dedicated BoxNation email address: enquiries@boxnation.co.uk

Thanks for the interest!

BoxNation ;)

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I've noticed that the FAQ's have been updated on the Boxnation website.

Two interesting updates:

6. Is there a HD offering?
There are plans to develop a HD offering - date to be confirmed.

&

8. What’s the minimum contract length?
The minimum contract is 6 months.

I assume the 6 month contract is for SKY viewers only? I notice SKY viewers get the chance to subscribe for 6 months for the price of 5.

@Boxnation If and when you do launch a HD channel, please try your hardest to bring it to Virgin Media too. We Virgin customers are just as HD daft as the SKY customers!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

The one month contract is the selling point for me, with the rugby league being over for another year i will be getting shut of skysports for a couple of months so im happy to try boxnation see how it goes. But a six month contract and there is no chance i would bother! Shame we wont get two months free, as there is only the Cotto/Margarito fight thats worth paying £10 for, still glad its available to us Virgin customers

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Hi Chad

I am on the XL TV Package by the way (not subscribed to any SSC's though) but I do have access to the sports channels = Eurosport - ESPN etc.. I have sometimes stayed up to watch the odd live fight they sometimes show on Eurosport > or it could be ESPN though like you said < usually between 2-4am and must admit there's some quality fighters on show at times. Be curious though to see just what the future holds for them? As for KOTV on Channel 4 you mentioned well I've been recording that on the series link for well over a year now so I don't have to stay up till the early hours. Shame when commentator/voice over Nick Halling left the show but must admit the other bloke who's taken his place is doing a fine job. Don't know if you caught the half hour show of the best KO's of 2011 the other night on ESPN but that was well worth a look. Now just one last thing is when you mentioned Tyson Fury being on channel 5 for the next few months - I'll go for 1 or 2 months at the most then channel 5 will have to find something else to put on because (only my opinion) "and I hope I'm wrong" he's just waiting to be KO'd!

Just one more thing and it's about channel 4's KOTV programme they showed a couple of day's ago. There was a short tribute to Smokin Joe Frazier. He didn't actually say it on the programme but he was renowned for saying that
Boxing was the only sport where -

Ya brains got shook
Ya money got took
And ya name ended up in the Undertakers book

RIP - Smokin Jo Frazier

Regards
Rivva

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

hi , i agree i think tyson fury is an accident waiting to happen , and like you say it will be interesting to see what channel 5 do if/when he does get ko'ed , i cant wait for boxnation all the behind scenes , bunceys boxing hour , etc etc , ive got sky sports , i would love to get rid of them (pricey) , but cant because they are still showing some good fights , it would be great if boxnation worked with matchroom who have a great stable of boxers and prizefighter , and hatton ,and hennessey, we would no longer need sky sports

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Haha yeah... maybe he'll turn out to be the next Audley "Fraudley" Harrison, a warmup punchbag for better pro fighters as they work their way up the ranks!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

@ Box Nation, Why did you change your mind and not give VM viewers a chance to "try before they buy", like you did with Sky?

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I guess cos they don't want to give away the big fight on Dec 3th for free!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Looking back I believe it was the intention of Box Nation to launch at the same time on Virgin as they did on SKY. Unfortunately it appears negotiations took longer than planned. December was always their prefered month to go live as a subscription channel.

I think we missed out on a Freeview period purely down to prolonged negotiations between Box Nation and Virgin. I noticed that the channel is launching in the Republic of Ireland next week too. Irish customers aren't getting a free period either.

I'm just happy that I can now get access to the channel. I enjoyed many of their recent shows for free via their online stream.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

do you think they will show repeats of their other shows , i.e the burns fight , cleverly etc , i hope so .

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Hi all,

Any queries can be posted on our Q&A facebook page - we'll be answering people's questions throughout the day today.

BoxNation

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Just had the phone call, signed up.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I must admit KOTV is not exactly an excellent programme but it does deliver action and news for boxing fans who only have terrestrial TV. I did catch the best KO's of 2011 on ESPN last week. The KO at the end of the show from 2007 was epic! As for Tyson Fury on Channel 5 I totally agree that a KO is coming his way real soon. Don't be surprised to see Mick Hennessey either trying to land more talent or trying to quickly push Kid Galahad and Chris Eubank Jr. to chief support and main event status.

There is live action tonight on Eurosport. It's small hall action from England from 8pm I think. Worth a watch, could be interesting.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

hi im not on facebook or twitter , will you be showing repeats of your other shows that were shown live on boxnation , burns etc , i cant wait to get boxnation , driving the misses nuts going on about it.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

lebedev fight on now,,,,for about the 10th time.cleverly fight been shown at least 10times.all the past boxnation cards are repeated times many.quantity but not much quality up to present time.from what ive seen for free these past 4months i think you all may be disapointed to have to pay £10 for it.it could all improve once frank starts raking your tenners in.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I definitely won't be surprised at anything Mick Hennessey say's/does especially after the comment he came out with during Fury's post fight interview about the 1st 3 rounds being on par if not better than the epic Hagler v Hearns fight way back in the 80's. And correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure I recall him saying that we all know Eubank jnr is the best middleweight there is. He did mean in the UK though surely but even so he's still only ranked at 32,

Not sure what I'm doing around 8pm tonight so I'll stick that Eurosport boxing on record just to make sure.

PS...Yes that KO at the end from 2007 must have been saved purposely for the end of the show because like you said it was epic.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I like it enough to have it on series link. But if I got the paid sports channels I'd probably value it less.

See that's what puts me off... paying £10 for the same recycled footage over and over. I wouldn't mind if it were Classic Bouts and we saw some of the legendary fights (there are plenty of great ones in the 50s-90s archives) but not the same fight from a few months ago on loop.

Maybe he's just shilling weaker fights to make viewers feel they're getting their moneys worth?

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I don't think l will be getting the channel, £10.00 per month is too much, it cannot guarantee big fights all the time.

It will be the same, you will have top fights for the first couple of months and then bingo, l have been a big boxing fan for years, but there isn't a big British boxer out there today.

Khan is over rated and always gets easy fights and that is why he wins so many, l might be critical, but when was the last time we had a big boxer in this country.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

real diehard boxing fans will pay

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

To some/most people £10 may be a fair price but obviously to you Arthur It's a bit too much. And regarding not having big fights on all the time well nothing's guaranteed nowadays is it...

However if you do decide to subscribe why not have the channel on record all/most of the time then that way you can fast forward the one's you don't think are worth watching but when you hit on a top quality bout (because there's bound to be some) just sit back and enjoy..

That would be my theory anyway if I were to subscribe.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Well not for the first time I've been let down by Virgin. I requested my callback to subscribe to Boxnation between 9am and 12pm today and as expected I received no call. I chose today between 9 and 12 for a reason, it's the only time of the week I know 100%for sure I'll be at home ready to answer the phone.

Now I suppose I could reschedule my call for next Saturday at the same time but I'm concerned for 2 reasons. First of all what if the call doesn't come again? Secondly the display on channel 546 suggests it might take 24 hours to activate the subscription. With next Saturday being a massive night of boxing on Boxnation why should I run the risk of missing out because of a delay with my channel being activated?

I know Boxnation read this thread so I want them to understand that if this is happening to me, if will undoubtedly be happening to other Virgin customers too. The success of Boxnation will be based on the volume of subscribers, and the longevity of those subscribers keeping the service. Virgin are not helping Boxnation at all.

Personally I hate when someone promises to do something and they don't see it through. I took the time to log my details with Virgin and they haven't had the decency to contact me at all. I know the details I provided are accurate as I kept a screen grab of the info just in case this happened and I had to complain.

Does anyone have a number I can call Virgin on to add Boxnation to my subscription? I am not prepared to request another callback as I have no faith in the callback being received.

Out of interest, has anyone else not received their phonecall at the time and date they requested?

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

virgin 08454541111

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

On the EPG Box Nation is not populated from 1/12/11, it is still listing "coming soon".

Is there a launch problem :confused:

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Yes I got mine yesterday afternoon.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I'm sure you can call Customer Care as normal on 150 (0845 454 1111). Sorry you've been missed in the call-backs mate.

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No problems AFAIK.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

What a waste of 15 minutes that just turned out to be. I spoke to a lovely Indian lady who did try her best but ultimately couldn't really help.

Firstly it took her a few minutes to find out what Boxnation was and when it was due to launch. I was then told the system would not accept her request to add the channel today however she would arrange for something to be flagged on the system to have the channel activated on Thursday. Mmmmm, now I'm not usually a doubting Thomas but in the back of my mind I was already visualizing getting home from work on Thursday and no Boxnation being available.

I advised whilst I appreciate her efforts what I'm really looking for is someone to call me back today, as I requested online, so I can discuss the change in my package and new overall monthly charge. Unfortunately she didn't seem aware at all that people have been registering online for Virgin to call them back. She told me she was sorry as she couldn't arrange a callback.

I thanked the lady for her help but advised I will continue in my efforts to try and get in contact with someone from the team who was actually supposed to phone me this morning.

Not only am I already :mad: about not getting my call but I'm also :mad: at how difficult it is to speak with someone who actually knows the situation about Boxnation.

Does anyone have a number that will get me through to Virgin in the UK without fail? I really don't want to submit a complaint however I'm wasting a lot of my own time trying to sort this out, especially when Virgin were supposed to be phoning me.

Again some feedback for Boxnation. Whilst I know this problem is being caused by Virgin, not every customer that has to go through this rubbish will be so understanding. There will come a point when other Virgin customers going through this hassle will hold you accountable too. It doesn't reflect well on your name or product.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

At the moment only pre-registrations are being accepted. Customer Services, whether in India or the UK, can't put the package onto your account until 1st December.

I suggest calling on that day. That way the package will be added while you are on the phone.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I think that's what I'll have to do. A little bit annoying as I am a pre-registered customer.

Anyways thanks for the info and support from Virgin employees on this thread.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

some questions i asked on the facebook page have been answered

me-will virgin media customers get the 6 months for 5 offer?
boxnation- I'm afraid not. We actually can't control the pricing on Virgin so we weren't able to secure the 6 for 5 offer.

me-any chance of showing some of the great fights in world boxing over the last 20 or so years barrerra maroles pacquiao gatti corales castilla among others. cheers
boxnation-You'll be glad to know that we will indeed be showing some great old fights as well as the new ones too! Hope you enjoy it...

me-the website could be updated with the times each event starts on tv as at the moment it says every Programme starts @ 18.00(UK time)
boxnation-thanks for the feedback. We're actually about to launch our new website on Monday (fingers crossed!) which we will be able to update more easily. Improving the schedule information is definitely on our list of improvements!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

After being ignored in various forum threads in which Boxnation are participating, I sent them an email to ask them why the free period and 6 for the price of 5 months wasn't available to VM customers and for details about commercial subscriptions for bars for Sky customers (VM no longer offer commercial TV subscriptions.)

As in the post above, they appeared to be blaming VM for the lack of promotional incentives. I would have thought that, as a stand alone premium channel, Boxnation would have the final say :confused:

They went on to say that they didn't know if/when they would be offering commercial subscriptions, that they would have to consult their legal team and left it at that!!!

I have written back asking for confirmation that they will let me know when they have any idea what's happening.

So far, I am inclined not to bother with this channel on a personal or business level.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I looks like you guys are having mixed fortunes when dealing with Boxnation. I'm happy that after almost 2 months of silence we now seem able to have proper 2 way conversations with them.

It's good news about the classic fights, good news about their website being upgraded, bad news about lack of promotional incentives.

The main thing for me, if they are still operating, is what they intend to do when the boxing season comes to a close for 5 to 6 weeks at the end of July? Nobody is going to pay £10.00 per month for no live action. Maybe Frank Warren, with his large stable of fighters, intends to box right through and ignore the end of the boxing season.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

[QUOTE=thatllbeme;35335770]some questions i asked on the facebook page have been answered



me-any chance of showing some of the great fights in world boxing over the last 20 or so years barrerra maroles pacquiao gatti corales castilla among others. cheers
boxnation-You'll be glad to know that we will indeed be showing some great old fights as well as the new ones too! Hope you enjoy it...

unless they have told you what old fights they are going to show when not showing live action i will be very sceptical because frank warren can only show the few fights he owns sole rights too.and they dont include classics.it will cost him a fortune to buy the temporary rights to all the fights we would like to see.the old fights he has shown these last 4months have been far from classics,although i have enjoyed watching martin rogan do harrisson etc.that may give you an idea what his old fights may be like.last nights card was a poor one too.the lads are brave to get in the ring but theyre not a good watch.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

[QUOTE=AZIMUTH;35335786]As far as l know ESPN have most of the rights to classic fights of the past.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I've just been thinking about what Boxnation told you, and the following from the bottom of this page:

http://www.virginmediaentertainment....n/Default.aspx

"Premium TV Services are provided to you by Virgin Media Entertainment".

So just like SKY Sports, SKY Movies etc... when you subscribe to Boxnation you aren't actually getting then service from them at all. Virgin are providing the channel. So it will be true that Virgin are in control of any promotional incentives, and I suppose the actual price on their own platform. So if you take Boxnation you aren't actually a Boxnation customer. Virgin are the customer of Boxnation. We are simply consumers.

I wonder how the carriage deal works? Maybe Virgin pay Boxnation a flat rate to carry the channel each month regardless of how many subscribers it gets i.e. £50,000 per month. Virgin then essentially have complete control how they distribute the channel. Alternatively maybe Virgin get £1.00 of the £10.00 subscription fee with the other £9.00 going to Boxnation directly.

It's all very interesting, and way over my head. Nothing but pure speculation other than the fact that Boxnation are only providing the channel to SKY customers directly and not Virgin customers.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

hi i to have had no call backs from virgin tried 3 times, i phoned virgin on my home phone on 150 and they were not very helpfull at all , they said i couldnt register till the first , :mad

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

[QUOTE=denphone;35335787]http://www.frankwarren.tv/index.php/...oxnation-.html

"There will be daily fight news updates and an extensive archive bringing back classic fights from home and abroad and featuring some of the world's greatest ever boxers including Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard and many more."

I'll have a root around as I specifically remember something being published online confirming Golden Boy Promotions would be providing action from their archive as would KOTV. Whilst ESPN have a great classic archive do not underestimate how much footage KOTV own the rights too. Once I have the link I'll post it.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

http://corporate.sky.com/skyviews/ed...oadcasting.htm

Unlike Virgin Media, the Sky platform is required by law to be open to all broadcasters

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Unfortunately this echoes my experience today. I've signed up again for a call on Monday night. If I don't hear anything I might have to go crazy Edwin Valero style:erm:

For anyone who doesn't know the Valero story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8630196.stm

Also here's some footage of him in action. You'll see why he won all 27 of his fights by K.O!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrn5T...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI63_...eature=related

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

one crazy mo fo!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

You may have hit the nail on the head!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Wasn't aware of Valero... great bully style, tough chin as well by the look of it. Reminds me of a lightweight LaMotta which is no bad thing.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I didn't hear of him until 2008. He was already WBA World super featherweight champion at that point just about to make his move up to lightweight where he captured the WBC title. I managed to catch his fights via Youtube and other less reputable sites.

His brain surgery in 2001, prior to turning pro, really held him back. He struggled to fight in America with most of his career based in Venezeula, Mexico and Japan.

His aggressive in your face style, plus crazy punch power was a pleasure to watch. He could have been a massive name if he fought in the States more often. He's now in a short list of former world champions who's career ended without defeat.

Many say his head injuries from 2001, plus punches taken in the ring, may have caused demons which contributed to the violence towards his wife. There is also speculation cops killed him in his cell and made it look like suicide. I personally feel people are trying protect his legacy.

I don't condone what he done but becoming a 2 weight world champion by the age of 27, without really featuring in America is a massive accomplishment. 27 fights, 27 wins by K.O. is impressive.

One day someone will make a movie about this guy. His story is far too triumphant and dark for it not to be told.

Thinking back Valero was on the books of Golden Boy Promotions. Maybe Boxnation will repeat some of his fights? His first 18 ended in the first round. You could probably watch this guys whole career within 4 hours.


If you want to see a crazy K.O. check this out from last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzmY8KJY74Q

Best K.O. of 2011!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I remember you saying there was live boxing on Eurosport at 8pm on Friday and I said I'd record it just in case I was out or whatever. Am I glad I did record it because you won't see a better/crazy(the one you put on YT) KO than that in a while. The rest of the event wasn't too bad but that was definitely the highlight of the night...

I also recorded Boxing Super Fights that followed straight afterwards featuring = Roy Jones Jr - Michael Moorer - Fernando Vargas to name but a few "Brilliant" that's when it was worth watching..

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Last night KO was crazy. I didn't put it on Youtube but I spotted it there and thought people would enjoy it.

Boxing Super Fights can be pretty good at times. It just bugs me watching it on Eurosport HD. The picture defaults back to 4:3 with black bars down the sides. The HD logo hangs "off the screen"

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

So does this channel actually provide the boxing that so many fans have been missing out on since Sky began to milk the sport? :erm:

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

It's providing fans with the action they missed since Setanta Sports closed. Another positive about Boxnation is they show hours worth of fights from the undercard live meaning plenty of young and upcoming boxers are getting good exposure. The success of Boxnation, and the quality of their live British shows, will be based on subscription levels. The more subscribers, the better the fights.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Also the better the cards and fights the better the subscription. Swings and roundabouts.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

every week different fights get added like last nights card and last weeks also. fair play to them if they can get it they will and like chad says the more people who subscribe the more money they have to bid for the bigger fights like pacquiao and mayweather

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Going from the performances he put in with the video links you posted I'd be more than happy to spend an evening doing that.

Bloody hell, that is awesome! The five punch flurry was deadly accurate and even looks clean (good technique) when in slow motion replay! Hope he goes on to face more worthy opponents in future.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Only time will answer that question.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

the boxnation websites been updated and looks worse and with less info than the one they had

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

It looks the same to me. Isn't the new site set to launch tomorrow?

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Hi guys,

The new BoxNation website has recently gone live - you'll be pleased to know we'll be adding more content to it shortly! In the meantime you can post any questions on our facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/BoxNationTV and we'll respond.

BoxNation

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Subscription is now avaiable through our website - http://www.boxnation.tv/subscribe/

All the best,

BoxNation

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Checked out the sub's, sorry £10.00 is too high for one channel, no matter what it is, they will give big bouts for the first couple of months, then they will give you mediocre fights.

Its like box office on Sky, you watch the crap fight first, and then the big one that last about two rounds, these promoters are not stupid, niether are Sky or VM.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

It seems nothing can please you Arthur no matter what it is.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

You cannot win with anyone on this forum, You have members complaining about paying money for extra channels, on the VM network and that they won't pay it.

And yet you have ONE channel comes on for £10.00 per month, and you will have members queuing up to pay it - doesn't make sense.:(

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

youve got it sized up right arthur,,,,,Boxnation and his pals have worked out the market potential and they will clean up.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

At least with Virgin if you take the channel, and Boxnation aren't delivering the fights you think they should, you can simply cancel the channel as long as you've had it for 30 days.

If you are right then why not get the channel to watch the big bouts for the first couple of months then cancel?

For Boxnation to be a success they need to deliver big fights and live events week in, week out or people will simply walk away. I'd rather pay £10.00 per month for a dedicated channel rather than £15.00 every 10 weeks for a PPV show that only lasts 3 hours.

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I signed up again online for a callback about Boxnation. My call is due today between 4pm and 9pm. So far nothing. Still just over 2 hours to go.

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Okay good news, Virgin called me back and the channel has been added to my package.

I was very interested that the individual who called me back politely reminded me that the Amir Khan fight on the 10th December is on SKY Sports, not Boxnation. Is that part of the official information virgin have asked to be confirmed over the telephone? I'm sure Boxnation wouldn't be happy to hear Virgin customers are being reminded what their direct competitor is offering in a couple of weeks time.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

that maybe a reminder so u dont cancel sky sports in favour of boxnation.

im a bit disapointed with the new website like chad no info on future events or anything other than registration stuff

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Well it's better they do that than get people to add it on and then phone back and complain when they don't get the Khan fight

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I've just found the following link:

http://my.virginmedia.com/customer-n...BoxNation.html

"Will the Khan fight be on BoxNation?

The Amir Khan fight scheduled for 10th December won’t be on BoxNation as it’s showing on Sky Sports 1. To upgrade your TV package to include Sky Sports visit www.virginmedia.com/skysports."

So the guy who spoke to me was on the money and not just free styling:D

Can I confirm is this £10.00 for multiroom or £10.00 per Virgin box? SKY is £10.00 per box!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

It'll be per account, same as PPV events are now

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I'll tell you what, £10.00 for multiroom and the fact you only need to keep the channel for 30 days is pretty good. Whilst SKY customers got the channel free for 2 months, it's the Virgin customers who are getting the better deal.

Unfortunately for Boxnation SKY customers are having all sorts of problems adding the service:

http://www.facebook.com/BoxNationTV

I hope they can sort this out shortly as I really want Boxnation to be a success. The more customers the better.

Also the Boxnation site has now been updated. Total overhaul:

http://www.boxnation.tv/

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Sky customers who subscribe before 8pm on the 1st of December will also be entered into the draw to win a pair of VIP ringside passes to our massive ‘This Town’s Not Big Enough’ event at the Liverpool Echo Arena on Friday 9th December featuring James DeGale.

sky customers getting even more freebies!

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thats the website i seen last night chad dunno why you couldnt?

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

whatever happens to boxnation in the future it wont be your fault if it fails chad.virgin and bn couldnt wish for better support...

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Mmmmm...... For some reason it was the old site for me right uo until only a couple of hours ago. Very weird.

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That's very kind of you. I'm just very passionate about boxing. It's been hard to get real international coverage on TV since Setanta went bust.

Like everyone I knock Virgin from time to time, but when they do deliver for their customers they try to do it right.

I find it crazy that SKY customers have to pay £20.00 per month to watch the channel in 2 separate rooms, and be tied down to 6 month contracts.

Through time it would be great if Virgin could agree an on demand service with Boxnation.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Agreed, Sky is the best in the world if you're a big fan of wanking money away. :D

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

The thing I'd like to know here is who stipulates the multiroom box charge on Sky as BoxNation sell the channel , as a potential subscriber on Sky you order direct with BN I believe.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

It's Boxnation themselves I believe according to info posted on Facebook. Don't Premier Sports charge by the box too?

Well here's the listings for the 01st December 2011:

1.30pm - 3.30pm - Maccarinelli Vs. Marosi

3.30pm - 5.30pm - Cleverly Vs. Bellew

5.30pm - 7.30pm - Hopkins Vs. Dawson

7.30pm - 8.00pm - Box Nation - Are you in?

8.00pm - 9.00pm - Chavez Jr. Vs. Manfredo Jr.

9.00pm - 11.00pm - Broner Vs. Martin / Alvarez Vs. Cintron

11.00pm - 1.00am - Burns Vs. Katsidis

I've been avoiding the results from Saturdays Broner Vs. Martin / Alvarez Vs. Cintron
card hoping they would repeat the fight this week.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Possibly , it's strange as BSKYB sell MUTV , Chelsea TV and ESPN and these don't incur another sub for your multiroom box.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

They seem to be saying it's Sky?

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I can believe that , seems the other channels I mentioned sell via Sky maybe that's why their channels are included as multiroom.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

You know what, I think Boxnation are still very much in their infancy and are still just taking baby steps. They are getting lots of feedback and suggestions via Facebook already on how they can improve their service. Personally I think that you should only ever have to pay 1 fee to watch a channel throughout your home, regardless of how many boxes you have.

I'm sure Boxnation will in time review their multi-room policy.....that's if they even have a clear one at the moment. I'm just going by the posts on Facebook today back and fourth between potential customers and Boxnation.

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From what I can see SKY are in noway affiliated with the sale of Boxnation on the SKY platform. Frank Warren / Boxnation really don't like SKY:D

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I suspect a technical limitation rather than an evil moneymaking scheme. BoxNation don't know which cards are linked on your Sky account, so can only put it onto the card number you specify. It would be open to fraud if you could provide a list of card numbers.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Hi Chad, thanks so much for your messages, we really appreciate the feedback and are taking it all on board. What do you think of the new site btw?

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

The design of the site is good, it's got a real old school boxing poster feel to it.

One helpful addition would be TV listings showing what is actually on your channel each day. Also confirmation of who you have content deals with, if you are allowed to reveal this info. Finally some info regarding fights coming soon would be great.

Looking forward to this Saturdays action. Hope it's Andy Kerr and Buncey in the studio.

Good luck!

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

my free to air is encrypted from wednesday and i wont be joining sky or virgin so i hope you all will keep posting and keep me posted as to the quality of boxnation,,,happy viewing.Terry Marsh was FWs best fighter.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

hooray got my phone call last night , i agree chadd a tv listings would be great very helpfull , i fell like a big kid waiting for boxnation :D also a news section would be good , wil there be any 24/7 programs for the cotto fight .

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Cotto Vs. Margarito 24/7 would be great! A news section on the site would be a really good idea.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

Thanks Chad and dempseyjack, I have passed your recommendations onto our site managers for consideration, we're definitely aiming to have a lot more useful information up there soon.

BoxNation

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

That's great news. Through time it would be good if the BoxNation website had it's own forum for subscribers and boxing fans to meet up and chat. I know you already have Twitter and Facebook accounts but I feel there could be real value in your own dedicated forum. As you'll already know boxing fans like to chat online before, during and after fights. People watching fights on BoxNation need a place to meet.

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

1. upcoming events
2. tv schedule
3. uk news/world news
4. tickets
5.forum
6.competitions
7. Q&A with buncey and others
8. ? please add anything else you can think of???

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

I really like the idea of having ticket info available on the site. Maybe BoxNation customers could get a little discount, or first choice of tickets, whenever a Frank Warren or Queensberry Promotion show is announced.

Competitions would be great too. Who doesn't like the chance of winning a freebie? Even if it was just BoxNation T-shirts!

The guys at BoxNation will need to spend all this incoming subscription money on updating and maintaining their website at this rate:D

Re: BoxNation on Virgin Media?
 

i registered on the site to win tickets to the groves smith burns katsidis fights and also got my mates to enter,one of my mates won 2 tickets and i was going to go with him but we didnt find out until 8pm on the friday night and i was at work at 8am saturday so it didnt give me any time to sort someone to cover me and i couldnt go so it would be better with a bit of notice(i live just outside middlesbrough)