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Andrewcrawford23 13-01-2011 09:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35151607)

Well that is shock, i suppose i have to admit iw as wrong abotu the person who said it would be success, well i also now know where toonami block will be going and dragonball kai and old dragonball shows

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151432)
People will do whatever people want to do.

I suppose you would only pay a cancellation fee if you are within a contract period. I think the Sky+ HD box is free with no set up fee if you take the HD pack and join online.
yes but most will be, it jsut shows people are so gullible including virgin that they let one channel be so important, i rather have food on my plate than care about tv, and i have seen plenty exmaples recently people goign nuts even when the nation as whole is in serious debt (thank god me and wife aint)

nialli 13-01-2011 09:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35151610)
but will it be on Virgin TV ?
I doubt it will be a standalone channel - more likely evening/late night programming on Cartoon Network, Cartoon Network Too or Boomerang

Quote:
In the US, cable television network Adult Swim shares channel space with the Cartoon Network, broadcasting every night from 9pm to 6am.

Andrewcrawford23 13-01-2011 09:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35151641)
I doubt it will be a standalone channel - more likely evening/late night programming on Cartoon Network, Cartoon Network Too or Boomerang
From what someone sad last year ofcom wouldnt allow it to be part of the CN so on due to age restriciton

devilincarnate 13-01-2011 09:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
It could just be a part time channel like BBC3.

muppetman11 13-01-2011 11:12
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http://www.rapidtvnews.com/index.php...d-content.html

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http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/...ndication.html

Mobes 13-01-2011 11:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35151644)
From what someone sad last year ofcom wouldnt allow it to be part of the CN so on due to age restriciton
Maybe they could do it by putting a post 9pm pin to access the channel??!!??!?!

muppetman11 13-01-2011 11:47
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http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasti...-four.html?rss

The Tories cuts , Rupert will be happy at the demise of the BBC.

devilincarnate 13-01-2011 11:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35151641)
I doubt it will be a standalone channel - more likely evening/late night programming on Cartoon Network, Cartoon Network Too or Boomerang
They would not be able to do this as if you look at the tv listings of the channels said, they are all 24 hour channels on VM.

windy 13-01-2011 12:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35151698)
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/index.php...d-content.html

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http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/...ndication.html
I hope ive got this wrong but i hope they dont take it off virgin i use it a lot.:(

Pair of Ducks 13-01-2011 12:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35151629)
Well that is shock, i suppose i have to admit iw as wrong abotu the person who said it would be success, well i also now know where toonami block will be going and dragonball kai and old dragonball shows
Haha, I never stopped believing! :D
Toonami will not be back since it's not even in the US, but they will probably have a bit of anime like Bleach and FMA on AS like they do in america

Quote:
Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35151641)
I doubt it will be a standalone channel - more likely evening/late night programming on Cartoon Network, Cartoon Network Too or Boomerang
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35151713)
They would not be able to do this as if you look at the tv listings of the channels said, they are all 24 hour channels on VM.
They'll probably cut the hours since those channels don't have ads overnight

clinteastman 13-01-2011 13:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by windy (Post 35151726)
I hope ive got this wrong but i hope they dont take it off virgin i use it a lot.:(
I'm with you but that's what it sounds like. :(
Well removed from the on demand and left on the red button, it's a bit odd.

mersey70 13-01-2011 14:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35151629)
Well that is shock, i suppose i have to admit iw as wrong abotu the person who said it would be success, well i also now know where toonami block will be going and dragonball kai and old dragonball shows

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yes but most will be, it jsut shows people are so gullible including virgin that they let one channel be so important, i rather have food on my plate than care about tv, and i have seen plenty exmaples recently people goign nuts even when the nation as whole is in serious debt (thank god me and wife aint)
It isn't people being gullible Andrew, if a channel is very important to you, ie you must have it then of course you are going to choose a provider that provides it.

My Dad won't have cable because he loves the Horse and Country channel he gets on Sky, it isn't even a pay channel but he loves it, I doubt he would bother having two STB's so he sticks with Sky. If all of a sudden it moved to VM I fancy he would too.

In this climate If you are going to pay for TV I would guess most people would choose a provider who provides exactly what they want. Just like I do now. My family need catch up from the networks so we have VM, that might change in future.

Andrewcrawford23 13-01-2011 14:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151784)
It isn't people being gullible Andrew, if a channel is important to you of course you are going to choose a provider that provides it.

My Dad won't have cable because he loves the Horse and Country channel he gets on Sky, it isn't even pay channel but he loves it.

In this climate If you are going to pay for TV I would guess most people would choose a provider who provides exactly what they want.
So is goign into debt and help this country potential to a double dip recession really that important for tv i dnt think so, people should be more focus on clearly debt and geting this coutnry back on track before worrying about tv

i am goign far to far off topic so i aint going ot comment on this anymore if oyu do please jsut send me message

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pair of Ducks (Post 35151744)
Haha, I never stopped believing! :D
Toonami will not be back since it's not even in the US, but they will probably have a bit of anime like Bleach and FMA on AS like they do in america



They'll probably cut the hours since those channels don't have ads overnight
Just because america does not have it does not mean turner uk wont revive it, there isa uk broadcaster with rights to dragonball all series and adutl swim doesnt suit it but toonai does i think this will eb block on the adult swim channels sya 9pm to midnight then it adult swim.

toonami uk has no bearing on it americna counterpart

mersey70 13-01-2011 14:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35151785)
So is goign into debt and help this country potential to a double dip recession really that important for tv i dnt think so, people should be more focus on clearly debt and geting this coutnry back on track before worrying about tv

i am goign far to far off topic so i aint going ot comment on this anymore if oyu do please jsut send me message

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Just because america does not have it does not mean turner uk wont revive it, there isa uk broadcaster with rights to dragonball all series and adutl swim doesnt suit it but toonai does i think this will eb block on the adult swim channels sya 9pm to midnight then it adult swim.

toonami uk has no bearing on it americna counterpart
I am sorry but I don't understand why moving from VM to Sky is going to cause debt. I assume you think people should't get Tivo either because of debt too?

You are right we are both way off topic.

windy 13-01-2011 16:22
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My box just froze again and just rebooted now all the old Bravo and challenge channels have gone.

Its a bit of a weird time to do it.Don't they normal do this sort of thing in the early hours.

Not challenge the other one.

DJ-SWITCH 13-01-2011 16:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Channels gone here to

denphone 13-01-2011 17:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Where are the channels to replace them

mattboothers 13-01-2011 17:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35151845)
Where are the channels to replace them
Well:

Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD

and

Sky LIVING it HD

will replace all Bravo and Channel One channels. BUT ONLY ON SKY!

Virgin Media get nothing in return!

In other words Sly Sky planned this to happen after they bought the channels off Virgin Media.

howardmicks 13-01-2011 17:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboothers (Post 35151850)
Well:

Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD

and

Sky LIVING it HD

will replace all Bravo and Channel One channels. BUT ONLY ON SKY!

Virgin Media get nothing in return!
Thats nice of em,But wait a minute we will have tivo!!!!!!! Great not

ahardie 13-01-2011 17:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
There were enough people on here looking for the Sky HD channels. Now they are saying we have got nothing in return? I have doubts whether VM have done the right think selling the channels but lets face it there would have been a long wait for those channels without that sale. that is unfortunately the state of broadcasting and it's regulation in this country.

Hiroki 13-01-2011 18:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Whats wrong with sky keeping some exclusive channels for their own platform?

ahardie 13-01-2011 18:24
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35151899)
Whats wrong with sky keeping some exclusive channels for their own platform?
Absolutely nothing if you have got shares in them. If you are just a customer like me then I'm amazed at you asking the question.

Digital Fanatic 13-01-2011 18:27
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Channel exclusives never benefit the customer, unless you are on that platform.

Hiroki 13-01-2011 18:31
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Im a customer on both platforms and still wouldn't watch the channel but the reason why i asked the question is I see nothing wrong with them having exclusives since they have spend the money setting up the channel and buying the content.......whats stopping virgin from doing the same?

ahardie 13-01-2011 18:37
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This thread isn't the place for this discussion but it's not hard to see why other companies aren't able to do this. They haven't got anything like the money. Virgin Media is in debt. That's why they have sold the channels they already have to give them some cash for investment.
If you can afford to subscribe to two platforms then fair enough but most can't. I did read that Ofcom is maybe looking in to issues that make it easy for customers to swap platforms. i hope channel exclusivity is one of the issues they are looking in to.

Hiroki 13-01-2011 18:53
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Fair enough, thought i'd ask the questions since it seems that most people on this topic think they are entitled to every new channel launch by default haha

ahardie 13-01-2011 18:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35151919)
Fair enough, thought i'd ask the questions since it seems that most people on this topic think they are entitled to every new channel launch by default haha
and who can blame them. :)

spiderplant 13-01-2011 19:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboothers (Post 35151850)
Virgin Media get nothing in return!
You mean apart from the 13 HD channels, Sky Sports Red Button, Sky VOD, access to internet content and £160,000,000 change? It's outrageous! ;)

muppetman11 13-01-2011 19:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35151931)
You mean apart from the 13 HD channels, Sky Sports Red Button, Sky VOD, access to internet content and £160,000,000 change? It's outrageous! ;)
Funny that my V+ doesn't have any Sky OD or Sky Sports red button and how many customers really care about the 160,000,000

stevo1312 13-01-2011 19:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35151912)
This thread isn't the place for this discussion but it's not hard to see why other companies aren't able to do this. They haven't got anything like the money. Virgin Media is in debt. That's why they have sold the channels they already have to give them some cash for investment.
If you can afford to subscribe to two platforms then fair enough but most can't. I did read that Ofcom is maybe looking in to issues that make it easy for customers to swap platforms. i hope channel exclusivity is one of the issues they are looking in to.
Just wondering what they are investing in as tivo was already in the pipeline surely they cant say it was for that.

jtaylor06 13-01-2011 19:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35151937)
and how many customers really care about the 160,000,000
I do as it's going to be reinvested in to the company

Digital Fanatic 13-01-2011 19:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35151937)
Funny that my V+ doesn't have any Sky OD or Sky Sports red button and how many customers really care about the 160,000,000
Sky OD launches soon. Sky Sports Red Button is in the final stages of development.

The 160,000,000 is being invested in your TV service ;)

ahardie 13-01-2011 20:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo1312 (Post 35151961)
Just wondering what they are investing in as tivo was already in the pipeline surely they cant say it was for that.
Whatever you think about VM there is no doubt, for a company heavily in debt, they are investing. The first thing that comes to mind is 100mb broadband upgrades. A few posts above there is something about ondemand upgrades. That will cost them. Tivo is an ongoing investment with no money yet being received from subscribers (apart from a few staff). Red button upgrades. You may think they should spend the money elsewhere but even there detractors wouldn't deny they are investing.

Dave42 13-01-2011 20:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35151974)
Sky OD launches soon. Sky Sports Red Button is in the final stages of development.

The 160,000,000 is being invested in your TV service ;)
be great to get the red button finally hope it not too long

muppetman11 13-01-2011 20:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35151974)
Sky OD launches soon. Sky Sports Red Button is in the final stages of development.

The 160,000,000 is being invested in your TV service ;)
Thanks for that wasn't saying they weren't coming just we haven't seen them yet.

Jameseh 13-01-2011 20:32
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I bet most people complaining didn't even watch Bravo or Channel One, they were both awful channels.

alwaysabear 13-01-2011 20:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35151974)
Sky OD launches soon. Sky Sports Red Button is in the final stages of development.

The 160,000,000 is being invested in your TV service ;)
Thank you for the information it is much appreciated. It would be nice if VM could update its customers directly via email or a press announcement.

windy 13-01-2011 20:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35152004)
Thank you for the information it is much appreciated. It would be nice if VM could update its customers directly via email or a press announcement.
Agree...:clap::clap:

mhatter67 13-01-2011 20:57
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I would love to know the answer to one simple question, excluding HD variants and +1 channels how many extra TV channels has SKY got over VM?

muppetman11 13-01-2011 21:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35152033)
I would love to know the answer to one simple question, excluding HD variants and +1 channels how many extra TV channels has SKY got over VM?
A lot , not all great though.

naeskydish 13-01-2011 21:38
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Jameseh: I bet most people complaining didn't even watch Bravo or Channel One, they were both awful channels.
Can't agree more, selling channels that are a lot of tosh for £160m seems a good deal to me, plus now having access to premium HD channels . I've got plenty of quality viewing on VM and believe I get value for the money. As for future channels and developments, I'll leave that to the powers at VM, they've done a good job so far and I think they know what they're doing.

We'll get SKY Atlantic eventually, it makes commercial sense for SKY to keep it exclusive for a few months.

alwaysabear 13-01-2011 23:09
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Sorry guys Adult swim has not been granted a UK TV broadcast Licence.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...m-licence.html

frogstamper 14-01-2011 00:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35151931)
You mean apart from the 13 HD channels, Sky Sports Red Button, Sky VOD, access to internet content and £160,000,000 change? It's outrageous! ;)
Yeah but what have they done for me today;)

mertle 14-01-2011 00:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35152000)
I bet most people complaining didn't even watch Bravo or Channel One, they were both awful channels.
bit patronising and others who dont care barb figures showed 2m watched these channels, me included thats not bad viewing figures as sky fabled sky one does not do much better.

On top of my head ive watched chuck from the begining, loved the documentaries of the north see trawler rigs, rescue. The Sparticus sands of time. Got into supernatural through vod was currently watching that from the beginning.

Over the period I have watched virgin 1 more than bravo but bit arrogant of you to acuse those who lost there favourites. Maybe next time it will be your turn when sky kick your favourite channel off air.

Tha fact virgin 1 was one of the most watched Digital channels out there and bravo too at was a flagship channel. Both when you take away the terrestrials was possibly top ten listed by order of viewing.

alwaysabear thats very bad news sky can go well you can imagine the rest

loved Adult swim particularly robot chicken.

denphone 14-01-2011 05:42
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When you are paying over 100 pounds a month l expect to have these extra channels and red button.

Henkesghost 14-01-2011 05:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35152144)
When you are paying over 100 pounds a month l expect to have these extra channels and red button.
This. Also expect virgin to tell us what is coming soon, not some random bloke on here who may or may not (as is usually the case) know what's going on

mersey70 14-01-2011 06:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35152145)
This. Also expect virgin to tell us what is coming soon, not some random bloke on here who may or may not (as is usually the case) know what's going on
If anyone has seen Sky's implementation of the red button, and VM's middleware it is obvious that a great deal of work is needed to get it up and running on VM, both by Sky and VM themselves.

It isn't ideal but I have no reason to doubt the staff who have confirmed it's on it way and hopefully sooner rather than later. If it wasn't for them we would be even more in the dark so personally i'm always grateful for their input.

To be honest I personally wouldn't expect VM to go into the technicalities of what is needed to provide the service but Sky themselves did say from the outset of their smear campaign it would not be available until 2011, it's only 14/1/2011. I guess an update wouldn't go a miss though.

However, I would say it is a bit concerning that Sky Arts HD still hasn't arrived though as (I assume) there is nothing technical holding it back but I could be wrong on that.

muppetman11 14-01-2011 07:15
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Also why no Sky News HD or Sky Sports News HD all basic channels I believe.

mersey70 14-01-2011 08:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152169)
Also why no Sky News HD or Sky Sports News HD all basic channels I believe.
Even though VM's press release said that as part of the VMtv sale they were given access to all Sky's basic HD channels (for an incremental fee) it is unclear whether that meant the existing portfolio of channels when the deal was done, or whether they had an option on future channel launches which I would guess they surely must have agreed to, they would be short sighted not to but of course I am guessing. No one seems to be able to clear this up. I have asked VM but just got the usual message about what's coming soon, I didn't really expect them to answer such a business sensitive question which I suppose is fair enough

As far as I know SSN HD wasn't broadcasting when the deal was done although I think Sky News HD was. Nevertheless they only confirmed that Sky Arts HD and Sky One HD was launching together with the sports and movie HD channels. They have delivered all of these except Sky Arts HD.

I suppose we will only find out if, and when channels launch. Given their pricing structure, which we all benefit from I am one of the camp that thinks they cant possibly keep adding basic HD channels at no extra cost, it dosen't add up when Sky are raking in £300 million in HD subs alone although I accept they have many more HD customers although interestingly I think VM have a comparable percentage overall.

I would welcome a statement on the reason (of which there are almost certainly many) why certain channels are not available if only to put a stop to us blaming one party or another, I doubt it will happen though.

Anyway I have asked the question again so I will let you know what they say.

muppetman11 14-01-2011 09:23
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I agree with you re the pricing structure but I wish they would add channels and have a HD+ pack for an extra fee of say £5.00 , this way it gives people who want the extras a chance to have them and those who don't still get free HD.

clinteastman 14-01-2011 09:30
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Has this thread been repurposed as a "what's on Sky" thread?

Personally given the choice between Bravo/Channel One (channels I can't remember the last time I watched) and a lump sum for investment in the network/Sky OD I would go for the latter every time.

Also none premium channel are not going to stay exclusive for long because that is basically giving away your advertising dollars which no company can realistically do, It's a business after all.

ahardie 14-01-2011 09:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152226)
I agree with you re the pricing structure but I wish they would add channels and have a HD+ pack for an extra fee of say £5.00 , this way it gives people who want the extras a chance to have them and those who don't still get free HD.
I respect your opinion muppetman11 and accept that would be better for you but I would rather they didn't start charging extra for HD. I would rather we had the most popular HD channels in the xl package at no extra charge. I would expect that VM use feedback from user surveys and feedback from the retentions dept. to decide what most customers want. After all if customers are leaving because a channel isn't in their package they would have to add it. It also puts clear blue water between VM and Sky and on an unrelated matter probably brings forward the day when Sky drop the charge as they will also be sitting up and taking notice of customer surveys.
I agree with Mersey70 about Sky Arts HD. As they have announced that they had an agreement in place it should be added ASAP.

Moonblade 14-01-2011 10:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35152197)
Even though VM's press release said that as part of the VMtv sale they were given access to all Sky's basic HD channels (for an incremental fee) it is unclear whether that meant the existing portfolio of channels when the deal was done, or whether they had an option on future channel launches which I would guess they surely must have agreed to, they would be short sighted not to but of course I am guessing. No one seems to be able to clear this up. I have asked VM but just got the usual message about what's coming soon, I didn't really expect them to answer such a business sensitive question which I suppose is fair enough

As far as I know SSN HD wasn't broadcasting when the deal was done although I think Sky News HD was. Nevertheless they only confirmed that Sky Arts HD and Sky One HD was launching together with the sports and movie HD channels. They have delivered all of these except Sky Arts HD.

I suppose we will only find out if, and when channels launch. Given their pricing structure, which we all benefit from I am one of the camp that thinks they cant possibly keep adding basic HD channels at no extra cost, it dosen't add up when Sky are raking in £300 million in HD subs alone although I accept they have many more HD customers although interestingly I think VM have a comparable percentage overall.

I would welcome a statement on the reason (of which there are almost certainly many) why certain channels are not available if only to put a stop to us blaming one party or another, I doubt it will happen though.

Anyway I have asked the question again so I will let you know what they say.
Well said

DaMac 14-01-2011 10:28
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Ive been a follower of this thread for about 4 months now and i feel i need to have my say... Although Virgin media pipe tv into my house, i am a sky premium customer, i pay sky although not directly for my Sky Sports HD, My Sky Movies HD, i want my sky sports red button services, and not just on HD 1 & 2, i want them on champions league nights on Sports 4 so i can choose what match i want to watch, i am paying just as much for sports and movies as someone who as a sky box, this is unfair competition, ofcom who whoever it is, need to start throwing the book at sky.. Also indirectly i am a sky basics channel subscriber, i was promised Sky Arts in HD for a small extra sub..i am paying this sub but not getting the channels, there are loads of stuff i do want to watch on sky arts in hd. Granted some of the older stuff on there won't entirly benefit from this, but alot of the newer stuff is recorded at higher than sd broadcast quality and add dolby digital and i would be a happy bunny. Do i wany Sky Sports news in HD, Not bothered because if ever a channel didn't warrant a HD feed its Sky Sports News, but if there is any reason i should have it - ie previous agreements, ofcom rulings or unfair competition then i want it. Sky get a lot of money from me every month, its not my fault they can't offer me a decent broadband service, but still i give them loads of money, i want what i am due.

muppetman11 14-01-2011 10:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35152243)
I respect your opinion muppetman11 and accept that would be better for you but I would rather they didn't start charging extra for HD. I would rather we had the most popular HD channels in the xl package at no extra charge. I would expect that VM use feedback from user surveys and feedback from the retentions dept. to decide what most customers want. After all if customers are leaving because a channel isn't in their package they would have to add it. It also puts clear blue water between VM and Sky and on an unrelated matter probably brings forward the day when Sky drop the charge as they will also be sitting up and taking notice of customer surveys.
I agree with Mersey70 about Sky Arts HD. As they have announced that they had an agreement in place it should be added ASAP.
But like Mersey70 states how long can Virgin Media sustain adding more HD and including it in the XL , I would rather see VM grow the free HD but add a HD+ pack for around £5.00 and add channels quicker.

Digital Fanatic 14-01-2011 11:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35152267)
Ive been a follower of this thread for about 4 months now and i feel i need to have my say... Although Virgin media pipe tv into my house, i am a sky premium customer, i pay sky although not directly for my Sky Sports HD, My Sky Movies HD, i want my sky sports red button services, and not just on HD 1 & 2, i want them on champions league nights on Sports 4 so i can choose what match i want to watch, i am paying just as much for sports and movies as someone who as a sky box, this is unfair competition, ofcom who whoever it is, need to start throwing the book at sky.. Also indirectly i am a sky basics channel subscriber, i was promised Sky Arts in HD for a small extra sub..i am paying this sub but not getting the channels, there are loads of stuff i do want to watch on sky arts in hd. Granted some of the older stuff on there won't entirly benefit from this, but alot of the newer stuff is recorded at higher than sd broadcast quality and add dolby digital and i would be a happy bunny. Do i wany Sky Sports news in HD, Not bothered because if ever a channel didn't warrant a HD feed its Sky Sports News, but if there is any reason i should have it - ie previous agreements, ofcom rulings or unfair competition then i want it. Sky get a lot of money from me every month, its not my fault they can't offer me a decent broadband service, but still i give them loads of money, i want what i am due.
totally agree on your points there, but don't forget Sky Arts will be part of the XL pack when it launches, not the Sky £7 premium charge.

muppetman11 14-01-2011 12:38
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http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...age-800340204/

Pair of Ducks 14-01-2011 14:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35152093)
Sorry guys Adult swim has not been granted a UK TV broadcast Licence.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...m-licence.html
They're saying it's a renewal of a mobile broadcasting license. But I'm not buying it since it's a new license and I'm not sure that's the same section for mobile broadcasting

muppetman11 14-01-2011 14:51
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Murdoch after keeping it in the family, another purchase to strengthen News Corp

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...rgan-news-corp

Ben B 14-01-2011 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35152144)
When you are paying over 100 pounds a month l expect to have these extra channels and red button.
Maybe you should start expecting less then you'll be delighted when something extra comes along

Hiroki 14-01-2011 15:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35151920)
and who can blame them. :)
Me :p: it's that false sense of entitlement that keeps making them disappointed and leads to them raging in topics like this haha

devilincarnate 14-01-2011 16:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pair of Ducks (Post 35152373)
They're saying it's a renewal of a mobile broadcasting license. But I'm not buying it since it's a new license and I'm not sure that's the same section for mobile broadcasting
:confused: After reading this on WIKIPEDIA ( 99% with pinch of salt ) not sure if they have had to renew the license or it is a new broadcast license:

United Kingdom and Ireland
Launched on July 8, 2006, the UK network Bravo used to air an Adult Swim block nightly, generally starting at midnight each night. The UK's Bravo channel is owned by Virgin Media Television, although in other parts of the world Adult Swim is a block on Time Warner-owned Cartoon Network. Shows that were previously a part of the UK's Adult Swim block are Robot Chicken, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sealab 2021, The Brak Show, Tom Goes to the Mayor, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, The Venture Bros., Moral Orel, and Metalocalypse,[42] Non-Williams Street shows on the block include Stripperella and Kid Notorious. The first "action" series was the anime Afro Samurai, which aired on May 4, 2007 alongside a new UK animated show Modern Toss. On July 7, 2008, Adult Swim ceased to broadcast on Bravo, and its future remains uncertain.[43]

The UK Adult Swim website, like its American counterpart, offers free access to full episodes of shows including Squidbillies, Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law, Tom Goes to the Mayor, Minoriteam, Stroker and Hoop, Moral Orel, 12 oz. Mouse, Perfect Hair Forever, Metalocalypse, and Frisky Dingo. Unlike Adult Swim on Bravo UK, the website service is owned by Time Warner. Revolver Entertainment recently began distributing original Adult Swim series on DVD in the UK and Ireland.[44]

FX (UK) aired Robot Chicken, Titan Maximum, Venture Brothers and "Metalocalypse". These shows were advertised with [adult swim] branding. They began airing on 5 June 2010 in conjunction with their regular schedule and ended on 27 November 2010.

Confused so am i :confused::confused::confused:

DaMac 14-01-2011 16:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35152317)
totally agree on your points there, but don't forget Sky Arts will be part of the XL pack when it launches, not the Sky £7 premium charge.
Either way if i subscribe to virgin xl, which i do, sky still get money from me via virgin for whatever percentage of their channels are included in the xl tv pack, i aint watching these channels for free, i am subscribing to them and want them in the same quality as anybody else who pays sky to watch them either directly or indirectly. If this means i need to pay another£3 a month then so be it, but i am not being given the option. Somebody needs to pull their finger out like i said before, whether it be virgin media, ofcom or the competion comission.

denphone 14-01-2011 16:58
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I totally agree with you.

muppetman11 14-01-2011 17:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35152442)
Either way if i subscribe to virgin xl, which i do, sky still get money from me via virgin for whatever percentage of their channels are included in the xl tv pack, i aint watching these channels for free, i am subscribing to them and want them in the same quality as anybody else who pays sky to watch them either directly or indirectly. If this means i need to pay another£3 a month then so be it, but i am not being given the option. Somebody needs to pull their finger out like i said before, whether it be virgin media, ofcom or the competion comission.
Read my previous post re HD+pack

mersey70 14-01-2011 17:58
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UPDATE TO MY EARLIER POST RE SKY BASICS

This is the interesting (albeit brief) reply I got from the CEO's office earlier today. In case you didn't read my post I asked when VM said they have access to all Sky's basic HD channels does that mean the channels that were broadcasting at the time of the deal, or did it include future channel launches:-


Hi, the details are confidential I'm sorry. We are in negotiations over Atlantic though.


Neil Berkett | Chief Executive Officer
Virgin Media
D: +44 1256 754554


I read that as they do indeed have access to all the basic HD channels, if they can negotiate a price. Then again I could be totally wrong.

Previously they have just said it is confidential.

Pair of Ducks 14-01-2011 18:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35152440)
:confused: After reading this on WIKIPEDIA ( 99% with pinch of salt ) not sure if they have had to renew the license or it is a new broadcast license:

United Kingdom and Ireland
Launched on July 8, 2006, the UK network Bravo used to air an Adult Swim block nightly, generally starting at midnight each night. The UK's Bravo channel is owned by Virgin Media Television, although in other parts of the world Adult Swim is a block on Time Warner-owned Cartoon Network. Shows that were previously a part of the UK's Adult Swim block are Robot Chicken, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sealab 2021, The Brak Show, Tom Goes to the Mayor, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, The Venture Bros., Moral Orel, and Metalocalypse,[42] Non-Williams Street shows on the block include Stripperella and Kid Notorious. The first "action" series was the anime Afro Samurai, which aired on May 4, 2007 alongside a new UK animated show Modern Toss. On July 7, 2008, Adult Swim ceased to broadcast on Bravo, and its future remains uncertain.[43]

The UK Adult Swim website, like its American counterpart, offers free access to full episodes of shows including Squidbillies, Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law, Tom Goes to the Mayor, Minoriteam, Stroker and Hoop, Moral Orel, 12 oz. Mouse, Perfect Hair Forever, Metalocalypse, and Frisky Dingo. Unlike Adult Swim on Bravo UK, the website service is owned by Time Warner. Revolver Entertainment recently began distributing original Adult Swim series on DVD in the UK and Ireland.[44]

FX (UK) aired Robot Chicken, Titan Maximum, Venture Brothers and "Metalocalypse". These shows were advertised with [adult swim] branding. They began airing on 5 June 2010 in conjunction with their regular schedule and ended on 27 November 2010.

Confused so am i :confused::confused::confused:
Basically, They're saying it's a renewal of the Sky Mobile channel they have, but I believe it's a license for a new TV channel

muppetman11 14-01-2011 18:32
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Thanks for that Mersey70, like I always say Sky make negotiations difficult .

mersey70 14-01-2011 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152600)
Thanks for that Mersey70, like I always say Sky make negotiations difficult .
I am sure they do, but VM's pricing structure cannot help either even if we all like it.

I guess we cannot have it both ways, channels like Atlantic HD are expensive and are likely to attract a premium.

ahardie 14-01-2011 18:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152600)
Thanks for that Mersey70, like I always say Sky make negotiations difficult .
VM had to sell there tv platform to Sky to get access to Sky 1 HD. You can't get much more difficult than that.

mersey70 14-01-2011 19:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35152616)
VM had to sell there tv platform to Sky to get access to Sky 1 HD. You can't get much more difficult than that.
That's what I say when people ask the question were they right to sell VMtv, would we really have 12 Sky HD channels now, with more to come and red button?

I doubt it myself, I also think they would have sold VMtv to someone else anyway so I think it was a good deal.

muppetman11 14-01-2011 19:09
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What I don't want VM to do is pay stupid money for Sky Atlantic at the risk of getting no more HD channels would much sooner have say ESPNA HD , Disney XD HD , Nat Geo Wild HD than one Sky channel.

mersey70 14-01-2011 19:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152625)
What I don't want VM to do is pay stupid money for Sky Atlantic at the risk of getting no more HD channels would much sooner have say ESPNA HD , Disney XD HD , Nat Geo Wild HD than one Sky channel.
I doubt they would, or indeed could.

All those channels would of course be nice but they have to be affordable and fit in with their pricing structure.

muppetman11 14-01-2011 19:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35152626)
I doubt they would, or indeed could.

All those channels would of course be nice but they have to be affordable and fit in with their pricing structure.
Virgin need to look at their HD Genres and see what's lacking Kids defo is with no HD channels and Documentary only has two.

---------- Post added at 19:41 ---------- Previous post was at 19:16 ----------

I'm sorry if some people on here don't like this but it needs to be said.

The main gripes on this forum are

1. Virgin take ages to launch channels.
2. Virgin are way behind Sky on HD channels.
3. TIVO is way overpriced and should be cheaper.

My answers to these are as follows

1. With the HD free on XL policy Virgin negotiations take longer as they strive to get the cheapest price for you the customer.

2. The main reason Sky have more HD content is the fact half of the content is there own and the rest they recoup in the £10.25 a month HD charge. The facts are with VM XL you pay £23.50 and get ESPN , Sky charge £24.00 for 6 mix and £10.25 if you want HD pack and ESPN is a further £12.00 if you don't have Sky Sports.

3. People say TIVO is expensive at launch but the truth is the box has a 1 TB HDD and is new technology , don't forget the Sky HD 1 TB box is £299 I believe. People will say you can keep the Sky box which is a valid point but with no Sky sub this just becomes an expensive freesar receiver.

windy 14-01-2011 21:21
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My channel no,s have gone from 332-333 ???:erm:

braysoj1 14-01-2011 22:33
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same here

Paulie 14-01-2011 23:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152627)
3. People say TIVO is expensive at launch but the truth is the box has a 1 TB HDD and is new technology , don't forget the Sky HD 1 TB box is £299 I believe. People will say you can keep the Sky box which is a valid point but with no Sky sub this just becomes an expensive freesar receiver.

Totally agree with you on this one. I had one of the first hd sky boxes (for the world cup) when they came out, and that was £299. It`s just the premium we pay to be the first ones to play with the new kit. Same as anything really. The price will drop, albeit slowly I reckon.

winkle 15-01-2011 00:30
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A lot will depend on how long & how much you pay Virgin

Boxes will range from £49-£149

Monthly charge of £3 (expect XL (with premiums) & vip customers)

Hiroki 15-01-2011 00:58
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I got my new Sky HD box for free with a 12month contract which was half price and then at the end of that I got an extra 6 months half price so I guess it all depends on what deal you can get with sky. As for tivo it really needs to be cheaper.

mersey70 15-01-2011 07:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35152795)
I got my new Sky HD box for free with a 12month contract which was half price and then at the end of that I got an extra 6 months half price so I guess it all depends on what deal you can get with sky. As for tivo it really needs to be cheaper.
Would that be the standard Sky+HD box you have though?. The 1TB box currently costs £279 including set up. The standard box is indeed free with free set up with the HD pack and if ordered online.

I don't think the advertised prices of Tivo or Sky's 1TB box are too bad at all for the certain group of customers they are aimed at, I doubt either will appeal just yet to the average subscriber but I doubt that's who they are aimed at anyway.

muppetman11 15-01-2011 08:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35152835)
Would that be the standard Sky+HD box you have though?. The 1TB box currently costs £279 including set up. The standard box is indeed free with free set up with the HD pack and if ordered online.

I don't think the advertised prices of Tivo or Sky's 1TB box are too bad at all for the certain group of customers they are aimed at, I doubt either will appeal just yet to the average subscriber but I doubt that's who they are aimed at anyway.
Neil Berkett announced that Virgin would launch TIVO boxes with smaller HDD at a later date , the standard Sky HD box has a 320 gb HDD with half partitioned for Anytime I think. Sky boxes record.more due to Mpeg 4 compression which I believe Virgin Will switch to at some point.

mersey70 15-01-2011 09:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152851)
Neil Berkett announced that Virgin would launch TIVO boxes with smaller HDD at a later date , the standard Sky HD box has a 320 gb HDD with half partitioned for Anytime I think. Sky boxes record.more due to Mpeg 4 compression which I believe Virgin Will switch to at some point.
Virtually all new Sky+ HD boxes actually have 500GB HDD with 250GB reserved for personal use. In the unlikely event you get a non Amstrad model it will have (as you quite rightly say) 320GB with half reserved for personal use but this is very rare now.

I don't understand how adding 1TB to a box which is functionally identical to the standard box can add such a big cost to it although compared to high street models it still offers good value, as Tivo does.

muppetman11 15-01-2011 10:06
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My main reason for taking TIVO from launch is 1TB HDD ( I record a lot of American sport and the V+HD just doesn't cut it) , another reason is the advanced search as VM don't list stuff great now on the current OD menus. I will enjoy the search an actor feature as me and the Mrs always argue what somebody's been in before.

mersey70 15-01-2011 10:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152879)
My main reason for taking TIVO from launch is 1TB HDD ( I record a lot of American sport and the V+HD just doesn't cut it) , another reason is the advanced search as VM don't list stuff great now on the current OD menus. I will enjoy the search an actor feature as me and the Mrs always argue what somebody's been in before.
You probably know this anyway but you can search on an actor's name with V+ and even a V Box (assuming the name appears in the synopsis), obviously Tivo will have far more detailed search capabilities though.

ahardie 15-01-2011 10:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152879)
My main reason for taking TIVO from launch is 1TB HDD ( I record a lot of American sport and the V+HD just doesn't cut it) , another reason is the advanced search as VM don't list stuff great now on the current OD menus. I will enjoy the search an actor feature as me and the Mrs always argue what somebody's been in before.
Yes it is all of those things and hopefully more that make it worth the price to me. The Itb drive will be great but I wouldn't pay out just for that.

---------- Post added at 10:26 ---------- Previous post was at 10:15 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35152880)
You probably know this anyway but you can search on an actor's name with V+ and even a V Box (assuming the name appears in the synopsis), obviously Tivo will have far more detailed search capabilities though.
Does it tell Mr & Mrs Muppetman what the actors have been in before though? I know some will say, well |I can do that on my computer already but for one thing not everybody has ready access to a computer from their armchair. And they have got to fire up their computer bring up google look through the search results. It is being able to do it all frome one box. Like I say it is the complete package that has me interested not any one thing. I can watch youtube for instance on my laptop or even my ipod touch but it's not the ame as watching things on my tv with my family.

mersey70 15-01-2011 10:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35152882)
Yes it is all of those things and hopefully more that make it worth the price to me. The Itb drive will be great but I wouldn't pay out just for that.

---------- Post added at 10:26 ---------- Previous post was at 10:15 ----------



Does it tell Mr & Mrs Muppetman what the actors have been in before though? I know some will say, well |I can do that on my computer already but for one thing not everybody has ready access to a computer from their armchair. And they have got to fire up their computer bring up google look through the search results. It is being able to do it all frome one box. Like I say it is the complete package that has me interested not any one thing. I can watch youtube for instance on my laptop or even my ipod touch but it's not the ame as watching things on my tv with my family.
All I politely said is V+ can search on an actors name, just in case he wasn't aware of the feature, sorry.

muppetman11 15-01-2011 10:48
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Two other massive things for me are Recomendations and remote record.

---------- Post added at 10:48 ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 ----------

Got to say I like the slick looking HD interface as well.

mersey70 15-01-2011 10:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152894)
Two other massive things for me are Recomendations and remote record.

---------- Post added at 10:48 ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 ----------

Got to say I like the slick looking HD interface as well.
Remote record is a great feature, I hope they don't limit it to just iphones but even if they do you can set it from the online TV guide which is actually up and running now I believe.

Chad 15-01-2011 11:11
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For me personally TIVO needs to do more, way more than it's going to do from launch to justify £199.99.

1TB HDD is a massive selling point however a 1TB HDD retails from as little as £44.99 if you shop around. I'm not seeing enough from the wonder box that is TIVO to justify the other £155.00 plus an ongoing monthly subscription.

It's a box which makes choosing what you watch on TV easier. Watching TV is the easiest and laziest thing that you can do. This is really just a coach potatoes toy aimed at people who find it difficult to read TV listings or too difficult to decide what they want to watch.

Again for me personally internet through my TV is not really a big selling point. I got bored of that ages ago via my games console. I've got a laptop and 50mb wireless in my house. If I need to go on the internet when watching TV I can already do that without TIVO.

I think it's all just a gimmick. What else do Virgin have in the pipeline for 2011, I hope they don't have all their eggs in the TIVO basket. In this current financial climate having a TV subscription via Virgin or SKY is a luxury item. At £199.99 per box plus further monthly costs I firmly believe this will be a flop until the box comes down to a more affordale price. I beleive the take up for SKY's Premium HD channels at £7.00 per month is still slow. If Virgin can't shift something that customers really wanted at £7.00 per month, TIVO has no chance.

I'm still all ears if someone wants to post what they beleive will change my mind about TIVO, the big selling point that I'm missing that will make customers think "WOW I really need that service".

Sorry if I've went off topic here, but this thread is hardly on topic these days anyway:p:

muppetman11 15-01-2011 11:21
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Yes but Chad the box contains a lot more than just a HDD. You will always pay for new tech , I thought it was rumoured to be 189 all in to existing customers.

mersey70 15-01-2011 11:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35152904)
For me personally TIVO needs to do more, way more than it's going to do from launch to justify £199.99.

1TB HDD is a massive selling point however a 1TB HDD retails from as little as £44.99 if you shop around. I'm not seeing enough from the wonder box that is TIVO to justify the other £155.00 plus an ongoing monthly subscription.

It's a box which makes choosing what you watch on TV easier. Watching TV is the easiest and laziest thing that you can do. This is really just a coach potatoes toy aimed at people who find it difficult to read TV listings or too difficult to decide what they want to watch.

Again for me personally internet through my TV is not really a big selling point. I got bored of that ages ago via my games console. I've got a laptop and 50mb wireless in my house. If I need to go on the internet when watching TV I can already do that without TIVO.

I think it's all just a gimmick. What else do Virgin have in the pipeline for 2011, I hope they don't have all their eggs in the TIVO basket. In this current financial climate having a TV subscription via Virgin or SKY is a luxury item. At £199.99 per box plus further monthly costs I firmly believe this will be a flop until the box comes down to a more affordale price. I beleive the take up for SKY's Premium HD channels at £7.00 per month is still slow. If Virgin can't shift something that customers really wanted at £7.00 per month, TIVO has no chance.

I'm still all ears if someone wants to post what they beleive will change my mind about TIVO, the big selling point that I'm missing that will make customers think "WOW I really need that service".

Sorry if I've went off topic here, but this thread is hardly on topic these days anyway:p:
I think that you maybe should look at the features we know about and convince yourself whether it is something you really want or indeed need, if it isnt then stick with your existing kit for now.

Other people will be looking at it from their own point of view so when it launches maybe have a good look at users comments and see if anything resonates with you. Maybe then you will realise it's a service you need, maybe not.

Once a user guide or something similar becomes public it might inspire you more, it might inspire me too but a lot of talk is still speculation so until it's out we dont really know all of what is on offer anyway.

I had better shut up, off topic.

denphone 15-01-2011 11:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35152545)
UPDATE TO MY EARLIER POST RE SKY BASICS

This is the interesting (albeit brief) reply I got from the CEO's office earlier today. In case you didn't read my post I asked when VM said they have access to all Sky's basic HD channels does that mean the channels that were broadcasting at the time of the deal, or did it include future channel launches:-


Hi, the details are confidential I'm sorry. We are in negotiations over Atlantic though.


Neil Berkett | Chief Executive Officer
Virgin Media
D: +44 1256 754554


I read that as they do indeed have access to all the basic HD channels, if they can negotiate a price. Then again I could be totally wrong.

Previously they have just said it is confidential.
A typical answer from Neil Berkett very vague and not answering the question.

muppetman11 15-01-2011 11:51
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Well put Mersey70 I'm getting it for the reasons I stated , if u don't need all the features don't get it or wait until its at a price your happy to pay.

mersey70 15-01-2011 11:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35152914)
A typical answer from Neil Berkett very vague and not answering the question.
In fairness my question could be considered business sensitive (in fact it clearly was), personally I was pleased he confirmed they were in negotiations but I sort of understand what you mean.

I'm happy to trust him and wait and see what happens but to be honest I asked the question more to clear up a query with the press statement which of course he didn't answer, I didn't expect him to really. I am not too fussed about Atlantic personally even though I am sure there will be something of interest on it to watch even for someone like me who rarely watches US programming.

muppetman11 15-01-2011 13:09
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To be fair he isn't going to reveal to much by email after all it's commercially sensitive information.

---------- Post added at 13:09 ---------- Previous post was at 12:55 ----------

Could this help Virgin extend their TV service ?

http://www.broadbandchoice.co.uk/new...ans-800343539/

Andrewcrawford23 15-01-2011 13:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35152941)
To be fair he isn't going to reveal to much by email after all it's commercially sensitive information.

---------- Post added at 13:09 ---------- Previous post was at 12:55 ----------

Could this help Virgin extend their TV service ?

http://www.broadbandchoice.co.uk/new...ans-800343539/
yes but there goign to use it more toe extend braoadband

muppetman11 15-01-2011 13:17
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Could this be a sign that ESPN 2 could be in the pipeline

http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasti...ghts-deal.html

denphone 15-01-2011 16:02
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What has happened to Espn2, Espn news,Espn on demand and Espn red button this was supposed to be coming in January yet another false rumour l suspect.

muppetman11 15-01-2011 16:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35153044)
What has happened to Espn2, Espn news,Espn on demand and Espn red button this was supposed to be coming in January yet another false rumour l suspect.
It's been mentioned by ESPN themselves in a fans forum.

Ben B 15-01-2011 16:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35153044)
What has happened to Espn2, Espn news,Espn on demand and Espn red button this was supposed to be coming in January yet another false rumour l suspect.
Such a pessimist


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