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Like I said, no end product with him. ;)

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Well we all have a different opinion and thats fair enough.:)

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well I guess only time will be but Fergie obviously didn't think he was going to make the grade.

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Depends what you define as end product.. No matter who you buy and for what amount you pay.. They will never match Cristiano Ronaldo. I bet that is the problem there. Because the lad couldnt score 40 goals a season from Midfield he aint good enough. Nani and Carrick both get called crap by people who claim to be United supporters and I'd bet its simply because they are not Ronaldo.

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I hope we don't get him. £3m for that? I thought it was good we'd just recouped £2m off Routledge then they go and blow it on crap.

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So who would you buy.

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The unwanted Man Utd twin. Simpson's useless and Enrique's out the door, so got to fill the gap.

Obviously a striker could come before that even but I have no idea who I'd buy for there.

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You're so wrong there ;)

I actually like Carrick and we have had other good players during our time than just Ronaldo ;)

I wasn't expecting him to score 40 goals from midfield, what I was expecting him to do, was to get some of his crosses into the box or when he passed, the ball went to another Utd player. Stuff like that ;)

He was one of those players who could run with the ball, but you didn't have any confidence that anything was going to come of it. Just my opinion from watching him.

Anyway, like Denphone said earlier, we are just going to have to agree to disagree ;)

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Having seen Routledge at Palace when he was younger I wouldn't pay 2p for him. Not really sure if he's improved that much over the years either.

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I see Routledge as a tip and run player and thats about it.

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You would have been alright, City haven't sold out their allocation...


Massive club lol

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He's my OH's cousin - we don't rate him much either ;)

Went to the pre-season friendly at Anfield earlier with Valencia, Adams really didn't look match fit. At one point he seemed to have a coughing fit :erm:

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When's he ever looked match fit, he reminds me of Jan Molby, great passer, very poor athlete.

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Chelsea look like signing a very talented player called Romelu Lukaku who some have compared to Didier Drogba.

http://www.premiershiptalk.com/2011/...ee-lukaku-fee/

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Chelsea are not making any sense what so ever. To start they know the Uefa fair play lark comes into play soon and they are still spending more than they bring in.

Secondly how many strikers can you have at one club without offloading any?

Surely Drogba, Kalou or Anelka will be looking to leave after this signing. The three of them will have a hard time finding a new club with their wage demands out of proportion and no club will be willing to pay a substantial transfer fee when two of them are over 30 and nearing the end of their career's.

Back onto this whole twitter thing. Its pretty clear the situation at Newcastle is they don't want anyone to know what is going on behind closed doors and sparking another fan protest. Other clubs want it banned in fear of possible sanctions of the Premierleague (Ryan Babel incident) (Rooney Incident)

The fact is there is no use in banning Barton because he is just going to reveal all when he transfers out.

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What does he sulk a lot:erm::D:D:D:D

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I won't be surprised, Barton seems to me to be a guy without honour, and a hypocrite.

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Well he would not be different to many other players who tend to throw the dummy out of the pram.:cry::sulk::cry::sulk:

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I must admit..I am curious about what Arsenal are planning.

They look to be loosing Sami (be stupid not to take the £20m odd), and fabregas looks to be going (sympathetic to arsenal here, I think Barcelona have been out of order, tapping up fabregas, then not offering a reasonable sum for someone with a long contract, cheeky at best)

But arsenal has lacked a decent goalkeeper, and a bit of bite in defence and midfield. Pretty players do not make a complete team.

Maybe they do need a Parker and Cahill....a bit of balance wouldn't go amiss

After all that, I'm only concerned..as i like the idea of a competitive league..so need arsenal for that...and they do play pretty football at times..easy on the eyes (God i missed football over the summer :D )

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l have to agree and yet here we are 1 week away from the start of the season and Arsenal have done near enough sod all in the transfer market apart from the Gervinho signing and he has been bought in to replace Bendtner.

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Yeah arsenal has been too quiet in the transfer market only what 1 player signed and bendtner not sold yet.

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Who is still at the club :dozey:

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Yes the deal is not quite sealed yet.

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Russ, if you see this before kick-off fancy a fiver bet on todays Man City v Man United match? Who's ever team loses pays £5 via the gift option on PayPal (or to charity if the winner chooses one)

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I hope city win [wash mouth] as its better then manure

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game about to start...I'm eating steak, chips and beans..cup of tea as well

Life doesn't get much better (unless i had a fried egg, none in..and neighbours don't have chickens here)

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Well l am plumping for Man City and l have just had chicken korma.

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Me too (re city, not the korma :D )

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1-0 to Man City and its Lescott who scored and the defending is very poor.

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WOW, what a shot!!! 2-0 (Dzeko)

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And it is now 2-0 and its Dzeko this time, wonderful, wonderful.

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Who was your fiver on.;)

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Half time

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Great game :D, over the moon

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Yes l cannot wait to phone up my dad if this scoreline continues until the end of the match.

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Ohhh, and since 2007, the winner of this has won the league

Nope..not hoping...yet :D

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It really wasn't a great shot by Dzeko, it was woeful goalkeeping.

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Agreed...but still enjoyed it

I think sky sports studio guys said de gea lost 11 goals from shots outside the box...not hard guessing what other teams will do :D

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2-1 now as Smalling has just scored for Utd.

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2-2 now as Nani has just scored.

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Still so far to go for City to be serious challengers.. Absolute class goal... 2-2

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Game on

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games not over until the fat lady sings...where is she?

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Seat #23157 perhaps?? ;)

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Also West Ham are feeling right at home in the championsip.

22-West Ham
23-Leeds
24-Bristol City

Sorry... had too :p:

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She's a big girl..not sure about fat lady :D

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Shame if it going to penalties, they should both share the trophy especially as it's a charity game.. Would be a great start to the season

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3-2 to Man utd as Nani has scored. and thats it.

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Why should they share it.. your team just lost ;)

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Now why do MU always do that to us in the last minute :cry: :)

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Try reading what I typed :rolleyes: I said IF IT GOES TO PENALTIES :rolleyes:

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Good game, I enjoyed that.. nice and fiesty as the MU/MC derby's always are and a good start to the season.. Well done MU :clap:

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Bit of banter :p: Don't be a sore loser! that was great!

By any chance did any of you see 'The Sun' advert right after?

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Sorry Kymmy about the last minute injury time winner and now l have to phone up my Man utd supporting father.

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I bet that will go down well with been a Liverpool supporter :erm:

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No it has not gone down well with this Liverpool supporter.:bigcry::bigcry:

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Lucky for you I've been out all day :D

City will forever be the 2nd club in Manchester, even if it's a micky mouse trophy :D

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A good result for United today albeit only being the Community Shield, however, the new boys in must think they are onto a good thing, only one competitive game under their belt and they get already get a medal.

I was quite impressed with Tom Cleverley when he came on, he seemed to boss midfield quite well considering who he was up against, long may he continue.

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21 attempts on goal to 8, 56% of possession, the second goal from Nani was as good as it gets, made City look like statues.

City did win the yellow card count 5-2 though.

New keeper looks like he will need some time to find his feet.

All in all a very enjoyable game.:cool:

City need the new Argie to fire, Ballotelli is a liability ATM.

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I thought we dominated pretty much the whole game and were very unfortunate to be 2-0 down at half time. Hopefully those were De Gea's mistakes for the season done with. Cleverley changed the game in the second half, if he carries on playing like that we should be alright in central midfield this season.

It was a great atmosphere, which suprised me with it being Wembley. One of the best that i've been to.

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Also, if i was a City fan i would be completely fed up of Mancini's negative tactics. United pull it back to 2-2 and he takes a striker off for a holding midfielder. Then doesn't even try to win the game late on. Why didn't he bring Aguero on? It's a friendly against your biggest rivals, at least go for it this time instead of playing for penalties!

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Love this photo!
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The picture to me seems to say "I hope that you know what you are doing"

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To me it says P45 :D

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car't wait for the new season come on liverpool

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It would appear I am not the only one that thinks this ^^^^ along with Shadow Demon UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14445029.stm

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West Brom seem set to break their transfer record by signing Shane Long.

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Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain undergoing medical at Arsenal ahead of £12 million move.

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Good player, could be great, one of England's more exciting prospects. Although we have enough quality in that position...

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Where do you believe Arsenal are short as in my humble opinion they need one or two centre backs, a goalkeeper, a defensive midfielder and a goal poacher.

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A centre back and a left back. The rest is good enough.

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l have to disagree with you because when l watched them last season Song or Diaby were constantly out of position when playing the defensive midfield role and they need someone in the Viera or Petit class to fill that position and have they not got Kieron Gibbs for left back position.

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Song plays a box-to-box holding midfield. Which is what Vieira did.

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But the problem is Damien he is not in the same class as Vieira as Vieira kept his position very well and Song does not hold his position as well.

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Song holds his position fine if he bombs forward then Wilshere tends to stay back or the other way around, there isn't really a problem there.

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But l see Wiltshire as a inventive playmaker rather then being in that position but everybody has a different opinion and thats what makes the game so great.

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But where is the evidence that his roaming causes problems?:confused:

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Watch some of last seasons matches where they dropped points and you will see that the defensive midfielder needs to keep his position but on occassions last season the player in that position went missing thus leaving the centre backs with no protection in front of them and thats what Petit and Vieira were so good at closing that space thus they won trophys when they were there and the present lot have not won anything for at least 6 years.



Aresenal sign Alex Chamberlain.

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Arsenal need a striker

Midfield..someone like scott parker..to compliment others

Defense, not sure..someone that wins balls in the air

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Arsenal had the best defensive record from open play last year, all without our best center back. Suggests to me the problem is not the midfield.

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We now added Gervinho :) Also Van Persie was another long term absentee last year, if we keep him fit then he is a goal machine.


This. Someone on set-pieces to command the defence and take control.

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Arsenal need another defender like cahill or any other central defender that is able to shout and hold the line and in my opinion a defending midfielder like parker and or bowyer

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I would love to see Bowyer at Arsenal lol

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well yeah I can see where you come from Shadow...

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Agreed, except I would choose parker...not sure about Bowyer..mainly as i don't like him...suspect if he knew me..he would say same about me (or ignore me...:D )

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I can't believe we've done it again! :mad:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14448089.stm

Look what happened when we sold Walcott... :(

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There was no way your board or chairman would decline an offer that substantial given your finances and league.

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No offense but you must have known it was coming?

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I know contracts are meaningless nowadays, but he signed a 3 year one last August.

Doesn't make it any less painful.

Depends if/how the proceeds will be spent.

A club either has ambition or it doesn't...

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The contract would have ensured you got a high price for him. Gave Southampton a strong position. Clubs have been circling him for a good while now and I think he came close to signing for Arsenal a couple of times as well. I hear he shows more promise than Walcott did at his age, one of Englands best young players, he wasn't going to stay below Premier League for long.

Still you should take great pride in the amount of young players you have developed.

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Yeah, fantastic. It really helps us get to the top flight when we spend money developing them & then sell them on...

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Well it does. You make a profit, your slowly mounting the leagues, when you get promoted to the Premiership you'll find it easier to keep them. :)

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Only if the profit is invested in players who will make a difference...

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west ham game called off next england

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England's friendly is also called off

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Tottenham want £14 Million for Roman Pavlyuchenko after an approach for Newcastle.

Doubt we are stupid enough to pay that amount for a player like him.

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You were stupid enough to buy Obertan, so i wouldn't rule anything out...

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He is not worth more then £5 or £6 million.

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I fancy Bradford tonight..don't know why

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Shola here until 2014, we'll no doubt be in League 1 by then.

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Not exactly ambitious extending Amoebi's contract as l have always thought of him as a very average player.

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The Premier league match between Tottenham and Everton at the weekend has been postponed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14485169.stm

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No scousers were coming down anyway, they said all the best suffs already been nicked :D

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Liverpool set to sign Jose Enrique for around £5 to £6 million.

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Now bring Wayne Bridge in on the cheap and use the rest with whatever else is left in the budget for a striker for christ sake.

Just found out we paid £6.3 to bring him in when he was a nobody, now he has shown his quality, top clubs want him, everyone's price is high this year and he's going for less than we paid.

Absolute muppets.

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That's only because he has one year left on his contract, otherwise you would have got a lot more. That's the problem when players force a move towards the end of their contract, as Arsenal are finding out with Nasri.