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atlas15 24-01-2011 19:08

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Not bothered.

Felim_Doyle 24-01-2011 19:45

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by atlas15 (Post 35158045)
Not bothered.

You may need to go to post #1 Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media or maybe just check the top of this page to cast your vote in the poll.

I've already voted so I can't see the poll now, just the results to date.

gerdav 24-01-2011 23:02

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
There will be a SD version, Sky are changing their EPG from the 1st February all the HD channels bar BBC1, ITV1, CH4 & 5 and those with no SD simulcast are swapping positions, so Sky Atlantic will be 108 on a HD box with a active HD sub, and without a active HD sub or a SD box 108 will be Sky Atlantic SD.

Coax 25-01-2011 15:51

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
In the short term Sky Atlantic is a loss to us, but AV equipment whether it be TV’s, game consoles, Blue-ray players or the like can provide VOD of some description. Traditional channels like Sky Atlantic will be replace by subscription services from LoveFilms, Google TV, Apple iStore etc and even directly from the producers like Warner TV. Samsung is making exclusive deals for it's AV equipment along with Sony to name two for content to be delivered directly to their products, Virginmedia can’t compete with the likes of these, and all they can provide is the mechanism to deliver the content to these products. Hence the ever increasing broadband speeds. TiVo is their way of linking into some of these potential VOD streams, TV will go global via VOD. You may see TiVo providing VOD directly and not via Virginmedia VOD just using the Virginmedia infrastructure. I think we need watch this space along with Offcom and sit tight!

These are my thoughtS

bethsynboddoc 25-01-2011 17:12

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
My feeling is that since sky were compelled to share sky 1 2 3 with virgin, they may well start to migrate popular shows previously viewed on sky 1 2 3 and Channel one to Sky Atlantic in order to gain a market advantage over virgin again, perhaps forcing another legal exchange. Maybe they wont be as devious as this ??

Felim_Doyle 25-01-2011 20:14

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coax (Post 35158592)
In the short term Sky Atlantic is a loss to us, but AV equipment whether it be TV’s, game consoles, Blue-ray players or the like can provide VOD of some description. Traditional channels like Sky Atlantic will be replace by subscription services from LoveFilms, Google TV, Apple iStore etc and even directly from the producers like Warner TV. Samsung is making exclusive deals for it's AV equipment along with Sony to name two for content to be delivered directly to their products, Virginmedia can’t compete with the likes of these, and all they can provide is the mechanism to deliver the content to these products. Hence the ever increasing broadband speeds. TiVo is their way of linking into some of these potential VOD streams, TV will go global via VOD. You may see TiVo providing VOD directly and not via Virginmedia VOD just using the Virginmedia infrastructure. I think we need watch this space along with Offcom and sit tight!

These are my thoughtS

I'm not sure I even understand that, especially the highlighted bit. :confused:

Seek help! These are my thoughts! :) Just kidding! :)

What does TV going global mean? :erm:
  • I don't want globalisation protesters hammering on my door.
  • I want a flat-screen TV not a globe-shaped one.

What kind of deals are Samsung and Sony making to have content exclusively available on one of their branded TVs or Blu-ray players? :confused:
  • I want my TV to show what I want not what Samsung/Sony send to it.
  • When I put a Blu-ray disc or DVD in my player I expect it to play what it says on the box.


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Originally Posted by bethsynboddoc (Post 35158663)
My feeling is that since sky were compelled to share sky 1 2 3 with virgin, they may well start to migrate popular shows previously viewed on sky 1 2 3 and Channel one to Sky Atlantic in order to gain a market advantage over virgin again, perhaps forcing another legal exchange. Maybe they wont be as devious as this ??

Lately Sky 2 appears to have become more-or-less a repeats channel for Sky 1. At the end of February I believe that Sky 3 will relaunch as Pick TV. So, there's little-or-no original content on Sky 2 and Pick TV sound like it might be a selection of programmes from the other Sky channels. In any case, Sky 3 could effectively disappear from VM altogether depending on whether it ends up as just a re-brand or a shut-down and start-up again.

Coax 26-01-2011 09:36

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
TV going Global!!

I mean you can decide who provides the content, direct from USA or China it's your choice and fringe channels like SKY Atlantic will start to disappear. It will be free through targeted advertising or subscription or pay as you watch. That’s the potential TiVo and internet enabled devices. How this will be regulated I don’t know we have to see what Offcom will do.

Taf 26-01-2011 10:18

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I've just seen the program listings for Atlantic's first week... now I'm TOTALLY not bothered that VM won't be showing it.

Sasha222 26-01-2011 19:00

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
What programmes are they going to show Taf? Do you have a link availabe of them please if not It's ok? Just want to see what the line up is

Felim_Doyle 26-01-2011 20:23

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coax (Post 35159034)
TV going Global!!

I mean you can decide who provides the content, direct from USA or China it's your choice and fringe channels like SKY Atlantic will start to disappear. It will be free through targeted advertising or subscription or pay as you watch. That’s the potential TiVo and internet enabled devices. How this will be regulated I don’t know we have to see what Offcom will do.

I'd imagine that's a very long way off though.

mersey70 26-01-2011 20:49

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159304)
What programmes are they going to show Taf? Do you have a link availabe of them please if not It's ok? Just want to see what the line up is

There you go.

It isn't content that appeals to me (i'm not being baised, not my truck at all) but I would imagine it has a fair bit to catch a lot of people's imagination especially when the brand new stuff begins.

It's interesting they have confirmed they are scheduling stuff like Mad Men in primetime as opposed to the BBC's scheduling which no doubt contributed to lower viewing figures.

http://data.skyprogrammeinformation....388&chan=SATS#

Sasha222 26-01-2011 20:54

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159393)
There you go.

It isn't content that appeals to me (i'm not being baised, not my truck at all) but I would imagine it has a fair bit to catch a lot of people's imagination especially when the brand new stuff begins.

It's interesting they have confirmed they are scheduling stuff like Mad Men in primetime as opposed to the BBC's scheduling which no doubt contributed to lower viewing figures.

http://data.skyprogrammeinformation....388&chan=SATS#

Thanks so much for the link. Not much on that to get excited about really. :erm:

mersey70 26-01-2011 20:57

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159394)
Thanks so much for the link. Not much on that to get excited about really. :erm:

It's been well reported they are staggering content over the coming months which is quite common but I would guess that's also probably to kick competitors when they choose to launch something new or an event like Britain's Got Talent starts on ITV.

They all do this, even Auntie!

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:03

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Theres loads of Star Trek and other Si_Fi stuff there so wouldn't be bothered with that stuff :(

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:07

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159399)
Theres loads of Star Trek and other Si_Fi stuff there so wouldn't be bothered with that stuff :(

Nor me either but we know even though a lot has been shown before Sci Fi is still very popular, apart from Space 1999 because I loved it as a kid Sci Fi turn's me off. I can't beleive Sky are going to show stupid US wrestling on Challenge, my mother will be turning in her grave as she loved that channel!!

To me there seems some odd scheduling going on over their channels but i'm sure they know what they're doing, quite obviously they do. Richard and Andy will be able to catch it all now anyway, bless!

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:10

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Ya but with a with them being popular you would think they would keep it to one station or two and keep it away from the one there going to launch and cater for people that are not into all the Si_fi

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:17

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159403)
Ya but with a with them being popular you would think they would keep it to one station or two and keep it away from the one there going to launch and cater for people that are not into all the Si_fi

Who knows what their thinking is. I would imagine things will be tried out but one thing is for sure, Sky won't hesitate to change things if they don't work. There's no chance of that

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:21

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Ya I know. Cant believe that there making so much fuss about it and a load of rubbish they are going to be shown https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/01/31.gif

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:25

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159411)
Ya I know. Cant believe that there making so much fuss about it and a load of rubbish they are going to be shown https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/01/31.gif

There is a lot of new premium content on it just not all at launch, but little really appeals to me though only because i'm not a huge fan of US TV on any channel, i'm rather happy US shows like Mad Men are coming off the BBC so long as its replaced with something decent from here.

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:28

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Never even watched Mad men and dont even know what Its about to be honest. Is it a comedy? Some american shows I dont mind

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:31

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159418)
Never even watched Mad men and dont even know what Its about to be honest. Is it a comedy? Some american shows I dont mind

It's a drama set in (i think) the 60's about an advertising agency, by all accounts it's very good but being an import was hid away in a very late slot on BBC2 after Newsnight so only had a relatively small audience, Sky will be giving it much higher prominence though.

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:33

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Oh right. Even that dont seem to be interesting so no wonder they hid it :rolleyes:

OLD BOY 26-01-2011 21:34

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Well, I am miffed, big time. None of the channels we have provide a schedule of good programmes that I wish to watch for any one evening , but when you can pick out individual series from the full range of channels, this makes for a good selection of programmes for recordings. Sky Atlantic has a few programmes worth selecting for that purpose, such as Mad Men and Boardwalk Empire and I want access to them.

I don't know what is possible through the TIVO boxes. Can VM do deals directly with various studios and film suppliers such as Lovefilm to get good programmes to show through video on demand? If so, the picture may not be so bleak, but I am seriously annoyed at the reducing choice of programmes that we are getting access to now that we no longer have Bravo, Bravo 2, Channel One and now Sky Atlantic.

Are VM starting to lose their grip again? Are they no longer interested in their TV viewers because Broadband is king? I certainly hope that this is not what we are seeing now. :mad:

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:36

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159424)
Oh right. Even that dont seem to be interesting so no wonder they hid it :rolleyes:

That's a very brief overview of it I don't know a great deal to be honest. It has won a host of awards including the Golden Globe for best drama for what that means.

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:37

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Well from what Sky Atlantic are going to be showing looks like you wont be missing out on anything

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:40

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159432)
Well from what Sky Atlantic are going to be showing looks like you wont be missing out on anything

As I say it's not for me but going from the poll result on this thread most viewers (65%) would like it which seems a bit contrary to so many posts on here.

I'd rather have Sky Arts HD!

Tezcatlipoca 26-01-2011 21:41

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159411)
Ya I know. Cant believe that there making so much fuss about it and a load of rubbish they are going to be shown https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/01/31.gif

Rubbish? Sky Atlantic has a brilliant line-up of top-quality US drama...

Big Love, Boardwalk Empire, Generation Kill, Mad Men, Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, The Wire...

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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159424)
Oh right. Even that dont seem to be interesting so no wonder they hid it :rolleyes:

It's an excellent drama series, and has won a whole load of awards (including the 2008, 2009, and 2010 Golden Globe Award for Best Drama, and the same again for the 2008, 2009, and 2010 Emmy Awards).

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:41

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Ya each to there own and all that. It wouldn't appeal to me either :td:

ahardie 26-01-2011 21:43

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35159425)
Well, I am miffed, big time. None of the channels we have provide a schedule of good programmes that I wish to watch for any one evening , but when you can pick out individual series from the full range of channels, this makes for a good selection of programmes for recordings. Sky Atlantic has a few programmes worth selecting for that purpose, such as Mad Men and Boardwalk Empire and I want access to them.

I don't know what is possible through the TIVO boxes. Can VM do deals directly with various studios and film suppliers such as Lovefilm to get good programmes to show through video on demand? If so, the picture may not be so bleak, but I am seriously annoyed at the reducing choice of programmes that we are getting access to now that we no longer have Bravo, Bravo 2, Channel One and now Sky Atlantic.

Are VM starting to lose their grip again? Are they no longer interested in their TV viewers because Broadband is king? I certainly hope that this is not what we are seeing now. :mad:

Have you read the thread Old Boy? Sky have started up this channel to be an exclusive. They could have put the programmes on existing channels but have started a new channel because they can keep it to themselves. They have been quite open about it. You are directing your anger at the wrong company. Not that directing at Sky will do any good. The more customers of rival platforms they annoy the happier they will be.

Tezcatlipoca 26-01-2011 21:45

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159399)
Theres loads of Star Trek and other Si_Fi stuff there so wouldn't be bothered with that stuff :(

Daytime padding, mostly. Sky has the Star Trek rights due to buying VMTV (Trek was previously on Virgin 1).

The big-name programmes, the shows the channel is designed for, are on at primetime.

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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159442)
Ya each to there own and all that. It wouldn't appeal to me either :td:

Fair enough. Do you know what any of them are though?

What kind of TV shows do you like?

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:49

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159441)
Rubbish? Sky Atlantic has a brilliant line-up of top-quality US drama...

Big Love, Boardwalk Empire, Generation Kill, Mad Men, Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, The Wire...



It's an excellent drama series, and has won a whole load of awards (including the 2008, 2009, and 2010 Golden Globe Award for Best Drama, and the same again for the 2008, 2009, and 2010 Emmy Awards).

It's subjective I guess, the content dosen't appeal to me but i'm not for one moment doubting it's quality.

Given 65% of the straw poll say they do want atlantic I know i'm in the minority.

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:49

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I like reality programmes. The district. Two and a half men. Soaps. Documenteries and good films as well

mersey70 26-01-2011 21:54

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159459)
I like reality programmes. The district. Two and a half men. Soaps. Documenteries and good films as well

Horses for courses, that's why multi channel TV is good as it caters for most tastes.

ahardie 26-01-2011 21:56

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159458)
It's subjective I guess, the content dosen't appeal to me but i'm not for one moment doubting it's quality.

Given 65% of the straw poll say they do want atlantic I know i'm in the minority.

I should point out though Mersey70 that "Hope Virgin get Sky Atlantic" isn't neccessarily the same as want it for myself. I'm genuinely not bothered for myself. I want it for people like Old Boy who are bothered and I don't think I need to go over my dislike of exclusive channels again. :)

Sasha222 26-01-2011 21:59

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Ya thats true.

Peter_ 26-01-2011 22:00

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159441)
Rubbish? Sky Atlantic has a brilliant line-up of top-quality US drama...

Big Love, Boardwalk Empire, Generation Kill, Mad Men, Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, The Wire...


Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price, not something that I would honestly want to pay for, now if it was all brand new unseen content then the argument would have credence but we already have many repeat channels.

mersey70 26-01-2011 22:01

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35159464)
I should point out though Mersey70 that "Hope Virgin get Sky Atlantic" isn't neccessarily the same as want it for myself. I'm genuinely not bothered for myself. I want it for people like Old Boy who are bothered and I don't think I need to go over my dislike of exclusive channels again. :)

There dosen't seem to be a category 'I want Sky Atlantic' though without having to leave VM, the closest is 'I Hope'

Rather vague wording me thinks, I read hope as I would l want it. Like you I couldn't care less if it's on VM though. Give me Sky Arts HD!!

Sasha222 26-01-2011 22:03

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159469)
Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price, not something that I would honestly want to pay for, now if it was all brand new unseen content then the argument would have credence but we already have many repeat channels.

I so agree with you and after all the fuss It's nothing to get excited about. I thought it would be all new content they would be shown that was never shown before :(

mersey70 26-01-2011 22:06

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159469)
Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price, not something that I would honestly want to pay for, now if it was all brand new unseen content then the argument would have credence but we already have many repeat channels.

Were any of those shows mentioned in the post you replied to shown on Virgin/Channel One, genuine question as I rarely watched it. What I saw of it they mostly shown average stuff like all the VMtv channels, mind you it was on freeview though.

Peter_ 26-01-2011 22:27

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159478)
Were any of those shows mentioned in the post you replied to shown on Virgin/Channel One, genuine question as I rarely watched it. What I saw of it they mostly shown tatt like all the VMtv channels.

I could have said Dave as or Gold as I would not pay a premium price for old TV programmes just because the channel is new.

I did without SKY ONE for a while when SKY last spat their dummy out as I have had SKY once before for 4 months which entailed getting the box replaced 3 times in that period which meant we could close the account due to them not fulfilling their side of the contract.

SKY as with BT is a provider I will never go back to when I can get similar products elsewhere.

Tezcatlipoca 26-01-2011 22:28

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159469)
Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price, not something that I would honestly want to pay for, now if it was all brand new unseen content then the argument would have credence but we already have many repeat channels.

It's hardly a premium price... it's part of the "Variety Pack", same as Sky One etc.

Lots of repeats during the day, which is just padding really. Better they fill the daytime with various Sky 1 / Virgin 1 things such as 24 & Star Trek, than just leave it off-air until the evening like BBC3/4, IMO.

The main shows, though, aren't all repeats. OK, The Sopranos & The Wire are shows which have been on TV before, but given that they are two of the best TV shows ever made, I don't have a problem with that! BSG... repeats again, but repeats of one of the best SF shows ever made.

Big Love has never had a decent airing in the UK. I think Five only showed the first season, & then ditched it. Sky will show the lot from the start (it's on season 5 now in the US), so that's new to the UK (other than the first season).

Mad Men... Atlantic will be showing it from the next (i.e. new) season. And it'll be better scheduled than the Beeb.

Boardwalk Empire - new. Blue Bloods - new. Treme - new. Game of Thrones - new. etc...


OK, still not "all brand new unseen content"... but as I said at the start of my post, it's not a Premium channel anyway. I think there's more than enough quality new content & quality repeat content on it to justify it's share of a Variety Pack subscription.

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I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been answered several times...

Why isn't Sky Atlantic going to be on VM? Is Sky asking VM for too much money? Is it just that a deal hasn't yet been struck or has all chance of it being on VM vanished already?

mersey70 26-01-2011 22:30

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159503)
I could have said Dave as or Gold as I would not pay a premium price for old TV programmes just because the channel is new.

I did without SKY ONE for a while when SKY last spat their dummy out as I have had SKY once before for 4 months which entailed getting the box replaced 3 times in that period which meant we could close the account due to them not fulfilling their side of the contract.

SKY as with BT is a provider I will never go back to when I can get similar products elsewhere.

Back to my question though were any of those programmes on Channel One though? if they were not how did you conclude Sky Atlantic is a premium replacement for Channel One?

I have now had chance to look, it dosen't look like any of them were on Channel One, i'm happy to be corrected though.

As staff I assume you get a discount so I don't blame you sticking with VM. Let's try and have some balance here.

Peter_ 26-01-2011 22:33

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159507)

Why isn't Sky Atlantic going to be on VM? Is Sky asking VM for too much money? Is it just that a deal hasn't yet been struck or has all chance of it being on VM vanished already?

NO idea probably SKY wanting to attract customers away from Virginmedia with their choice of tv offerings, competition is a good thing in many ways as it should help improve things overall.

Tezcatlipoca 26-01-2011 22:33

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159478)
Were any of those shows mentioned in the post you replied to shown on Virgin/Channel One, genuine question as I rarely watched it. What I saw of it they mostly shown average stuff like all the VMtv channels, mind you it was on freeview though.

None of the shows in the post of mine which Masque quoted were shown on Channel 1.

Big Love - Five, but ditched a few years ago.

Boardwalk Empire - new

Generation Kill - C4/More4

Mad Men - Beeb, but Atlantic will have new seasons as of the next one due this year.

Six Feet Under, The Sopranos - C4/More4

The Wire - Beeb.


A lot of the daytime padding on Atlantic will be ex. C1/V1 shows though (such as the various Star Treks, The X Files), while others (such as 24) are Sky 1/3 shows.

Peter_ 26-01-2011 22:36

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159508)
As staff I assume you get a discount so I don't blame you sticking with VM!!!!

We have to pay for premium content if we want it.

I have been a customer for over 16 years and have tried SKY for 4 months a bad experience while still a cable customer and will never go back.



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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159513)
None of the shows in the post of mine which Masque quoted were shown on Channel 1.

Big Love - Five, but ditched a few years ago.

Boardwalk Empire - new

Generation Kill - C4/More4

Mad Men - Beeb, but Atlantic will have new seasons as of the next one due this year.

Six Feet Under, The Sopranos - C4/More4

The Wire - Beeb.


A lot of the daytime padding on Atlantic will be ex. C1/V1 shows though (such as the various Star Treks, The X Files), while others (such as 24) are Sky 1/3 shows.

I was referring to the older programmes in your post not any new stuff as that is the reason many will want it, but really why not just have new content on a new channel.

OLD BOY 26-01-2011 22:38

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35159444)
Have you read the thread Old Boy? Sky have started up this channel to be an exclusive. They could have put the programmes on existing channels but have started a new channel because they can keep it to themselves. They have been quite open about it. You are directing your anger at the wrong company. Not that directing at Sky will do any good. The more customers of rival platforms they annoy the happier they will be.

My understanding is that Sky were not withholding the channel, just making it a tad expensive. However, my annoyance is really with the regulator. As I've said before a few times, I don't mind Sky grabbing programmes exclusively for their channels, but to make the channels themselves exclusive is wrong. If they want exclusive channels, they should buy programmes on a non-exclusive basis. Why should all the good programmes be hogged by the highest bidder? Where's the competition in that?

mersey70 26-01-2011 22:39

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159517)
We have to pay for premium content if we want it.

I have been a customer for over 16 years and have tried SKY for 4 months a bad experience while still a cable customer and will never go back.



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I was referring to the older programmes in your post not any new stuff as that is the reason many will want it, but really why not just have new content on a new channel.


Even your CEO who is a breath of fresh air in my opinion accepts it would be a great addition to VM (I assume if they can get it on the right terms), there really is no need to appear so biased. Non whatsoever. You do VM no favours.

Peter_ 26-01-2011 22:44

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159525)
Even your CEO who is a breath of fresh air in my opinion accepts it would be a great addition to VM (I assume if they can get it on the right terms), there really is no need to appear so biased. Non whatsoever.

Not at all biased as I have said quite a few times if you feel that SKY give you the television you want then go with them but you feel that you get a better broadband package with Virginmedia then keep that as you can have your cake and eat it.

I was stung by SKY and got rid because they failed to provide me with service which is reason enough to ditch them.

mersey70 26-01-2011 22:48

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159530)
Not at all biased as I have said quite a few times if you feel that SKY give you the television you want then go with them but you feel that you get a better broadband package with Virginmedia then keep that as you can have cake and eat it.

I was stung by SKY and got rid because they failed to provide me with service which is reason enough to ditch them.

I was stung by VM when I joined, I was told I would have CLI and that all catch up that I enjoyed on BT previously was available, both counts were wrong at the time. To their credit they compensated me though.

It dosen't mean they are all bad though but what that has to do with Sky Atlantic and the programmes on offer is anyones guess.

To suggest Sky Atlantic is a premium replacement for Channel One is utterly ludicrous as proven by the earlier posts and what is on offer. Channel One has probably been closed because it's rubbish, it was only created to fill a void in the basics spat and i'm amazed it lasted this long. They are totally different offerings.

ahardie 26-01-2011 22:48

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35159521)
My understanding is that Sky were not withholding the channel, just making it a tad expensive. However, my annoyance is really with the regulator. As I've said before a few times, I don't mind Sky grabbing programmes exclusively for their channels, but to make the channels themselves exclusive is wrong. If they want exclusive channels, they should buy programmes on a non-exclusive basis. Why should all the good programmes be hogged by the highest bidder? Where's the competition in that?

I don't think there is any evidence Old Boy that Sky want us to have the channel, at any price. I have posted this elsewhere in the thread but they say in a press release

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"Sky Atlantic HD is a key part of our strategy to help further grow the content gap between what you can get with Sky, and what you can get elsewhere."
That sounds pretty unambiguous to me. Of course VM will try and get the channel but there is absolutely no evidence that Sky want to play ball. Quite the opposite.

Tezcatlipoca 26-01-2011 23:11

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159517)
I was referring to the older programmes in your post not any new stuff as that is the reason many will want it, but really why not just have new content on a new channel.

Well, you did say "Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price"... yet none of the ones in the post you quoted were on Channel 1, plus Atlantic doesn't have a premium price, plus it's hardly "just a replacement for Channel 1" given that it's going to show far more than just X Files repeats, Trek repeats, & new episodes of Chuck. Atlantic has a lot more new content than Channel 1...and a lot more quality content (new & old).

Just new content on a new channel? I guess there simply isn't enough content. Just check the listings. New (& old) quality content during primetime, with Channel 1 style stuff (Trek, TXF, etc.) padding out the daytime. Sky could have just had it on in the evenings only, with just the quality stuff, but presumably decided it was a better use of the slot to have it during the day too so the old Channel 1 stuff can still be shown. I suppose in a way it's kind of Channel 1 during the day & Sky Atlantic in the evening/night, as the *real* Sky Atlantic shows are the stuff from HBO etc., which would never be on in the daytime.

Peter_ 26-01-2011 23:45

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159549)
Well, you did say "Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price"... yet none of the ones in the post you quoted were on Channel 1, plus Atlantic doesn't have a premium price, plus it's hardly "just a replacement for Channel 1" given that it's going to show far more than just X Files repeats, Trek repeats, & new episodes of Chuck. Atlantic has a lot more new content than Channel 1...and a lot more quality content (new & old).

As I will not get to see it I am not overly bothered as most programmes I watch are either on FX or one of the other channels, I probably should have been clearer as some of the programmes you mentioned have been cancelled and are therefore repeats like the Wire and some of the other older content you mentioned.

Also if SKY Atlantic were to be available on Virginmedia but as a subscription channel I would not pay for it as I do not feel the content warrants a subscription.

mersey70 26-01-2011 23:51

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159581)
As I will not get to see it I am not overly bothered as most programmes I watch are either on FX or one of the other channels, I probably should have been clearer as some of the programmes you mentioned have been cancelled and are therefore repeats like the Wire and some of the other older content you mentioned.

Also if SKY Atlantic were to be available on Virginmedia but as a subscription channel I would not pay for it as I do not feel the content warrants a subscription.

Is there any suggestion whatsoever it would be a add on premium channel though, from August it only costs £1 more on Sky if you don't already have the Variety Pack but you get a shed load of other channels in that pack too.

It's a basic pay channel like Sky 1, indeed it's in the same pack (as is VM's G.O.L.D). I would guess it would be in XL on VM, just a guess though.

Peter_ 26-01-2011 23:57

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159590)
Is there any suggestion whatsoever it would be a add on channel though, from August it only costs £1 more on Sky if you don't already have the Variety Pack but you get a shed load of other channels in that pack too.

It's a basic pay channel like Sky 1, indeed it's in the same pack. I would guess it would be in XL on VM, just a guess though.

I remember when they stopped SKY one on Virginmedia and would only have SKY Atlantic as an ordinary channel in my package which is the top TV one on Virginmedia I would only pay for the movie or sports channels on top of my present package.

mersey70 27-01-2011 00:00

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159595)
I remember when they stopped SKY one on Virginmedia and would only have SKY Atlantic as an ordinary channel in my package which is the top TV one on Virginmedia I would only pay for the movie or sports channels on top of my present package.

I'm sorry I don't understand your post.

If you mean Atlantic possibly being in XL I was merely speculating, maybe it wouldnt be who knows as Sky 1 isn't, that would be upto VM.

Peter_ 27-01-2011 00:05

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159598)
I'm sorry I don't understand your post.

If you mean Atlantic possibly being in XL I was merely speculating, maybe it wouldnt be who knows as Sky 1 isn't, that would be upto VM.

I would only watch SKY Atlantic if it was included for free in my package the same as SKY One is at present I would not pay extra for the privilege of watching it.

harryxb 27-01-2011 00:08

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I think it was mentioned earlier , there is a lot of complaining about Skys actions here on a Virginmedia forum.

I have to say that is the problem. Everything Sky does has an effect here on Virgin, they seem to be able to play with virginmedia and their customers whenever they like. The grand puppet masters! I just wish Virginmedia had a big win coming , something spectacular to really annoy skys customers perhaps.

I am confident that Atlantic will be sorted one day . I just wonder what will happen once other companies crack the fast broadband issue (Which they will I am sure) I wonder what Virginmedia will have left to compete with Sky. If it is not going to be the TV content, not going to be the price , not going to be free hardware and maybe not the internet then what future Virginmedia? Watch out for Sky then , then they will be ruthless.

Come on Virginmedia.... annoy some sky customers :)

mersey70 27-01-2011 00:11

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159599)
I would only watch SKY Atlantic if it was included for free in my package the same as SKY One is at present I would not pay extra for the privilege of watching it.

Nor would I.

Sasha222 27-01-2011 00:18

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harryxb (Post 35159601)
I think it was mentioned earlier , there is a lot of complaining about Skys actions here on a Virginmedia forum.

I have to say that is the problem. Everything Sky does has an effect here on Virgin, they seem to be able to play with virginmedia and their customers whenever they like. The grand puppet masters! I just wish Virginmedia had a big win coming , something spectacular to really annoy skys customers perhaps.

I am confident that Atlantic will be sorted one day . I just wonder what will happen once other companies crack the fast broadband issue (Which they will I am sure) I wonder what Virginmedia will have left to compete with Sky. If it is not going to be the TV content, not going to be the price , not going to be free hardware and maybe not the internet then what future Virginmedia? Watch out for Sky then , then they will be ruthless.

Come on Virginmedia.... annoy some sky customers :)

Why would you want Sky customers to be annoyed? :erm: Were not running the show were just Sky customers. If your that annoyed at Virgin Media why dont you change over to Sky. What's stopping you? https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/01/29.gif

mersey70 27-01-2011 00:41

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159604)
Why would you want Sky customers to be annoyed? :erm: Were not running the show were just Sky customers. If your that annoyed at Virgin Media why dont you change over to Sky. What's stopping you? https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/01/29.gif

Not that I am suggesting the poster is but for some odd reason there are people on here who are neither VM staff or stock holders and they just seem to have the view that Sky is evil due to Murdoch's involvement and VM are angels when they probably have no idea who actually owns Virgin Media. The last time I looked at their corporate site it showed it was predominantly owned by a load of US hedge funds and financial institutions, maybe like those ones who have caused us all the odd problem these days. I think some poeple think 'cuddly' Sir Richard owns it who we don't see much of now as Virgin only hold about 6% don't they?

They are both big greedy corporate organisations after a buck, end of. As are BT.

Sasha222 27-01-2011 00:50

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I dont have a clue about all the politics of it all. I'm not with Virgin Media but I do know the staff on here do give a lot of their time and go out of their way to help people on here. When someone is in trouble they are always ready to jump in and help and give the best advice they can and if that cant be given the poster is given the info they need to get numbers to call so have no problem with any Virgin staff.

I was just responding to the poster and wondering why he wanted Sky customers to be annoyed and if he is that annoyed with Virgin then why doesn't he change

mersey70 27-01-2011 00:58

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159618)
I dont have a clue about all the politics of it all. I'm not with Virgin Media but I do know the staff on here do give a lot of their time and go out of their way to help people on here. When someone is in trouble they are always ready to jump in and help and give the best advice they can and if that cant be given the poster is given the info they need to get numbers to call so have no problem with any Virgin staff.

I was just responding to the poster and wondering why he wanted Sky customers to be annoyed and if he is that annoyed with Virgin then why doesn't he change

Most of the staff on here are great and are as helpful and frank as they can be. However some other posters really need to look at the corporate set up of VM and maybe be a bit more open minded about them and indeed Sky.

I don't see that much difference between the two and many other big companies really, they are all after one thing ultimately. How they go about that is sometimes different though.

Tezcatlipoca 27-01-2011 01:38

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159581)
As I will not get to see it I am not overly bothered as most programmes I watch are either on FX or one of the other channels, I probably should have been clearer as some of the programmes you mentioned have been cancelled and are therefore repeats like the Wire and some of the other older content you mentioned.

Also if SKY Atlantic were to be available on Virginmedia but as a subscription channel I would not pay for it as I do not feel the content warrants a subscription.

Fair enough if it's not your sort of thing, and not something you would watch.

But as I mentioned, the previous comment that it's "Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price" is rather inaccurate, as it's not premium, not mainly repeats, and not just a replacement for Channel One.

Yes there are repeats (& I know The Wire is, I did say so earlier), but there are repeats of far higher quality shows (e.g. The Wire, BSG, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, etc.) than the stuff repeated on Channel 1. [Daytime stuff is as I already said still fairly similar to Channel 1's obviously (Trek repeats, X Files repeats) along with Sky 1/3 (24 repeats). Padding. The real content is primetime.]

And compared to Channel One, the new content is greater in both quantity and quality. Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Big Love, Game of Thones, Treme, etc.

For anyone like me who loves quality US drama, Sky Atlantic is going to be brilliant... Far more on it than Sky One has, and obviously far more than Channel One ever had. Lots of great shows, old & new, which it really is a shame that VM customers will miss :(

All it's missing IMO are a few things which FX has (e.g. Dexter, True Blood, The Walking Dead), along with Sons of Anarchy. FX does at least treat The Walking Dead very well, but I'd much prefer if Sky Atlantic instead of FX showed Dexter and True Blood, as then they'd actually get shown at a decent time, instead of months & months after the US broadcast. FX had Sons of Anarchy, but it's also been on Bravo & Five USA so I don't know what the situation is with that. Oh, Breaking Bad, too. That would definitely benefit from Atlantic, as it's another one which has been treated poorly. True Blood won't move though, as FX has a lifetime deal. No idea about the others.

I wouldn't pay *extra* for it either... but as I said, it isn't Premium on Sky... It's in the Variety Pack, same as Sky One, Bravo, FX, etc... Basic entertainment package...Hopefully the same will be true if/when if finally comes to VM :)

v0id 27-01-2011 01:55

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159626)

For anyone like me who loves quality US drama, Sky Atlantic is going to be brilliant... Far more on it than Sky One has, and obviously far more than Channel One ever had. Lots of great shows, old & new, which it really is a shame that VM customers will miss :(

Anyone who loves quality US drama, watches it 'US Timeline' ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159626)
FX had Sons of Anarchy, but it's also been on Bravo & Five USA so I don't know what the situation is with that.

Bravo snagged the rights to season 2 onwards from FX IIRC.
So I'd imagine it'll follow another Bravo acquisition, Hawaii Five 0 and go to SkyOne. I just wonder whether Leverage will too.
Sky did say their reason for the channel closure was it had a similar demographic to SkyOne, so there's hope for the VM audience

mersey70 27-01-2011 03:25

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159626)
Fair enough if it's not your sort of thing, and not something you would watch.

But as I mentioned, the previous comment that it's "Mainly repeats so just a replacement for Channel One but with a premium price" is rather inaccurate, as it's not premium, not mainly repeats, and not just a replacement for Channel One.

Yes there are repeats (& I know The Wire is, I did say so earlier), but there are repeats of far higher quality shows (e.g. The Wire, BSG, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, etc.) than the stuff repeated on Channel 1. [Daytime stuff is as I already said still fairly similar to Channel 1's obviously (Trek repeats, X Files repeats) along with Sky 1/3 (24 repeats). Padding. The real content is primetime.]

And compared to Channel One, the new content is greater in both quantity and quality. Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Big Love, Game of Thones, Treme, etc.

For anyone like me who loves quality US drama, Sky Atlantic is going to be brilliant... Far more on it than Sky One has, and obviously far more than Channel One ever had. Lots of great shows, old & new, which it really is a shame that VM customers will miss :(

All it's missing IMO are a few things which FX has (e.g. Dexter, True Blood, The Walking Dead), along with Sons of Anarchy. FX does at least treat The Walking Dead very well, but I'd much prefer if Sky Atlantic instead of FX showed Dexter and True Blood, as then they'd actually get shown at a decent time, instead of months & months after the US broadcast. FX had Sons of Anarchy, but it's also been on Bravo & Five USA so I don't know what the situation is with that. Oh, Breaking Bad, too. That would definitely benefit from Atlantic, as it's another one which has been treated poorly. True Blood won't move though, as FX has a lifetime deal. No idea about the others.

I wouldn't pay *extra* for it either... but as I said, it isn't Premium on Sky... It's in the Variety Pack, same as Sky One, Bravo, FX, etc... Basic entertainment package...Hopefully the same will be true if/when if finally comes to VM :)

I broadly agree. I'd be surprised if Atlantic will be showing Jerry Springer! it's a very, very different offering to the underwhelming Channel One. Of course as an exclusively pay channel it should be too.

Peter_ 27-01-2011 15:48

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I am seeing advertisements telling me that from 9pm on the 3rd of February that SKY subscribers can watch classic TV series from the beginning like the Sopranos and Six Feet Under and not a single person appears to have noticed.

welwynrose 27-01-2011 17:18

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159599)
I would only watch SKY Atlantic if it was included for free in my package the same as SKY One is at present I would not pay extra for the privilege of watching it.


I would concur

noel43 27-01-2011 18:45

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35159507)
It's hardly a premium price... it's part of the "Variety Pack", same as Sky One etc.

Lots of repeats during the day, which is just padding really. Better they fill the daytime with various Sky 1 / Virgin 1 things such as 24 & Star Trek, than just leave it off-air until the evening like BBC3/4, IMO.

The main shows, though, aren't all repeats. OK, The Sopranos & The Wire are shows which have been on TV before, but given that they are two of the best TV shows ever made, I don't have a problem with that! BSG... repeats again, but repeats of one of the best SF shows ever made.

Big Love has never had a decent airing in the UK. I think Five only showed the first season, & then ditched it. Sky will show the lot from the start (it's on season 5 now in the US), so that's new to the UK (other than the first season).

Mad Men... Atlantic will be showing it from the next (i.e. new) season. And it'll be better scheduled than the Beeb.

Boardwalk Empire - new. Blue Bloods - new. Treme - new. Game of Thrones - new. etc...


OK, still not "all brand new unseen content"... but as I said at the start of my post, it's not a Premium channel anyway. I think there's more than enough quality new content & quality repeat content on it to justify it's share of a Variety Pack subscription.

--------------

I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been answered several times...

Why isn't Sky Atlantic going to be on VM? Is Sky asking VM for too much money? Is it just that a deal hasn't yet been struck or has all chance of it being on VM vanished already?



Seen three episodes of Boardwalk Empire was not impresses, but then each to his own.

devilincarnate 27-01-2011 19:06

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Can i just say that after seeing what is going to be on the channel. I must be the minority as i have never watched any of the shows that are going to to broadcast on the channel so i do not care if VM get the channel.

This is my opinion and with the shows that i never watch i hope that VM try to get another channel instead.

Taf 27-01-2011 19:20

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35159304)
What programmes are they going to show Taf? Do you have a link availabe of them please if not It's ok? Just want to see what the line up is

I used next week's TV guide from Tesco ;)

Sasha222 27-01-2011 19:44

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35160139)
I used next week's TV guide from Tesco ;)

Thanks so much Taffor that. Really appricate it.

Tezcatlipoca 27-01-2011 20:42

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35159627)
Anyone who loves quality US drama, watches it 'US Timeline' ;)

True ;)

But if more shows were broadcast closer to their original US airdate, there wouldn't be such a need to use "alternative means".


Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35159627)
Bravo snagged the rights to season 2 onwards from FX IIRC.
So I'd imagine it'll follow another Bravo acquisition, Hawaii Five 0 and go to SkyOne. I just wonder whether Leverage will too.
Sky did say their reason for the channel closure was it had a similar demographic to SkyOne, so there's hope for the VM audience

Ah. I'd be happy with SoA on Sky One. *Someone* bloody needs to show it properly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35159643)
I broadly agree. I'd be surprised if Atlantic will be showing Jerry Springer! it's a very, very different offering to the underwhelming Channel One. Of course as an exclusively pay channel it should be too.

Yup. Very different to Channel 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35159880)
I am seeing advertisements telling me that from 9pm on the 3rd of February that SKY subscribers can watch classic TV series from the beginning like the Sopranos and Six Feet Under and not a single person appears to have noticed.

Noticed what, exactly? What are you pointing out, just that the ads say Sky subscribers can see it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by noel43 (Post 35160104)
Seen three episodes of Boardwalk Empire was not impresses, but then each to his own.

Fair enough :)

I've watched the lot, though, and loved it. It was a critical and commercial success in the US. Great ratings, great reviews, plus also recently won the 2011 Golden Globe award for Best Drama (in 2008, 2009, & 2010 it went to Mad Men, also coming to Atlantic).

Peter_ 27-01-2011 20:50

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35160226)



Noticed what, exactly? What are you pointing out, just that the ads say Sky subscribers can see it?



My wife had Challenge on today and I saw my first ever advertisement for the channel which showed the classics you mentioned plus new Tom Selleck one called Blue Bloods which looked good.

So I thought it was a good idea to mention the adverts.

Digital Fanatic 27-01-2011 20:56

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Maybe VM could go for ShowTime programming on VoD?

http://www.sho.com/site/series/home.do

Tezcatlipoca 27-01-2011 21:04

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35160236)
My wife had Challenge on today and I saw my first ever advertisement for the channel which showed the classics you mentioned plus new Tom Selleck one called Blue Bloods which looked good.

So I thought it was a good idea to mention the adverts.

Ah, fair do's :)

It's being advertised a lot on Absolute Radio at the moment too.

muppetman11 27-01-2011 21:19

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35160240)
Maybe VM could go for ShowTime programming on VoD?

http://www.sho.com/site/series/home.do

Debbie Does Dallas sounds good LOL :D

Chad 27-01-2011 21:20

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35160240)
Maybe VM could go for ShowTime programming on VoD?

http://www.sho.com/site/series/home.do

You just want to watch Debbie Does Dallas Again:D

Oh you beat me to it you Muppet!

Peter_ 27-01-2011 21:44

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35160247)
Ah, fair do's :)

It's being advertised a lot on Absolute Radio at the moment too.

I have seen the Dustin Hoffman adverts but this was the first advertising actual shows with times.

Chad 27-01-2011 23:22

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35160270)
I have seen the Dustin Hoffman adverts but this was the first advertising actual shows with times.

I've watched the Dustin Hoffman advert way too many times now. Is it just me or does Dustin Hoffman look like he doesn't give a flying fig about SKY Atlantic? He's got that kind of "I was I wasn't selling out" look about him. He's probably one of the least exciting actors they could have found. Maybe in time it'll prove that SKY Atlantic is almost as exciting and fun as Dustin Hoffman.

Peter_ 27-01-2011 23:25

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35160335)
I've watched the Dustin Hoffman advert way too many times now. Is it just me or does Dustin Hoffman look like he doesn't give a flying fig about SKY Atlantic? He's got that kind of "I was I wasn't selling out" look about him. He's probably one of the least exciting actors they could have found. Maybe in time it'll prove that SKY Atlantic is almost as exciting and fun as Dustin Hoffman.

Its a Dale Winton I am only here for the money look.:D

Media Boy UK 27-01-2011 23:29

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
BSkyB to broadcast an preview to Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media on Tuesday night.

An Preview is being broadcast on the Following channels on Tuesday night at 8pm (+1 hour at 9pm).

Sky1
Sky2
Sky3*
Sky Living
Sky Livingit
Sky Living Loves
Challenge*
Sky Arts 1.

*I think it also on Sky3 and Challenge - Info from my V+ Box.

Chad 27-01-2011 23:29

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35160338)
Its a Dale Winton I am only here for the money look.:D

I've heard a rumour that Hoffman will be featuring heavily in SKY's first HBO collaboration, Super Market Sweep USA:D

It'll be free and exclusive to all SKY customers, thank .... for that:D

muppetman11 27-01-2011 23:35

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Trying to tempt VM subscribers over to the dark side , do they really think Atlantic is that good. The scary thing is you can see all there new shows going on Atlantic over time.

Peter_ 27-01-2011 23:38

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35160354)
Trying to tempt VM subscribers over to the dark side , do they really think Atlantic is that good. The scary thing is you can see all there new shows going on Atlantic over time.

They cannot match the broadband though.:)

Chad 27-01-2011 23:47

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I can put together a better 24 hour schedule than SKY Atlantic within 30 minutes with my 50Mb broadband. I'm not saying it's right or legal, I'm just saying I can. In fact I can pretty much pull together SKY Atlantic's first full week of shows before I go to bed tonight. I'll just do that and start watching the shows at the exact same time they are broadcast from next week. I'll just pretend I've got the channel. SKY Atlantic without the bin lid!

nialli 28-01-2011 10:46

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I've been watching Boardwalk Empire through "alternative means"; it's not something I do out of choice, it's something that I have been driven to as it's a series I really wanted to try and HBO/Sky won't make it available to me (I can't have a dish and there's no release date for DVDs or iTunes release). I would rather watch it legitimately, but that is not available to me, and I can honestly say it is the first time I've ever used Bit Torrent.
Surprised how easy and fast it was to do. Like I say, not something I would have considered if not for the channel being a "Sky exclusive". When will the content providers realise that the world is changing and if they don't provide the programmes for those of us who want to legitimately purchase them their days are truly numbered?

muppetman11 28-01-2011 12:31

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35160377)
I can put together a better 24 hour schedule than SKY Atlantic within 30 minutes with my 50Mb broadband. I'm not saying it's right or legal, I'm just saying I can. In fact I can pretty much pull together SKY Atlantic's first full week of shows before I go to bed tonight. I'll just do that and start watching the shows at the exact same time they are broadcast from next week. I'll just pretend I've got the channel. SKY Atlantic without the bin lid!

Do they not bother as much with downloading TV , as they are taking to court music and film downloaders.

Kuro 28-01-2011 20:53

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Not interested in Sky Atlantic.
Had enough of my Sky TV dying in downpours(Heavy rain) that I simply moved.

One thing that Virgin mostly have over Sky is. The heavens can open up and god can take an almighty pee on the Earth with a non stop rainpour, and the TV will still work. However with Sky, think again.

Anyhow, anything on Sky Atlantic you could pick up cheap enough on DVD anyway.

DaMac 29-01-2011 10:54

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35160538)
I've been watching Boardwalk Empire through "alternative means"; it's not something I do out of choice, it's something that I have been driven to as it's a series I really wanted to try and HBO/Sky won't make it available to me (I can't have a dish and there's no release date for DVDs or iTunes release). I would rather watch it legitimately, but that is not available to me, and I can honestly say it is the first time I've ever used Bit Torrent.
Surprised how easy and fast it was to do. Like I say, not something I would have considered if not for the channel being a "Sky exclusive". When will the content providers realise that the world is changing and if they don't provide the programmes for those of us who want to legitimately purchase them their days are truly numbered?

Totally agree with you mate, i really want to watch boardwalk empire, and with most tv's, dvd/blu-ray players and game consoles able to play xvid, or how quick it is to use convertx to make dvd's out of them, how long before entire workplaces, community's, schools are passing round memory sticks or selling dvd's with the episodes on.. "I tried watching that boardwalk empire on Sky last night thats been advertised, but we don't get that atlantic on virgin" - "Neither do we, tommy downloads em, i'll get him do you a copy, or if you've got a pen drive he'll just stick em on for you" "oh right, thanks coz i wasnt messing about changing to sky just for a couple of programs, harry says we can only get about 6meg broadband from sky coz of the copper wire and local loopy or something"... Thats what happens, thats whats going to happen, people will watch it in masses without switching to sky, it isn't legal but people have become savvy, if they can't get it at a cheap and cheerful price without any messing, they will get it somwhere else, surely somebody at sky must understand that its better to get some money, increased viewing figures and as such increased advertising than being an all exclusive members club. You wouldn't run your own company like this, you wouldn't say, oh we could make money of them, but we won't just so we can thumb our nose at them.

Tezcatlipoca 29-01-2011 21:55

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuro (Post 35160940)
Not interested in Sky Atlantic.
Had enough of my Sky TV dying in downpours(Heavy rain) that I simply moved.

One thing that Virgin mostly have over Sky is. The heavens can open up and god can take an almighty pee on the Earth with a non stop rainpour, and the TV will still work. However with Sky, think again.

Anyhow, anything on Sky Atlantic you could pick up cheap enough on DVD anyway.

Heavy rain doesn't affect my Sky...

As for picking up Sky Atlantic programmes "cheap enough on DVD"... Only the old stuff!

Media Boy UK 01-02-2011 12:08

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Sky have said ''Sky Atlantic - free to all Sky viewers''.

It NOT!!!

I cant view Sky Atlantic and Challenge on my Freesat from Sky Box.

An sign says I need to phone Sky up.

Sasha222 01-02-2011 12:26

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Unless you have the HD pack you dont get it. In small writing on the ad that they have look at the small print and it says only available on HD

WillPS 01-02-2011 12:28

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Seems to show up on my SkyHD (without HD subscription)?

Sasha222 01-02-2011 12:30

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
I only have HD on one box and I got Sky atlantic on that but cant get it on the muli room box so dont know :confused:

mersey70 01-02-2011 12:36

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35163442)
Sky have said ''Sky Atlantic - free to all Sky viewers''.

It NOT!!!

I cant view Sky Atlantic and Challenge on my Freesat from Sky Box.

An sign says I need to phone Sky up.

Sky have said Atlantic is 'free to Sky customers' not viewers. Freesat from sky viewers are not Sky customers.

And is Challenge included in freesat from sky, the website dosen't say so?

Media Boy UK 01-02-2011 12:43

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35163485)
Sky have said Atlantic is 'free to Sky customers' not viewers. Freesat from sky viewers are not Sky customers.

And is Challenge included in freesat from sky, the website dosen't say so?

An sign is up on my Box saying I need to phone Sky up if I want to view Challenge.

mersey70 01-02-2011 12:57

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35163499)
An sign is up on my Box saying I need to phone Sky up if I want to view Challenge.

You will need to call as you're not a Sky customer, you will not get Challenge or the freeview of Atlantic, doh!

Stephen 01-02-2011 13:55

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35163442)
Sky have said ''Sky Atlantic - free to all Sky viewers''.

It NOT!!!

I cant view Sky Atlantic and Challenge on my Freesat from Sky Box.

An sign says I need to phone Sky up.

You need to be a paying Sky customer. Having freesat doesn't count.

Doug P 01-02-2011 14:50

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Really not bothered about Sky Atlantic. Hope those who want it get it but it isn't for me.

Wicked_and_Crazy 01-02-2011 15:28

Re: Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35163442)
Sky have said ''Sky Atlantic - free to all Sky viewers''.

It NOT!!!

I cant view Sky Atlantic and Challenge on my Freesat from Sky Box.

An sign says I need to phone Sky up.


Don't worry, you also said

http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com...ic-update.html

and its not


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