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Kymmy 02-02-2010 13:01
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Actually the BBC news feed has more, they asked the team and the team says that it's standard to run the paint on part of the day to confirm aerodynamics and currently there are no problems

webcrawler2050 02-02-2010 13:05
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Yeah just seen that, I hope all is well
with McLaren

sherer 02-02-2010 13:24
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yes lots of teams use that paint in testing. It's when they run it on a race weekend like they did last year you want to worry.

Strangely this is Alquiresai's first F1 test despite taking part in half of last season . Although I still can't spell his name !

As the rules are the same for last year and this except the need for a bigger fuel tank I think McLaren will be one of the front runners

Flyboy 02-02-2010 13:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34956615)
And yet again they've voted to change the points sytem to increase the gap between 1st and 2nd place.

Points run will now be 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.
I don't undrstand why they can't just have 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10.

Kymmy 02-02-2010 13:52
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Mainly as someone who consistanly comes in for example third place could still beat someone who wins 50% of the seasons races ;)

Matty_ 02-02-2010 15:31
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I really don`t like the look of any of this seasons cars, to me they all look like Duck-Billed Platypus with the exception of maybe the Ferrari and the Jordan ( nay Renault) which the former is spoiled by having the front wing white and the Renault looks like a basking shark with wheels!

The williams looks okay but again it`s to bitty ;)

Still it`s the racing that counts and with the new points system hopefully some good old fashioned overtaking...

sherer 02-02-2010 16:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 34956697)
I really don`t like the look of any of this seasons cars, to me they all look like Duck-Billed Platypus with the exception of maybe the Ferrari and the Jordan ( nay Renault) which the former is spoiled by having the front wing white and the Renault looks like a basking shark with wheels!

The williams looks okay but again it`s to bitty ;)

Still it`s the racing that counts and with the new points system hopefully some good old fashioned overtaking...
i'm not sure if the new points system will help overtaking. With the new system going down to 10th place you don't have to fight through the midfield as much as before to get to 8th

Kymmy 03-02-2010 10:25
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OK guys, can someone with more time than myself ;) post up a current list of who's driving for who and the teams also missing the drivers... If we have a complete list then I'll create a new poll thread (no point in doing it to this thread as last year the poll ruined the layout of the main discussion thread. Will do two (one for the drivers and another for the team championship) Will restrict the discussion in those threads to poll related topic only) Will also time the polls to end the day before the first practice :)

sherer 03-02-2010 11:03
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there is a list here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ms/default.stm

Not up to date as Petrov is now in the Renault but the best I have seen so far

webcrawler2050 03-02-2010 13:57
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8495435.stm

Looks pretty darn sexy, if I dont say so myself! :D

hedgie 05-02-2010 10:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by webcrawler2050 (Post 34957237)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8495435.stm

Looks pretty darn sexy, if I dont say so myself! :D
Oh yes, with you on that one, really looks the part. I would love the Virign/Manor/Wirth squad to really make an impact on the stopwatch.

That is without doubt the best livery this year, by far :D, even looks good at a damp dark overcast Silverstone.

http://www.virginracing.com/cars/nam.../#/car-gallery
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81286

Pierre 08-02-2010 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 34956697)
with the exception of maybe the Ferrari and the Jordan ( nay Renault) which the former is spoiled by having the front wing white and the Renault looks like a basking shark with wheels!
Do You mean the Force India or the Renault??????


Force India is the last incarnation of Jordan, having previously been Spyker and Midland F1

hedgie 09-02-2010 11:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34960267)
Do You mean the Force India or the Renault??????


Force India is the last incarnation of Jordan, having previously been Spyker and Midland F1
I took the Jordan reference to mean the yellow and black livery;)

Matty_ 10-02-2010 15:47
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I took the Jordan reference to mean the yellow and black livery;)
You sir win a cookie :D

sherer 10-02-2010 17:07
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first run for the Virgin today. Bottom of the time sheets but it was a wet day so nothing to worry about at moment. Hopefully they will get some proper running tomorrow and into the weekend

hedgie 10-02-2010 23:00
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Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 34961687)
You sir win a cookie :D
M'mm white chocolate chips :D

Hom3r 10-02-2010 23:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 34961687)
You sir win a cookie :D
http://www.zedge.net/ringtones/45023...okie-ringtone/

mr_bo 11-02-2010 09:40
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Picture of the Lotus:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81365

mr_bo 11-02-2010 14:17
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Not a good start for Virgin:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8510697.stm

Perhaps they should have put it in a wind tunnel and are suffering from a completely cad designed car?

Kymmy 11-02-2010 19:13
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New track layout at silverstone.. Looks quite good!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8511026.stm

Matty_ 11-02-2010 21:11
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It`s been paintedBLUE, not a bad choice of colour if you ask me :p:

Seriously the new section does look like an overtaking spot, congrats to the BRDC on a job well done :tu:

G UK 12-02-2010 20:12
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Lotus have launched there new car.

http://www.lotusracing.my/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8513511.stm

Would have preferred Black & Gold JPS style but the classic BRG & Yellow still looks good.

Kymmy 18-02-2010 14:33
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USF1 floundering??

http://en.espnf1.com/teamus/motorsport/story/9004.html

Pierre 19-02-2010 11:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34965731)
Was always on the cards wasn't it, Bernie predicted as much a while back. But if USF1 going under means that Campos makes it to the grid, then at least something good will have come of it.

sherer 19-02-2010 11:40
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the thing is USf1 were the first new team in and started a year before the others and still can't make the grid.

Virgin and Lotus are there with cars testing and doing ok. Campos is still a worry as they haven't paid the bill to Dallara for the car. Hope Campos do make it.

Shame the FIA never went for prodrive or Stefan GP

mr_bo 19-02-2010 12:28
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34966089)
the thing is USf1 were the first new team in and started a year before the others and still can't make the grid.

Virgin and Lotus are there with cars testing and doing ok. Campos is still a worry as they haven't paid the bill to Dallara for the car. Hope Campos do make it.

Shame the FIA never went for prodrive or Stefan GP
Stefan may still make it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8518652.stm

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Would anyone go to this much effort if there wasn't a sniff of a grid position?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81593

Jon T 20-02-2010 18:39
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USF1 have asked the FIA if they can miss out the first four Grand Prix:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8526137.stm

Hom3r 20-02-2010 18:47
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Bernie won't have it.

It's his fotball and he'll stomp about til they do things his way.

hedgie 20-02-2010 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_bo (Post 34966107)
Stefan may still make it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8518652.stm

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Would anyone go to this much effort if there wasn't a sniff of a grid position?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81593
Really hope Stefan GP are not given a slot, N-Technology, Prodrive and Lola were all passed by in the selection process, what Stefan are doing now is simple opportunistic brinkmanship. Not sure why established race engineering teams were passed up for dodgy startups with no track record........

Grumpy of Warrington ;)

Hom3r 20-02-2010 20:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34967189)
Really hope Stefan GP are not given a slot, N-Technology, Prodrive and Lola were all passed by in the selection process, what Stefan are doing now is simple opportunistic brinkmanship. Not sure why established race engineering teams were passed up for dodgy startups with no track record........

Grumpy of Warrington ;)
One word "MONEY"

Turkey Machine 20-02-2010 21:10
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That Stefan GP bought out Toyota's F1 assets, factory, designs, car and personnel, meant that they had a team there but no slot. Toyota had an F1 entry.

hedgie 22-02-2010 13:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34967199)
That Stefan GP bought out Toyota's F1 assets, factory, designs, car and personnel, meant that they had a team there but no slot. Toyota had an F1 entry.
I suspect that USF1 will cut a deal with the Serbians, although I really dont like the thought that a team will pitch up in Bahrain having done no testing.

Wonder how Jaque Villenueves neck will hold out?

;)

Matty_ 22-02-2010 21:35
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It seems to have become a bit farcical this year, what with people leaving then staying, then someone else buys them out.
Now we have some Serbian government backed team probably going to be on the grid for Bahrain.............very, very unlike F1 :p:

Bernie likes his political/important friends :angel:

sherer 23-02-2010 10:14
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with hindsight the FIA should have let in Prodrive and Lola.

USF1 were announced over a year before they were due to come in and funded by either one of the google or yahoo people, forget which. They have now pulled out as have other sponsor due to the financial crisis.

Not long until the first race and should be a good year with Button \ Hamilton in one team, against Alonso \ Massa and Webber \ Vettel. Only thing is in Mercedes there is really just Schumacher to score the top points which if the others take points off each other could help him out.

Flyboy 25-02-2010 00:54
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I think too many people are making too much a fuss over Schumacher. I really don't think he is up to competing with the current crop of Young Turks.

Hom3r 25-02-2010 01:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34970078)
I think too many people are making too much a fuss over Schumacher. I really don't think he is up to competing with the current crop of Young Turks.
Never right off Schuy, the guy still owns 31 F1 records. (and he hasn't raced in 3 seasons)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael...la_One_records

32 if the following happens

It is also of note that as of the end of 2004 season, he did win every circuit he had ever raced in at least once. For him to regain the record upon his return to Formula 1, he will have to win at Turkish Grand Prix, and the new night races at Singapore and Valencia and any new races introduced in the 2010 season (The day/night race at Abu Dhabi and maybe Korea).

mr_bo 01-03-2010 15:31
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Quote:
It now appears that neither USF1 nor Campos will be on the grid for the season-opener at Bahrain.
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...ay-until-2011/

sherer 01-03-2010 15:48
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feel sorry for the drivers who signed up to what they thought was going to be a new team and now with a few weeks to go before the season starts will have no drives.

Flyboy 01-03-2010 19:22
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But they will still have the chance to drive at some point during the season.

Turkey Machine 02-03-2010 11:19
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I thought Campos had the funds and a car. Now who's gonna take that one on?! Dallara can't afford their own team at the moment, they're a chassis builder, and a good one at that!

Kymmy 02-03-2010 11:22
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At this rate there probably won;t be much sense in putting up a poll this year, mainly as I think this indecision will be continuing right upto and probably past the first race..

Will probably instead just start a which driver and which team would you like to win this year thread instead soon

sherer 02-03-2010 11:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34973237)
I thought Campos had the funds and a car. Now who's gonna take that one on?! Dallara can't afford their own team at the moment, they're a chassis builder, and a good one at that!
they were meant to have the funds and as you say Dallara are building the chassis. I think some of the funding was coming from Senna but for whatever reason the funds are no longer in place. They haven't paid Dallara and so have no car at the moment. Not even sure if it has passed the FIA crash tests

Kymmy 02-03-2010 11:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34973238)
At this rate there probably won;t be much sense in putting up a poll this year, mainly as I think this indecision will be continuing right upto and probably past the first race..

Will probably instead just start a which driver and which team would you like to win this year thread instead soon
Discussion thread purely for driver/team you want to win set up at

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...river-you.html

The thread will be closed before the first qualifying session of the first race of the season so make sure your prediction is a good one :)

hedgie 02-03-2010 21:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34973237)
I thought Campos had the funds and a car. Now who's gonna take that one on?! Dallara can't afford their own team at the moment, they're a chassis builder, and a good one at that!
Apparently there Colin Kolles is going to run the "Campos" operation from the Opel DTM Factory in Germany. They have already paid Cosworth for the engines and have had a further injection of Cash from Spain. Should be there in Bahrain,although how much running they will do is any bodys guess.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/0...-gp-agitating/

USF1 are already talking about 2011 !!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81820

Kymmy 03-03-2010 16:15
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USF1 now want a 12month deferal on thier entry

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8547335.stm

Matth 03-03-2010 23:59
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So how many teams ARE going to start?
They rejigged the points system so more places "pay", but without revaluing 1st versus second - 25-20 is the same ratio as 10-8, and if they end up with maybe only one more team than before, then the points reshuffle will have been - pointless.

Flyboy 04-03-2010 00:50
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I thought the whole exercise was pointless in the first place.

Pierre 04-03-2010 10:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matth (Post 34974215)
So how many teams ARE going to start?
They rejigged the points system so more places "pay", but without revaluing 1st versus second - 25-20 is the same ratio as 10-8, and if they end up with maybe only one more team than before, then the points reshuffle will have been - pointless.
According to the news this morning, there will be 12 teams in the grid at Bahrain

Kymmy 04-03-2010 10:38
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So that's everyone but USF1 then

mr_bo 04-03-2010 14:42
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New team Stefan GP have Formula 1 entry rejected

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8544246.stm

chris9991 04-03-2010 14:52
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They changed the points for second place to 18 in the end (originally was going to be 20)

Pierre 04-03-2010 17:46
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What I don't understand is why the sauber team are still called BMW Sauber, when it's powered by a ferrari engine and has a ferrari gear box???

If I was a BMW motorsport boss I'd be embarrassed to have my name on the team.

Turkey Machine 04-03-2010 17:58
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Technicality AFAIK. They've yet to find a title sponsor, and BMW are providing most of the infrastructure anyway with Hinwil.

fatmat8 07-03-2010 11:18
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can't wait . i shall be glued .

Kymmy 07-03-2010 11:53
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Remember everyone there's a seperate thread going on for you to predict your driver and team to win the F1 Drivers championship and constructors championship

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...river-you.html

Matty_ 08-03-2010 20:26
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Found this while browsing, think it`s quite nice...

Flyboy 08-03-2010 22:37
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You might want to post that in the "Plane spotter's" thread. ;)

Hom3r 08-03-2010 22:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 34976742)
Found this while browsing, think it`s quite nice...

Bernie's private jet I believe :D

Delta Whiskey 09-03-2010 12:00
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Spare a thought for Sir Stirling Moss who fell three storeys down a lift shaft last Saturday.

He broke both ankles and injured his spine in the accident, which happened when the lift doors in his gadget-filled home opened when they should have stayed shut.

http://unhub.com/Y2SO

Flyboy 10-03-2010 00:26
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Ouch!

Get well soon Sir Stirling.

hedgie 10-03-2010 12:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34974455)
What I don't understand is why the sauber team are still called BMW Sauber, when it's powered by a ferrari engine and has a ferrari gear box???

If I was a BMW motorsport boss I'd be embarrassed to have my name on the team.
Apparently the team applying for permission to change the name; this will be discussed in a meeting at Bahrain.

"There is talk of Sauber changing its name, which is entirely logical given the horribly messy BMW Sauber Ferrari tag which makes the teeth of branding specialists stand on end. I understand that there will be a Formula 1 Commission meeting to discuss the matters of the moment in Bahrain, so we will learn more about this and probably about the rules for 2011 as well."

Source Joe Saward; http://joesaward.wordpress.com/


Really Very Excited Now :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

Kymmy 12-03-2010 10:49
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First Practice times from Bahrain. Next practice is at 11:00 to 12:30 UK time

[times from the www.formula1.com website]

mr_bo 12-03-2010 11:06
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live feed on bbc

Kymmy 12-03-2010 11:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_bo (Post 34978898)
live feed on bbc
Meant t add that to my post but got distracted.. Thank you

:clap:

Matty_ 12-03-2010 12:45
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Top seven at the moment is five germans and three brits...

Kymmy 12-03-2010 13:01
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Very worrying is the tyre issues, They should have opened up the track to a lot of car clubs to lay down some rubber

Kymmy 12-03-2010 13:45
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Second practice is over and here's the times

[times from the www.formula1.com website]

Turkey Machine 12-03-2010 13:59
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That Virgin car looks like a real handful - understeer and oversteer, and very very twitchy. Clearly the testing hasn't helped..... :rolleyes:

chris9991 12-03-2010 14:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34979006)
That Virgin car looks like a real handful - understeer and oversteer, and very very twitchy. Clearly the testing hasn't helped..... :rolleyes:
What testing? I seem to recall it kept breaking and they had no spares

hedgie 12-03-2010 14:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 34979019)
What testing? I seem to recall it kept breaking and they had no spares
That sounds a tad harsh.......

I heard it was basically reliable but kept leaking fluid from the diff. It was a tolerance issue more than a failure as such.

Lets hope they get it up to speed 'cos it looks good.

chris9991 12-03-2010 14:57
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Sorry - It's what stood out in my memory. I know they're trying to put it together without using a wind tunnel so maybe that is contributing too.

Kymmy 13-03-2010 10:14
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Final practice times

[times from the www.formula1.com website]

Hamilton missed the last 20 minutes due to a brake duct failure.

hedgie 13-03-2010 10:18
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OK Next stop qually

So far;

Ferrari looking in control but, Mercedes are breathing down their neck.

Rosberg has had the beating of Schumacher so far; Is the old dog keeping his powder dry and about to blitz qually is or Rosberg REALLY on it. My prediction could be dead already ;)

Hulk faster the Rubens; Maybe age has caught up Barrichello ?

Virigin quicker than Lotus, but reliability an issue. The loose wheel in practice was down to incorrectly setting the torque on the wheel guns, that's careless and could them a big fine I suspect.

Looking good

rogerdraig 14-03-2010 14:50
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hmm not very exciting this

Stuart 14-03-2010 14:52
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I think Schumy did well, considering that buy his own admission, he is a little rusty, and his car seemed off the pace.

rogerdraig 14-03-2010 14:56
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he did but didnt make any less boring

if they dont change something they will see viewers drop

i have watched F1 since i was a lad ( lol ) and honestly if its going to be like that for the rest of the season i will be falling asleep

Jon T 14-03-2010 16:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34980146)
he did but didnt make any less boring

if they dont change something they will see viewers drop

i have watched F1 since i was a lad ( lol ) and honestly if its going to be like that for the rest of the season i will be falling asleep
Wouldn't change a word of that post.

They've changed rules, banned re-fuelling, introduced mew teams, and what's it done. The grand total of nothing.

Kymmy 14-03-2010 16:48
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I think it's hard to tell on a track like Bahrain, come Australia now that should show the changes to a greater extent.

Congrats to Alonso, Massa and Hamilton for 1st, 2nd and 3rd :clap:

colin25 14-03-2010 18:21
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I fell asleep after the start...though woke up to see the Vettel ending.

I think they should make drivers run 20 yards over an obstacle course..when they come in to change tyres...then start back in the race. That will add a bit of excitement :)

Matty_ 14-03-2010 19:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34980146)
he did but didnt make any less boring

if they dont change something they will see viewers drop

i have watched F1 since i was a lad ( lol ) and honestly if its going to be like that for the rest of the season i will be falling asleep
Gotta agree with this, it now seems like it will be more of a moving advertising spectacle than ever before. Completely void of any excitement, anticipation, unpredictability, etc, etc.

Iv`e given my view on re-fueling before so won`t again, after all the hype this reminded me of the saying
Quote:
Without mysteries, life would be very dull indeed. What would be left to strive for if everything where known?
I mean they didn`t much of on screen graphics to give you something to watch!

mr_bo 15-03-2010 09:58
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Well I am very disappointed in this, it was just a glorified procession with no real excitement.

F1 should be about wheel to wheel racing but if the drivers are forced to play the conservation game then the FIA have comprehensively stuffed this sport.

The drivers are forced to conserve their tyres but that was ok as they have always had to but they could risk it more by picking up a slip stream, use their skill to drive through the dirty air and be the last of the late braker’s to attempt a move as they knew they would pit 2/3 times a race, but now we saw Ferrari deliberately avoid this as they had to conserve their engines too as well as even more so their tyres.

All this crap about the points system with a larger gap between 1st and 2nd to encourage the drivers to go for the win won’t work if the 1st race of the season is anything to go by, all we will see is the pole sitter sprint away and possibly the championship wrapped up early in the season.

If this is the format of the season then bye bye F1 :td:

sherer 15-03-2010 16:02
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the thing is even during the refueling eras we still had a procession it's just with less stops there was less so called changes of position.

My main problem with F1 at the moment is all the computers and sensors they have on the cars. We see too often drivers checking what their team mate does and then learning they can brake later for a corner etc, or even worse the engineers who don't even drive the car tell a driver that due to the data they can brake later for a corner. I'm sure if you took that away you would get more of the human side back in F1 and that would help get more racing

Kymmy 15-03-2010 16:19
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The main problem is that the main teams are so adept at getting 99.9999% out of the technical specs and the drivers are 99.9999% clinical in thier driving that unless something goes wrong the procession is the end result.

It's not the FIA's fault that the teams and drivers are so good.. Probably the only way the FIA could go is to reduce the technology and technical involved (for example ban fuel injection, computers, remove spoilers/wings/diffusers, reduce the tyre contact patch and harden up the compounds..) Only then might you start getting some variance in not only cars but also driving techniques

Pierre 15-03-2010 17:53
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34980727)
(for example ban fuel injection, computers, remove spoilers/wings/diffusers, reduce the tyre contact patch and harden up the compounds..) Only then might you start getting some variance in not only cars but also driving techniques
I don't think using carbs would help, and they tried reducing tyre contact with grooved tyres and that didn't change a thing.

They should just strip the car of all electrical aids, get rid of the semi-automatic gear box's too.

They should reduce the amount of wing allowed too, and ban all these fancy wing diffusers that really churn the air up.

Drivers should be drivers, not passengers.

Kymmy 15-03-2010 18:18
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34980789)
I don't think using carbs would help, and they tried reducing tyre contact with grooved tyres and that didn't change a thing.

They should just strip the car of all electrical aids, get rid of the semi-automatic gear box's too.

They should reduce the amount of wing allowed too, and ban all these fancy wing diffusers that really churn the air up.

Drivers should be drivers, not passengers.
Fuel injection is an electrical aid ;)

mr_bo 15-03-2010 18:28
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http://www.sportinglife.com/others/n...Nightlead.html

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One possible quick fix is to introduce two mandatory pit stops, although F1's problems are more deep-rooted than that as the issue regarding a lack of overtaking has long been a thorny one.
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Another Ecclestone proposal, one he aired recently and has again revisited, is the possibility of creating short cuts at each track.
"A driver could use it so many times a race so that if he really gets stuck behind somebody he could still get past," said Ecclestone.
:omg: :nono: :nutter: :redcard:

Flyboy 15-03-2010 19:11
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Unfortunately, because Mrs Flyboy said something about something called "Mothers' Day," we went out. The disc was full and I only got the first half of the race. Does anyone know why it wasn't on catch-up?

Where did Hispania come from? I must have missed that announcement.

Jake Humphrey said that Q3 was a one lap session. I know I was a bit busy Saturday, but I could have sworn I saw them do more than one lap each.

Hom3r 15-03-2010 19:18
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They should bring back Turbos.

Mansell Honda williams could wheelspin in all 6 gears.

The main problem, is the cash restrictions that are imposed on the teams.

Jon T 15-03-2010 19:23
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34980856)
catch-up?

Where did Hispania come from? I must have missed that announcement.
Renamed team - formerly Campos Meta

Matty_ 15-03-2010 19:40
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Something that to me seems odd is that whenever i watch an Indy Car race, whether it be on an oval or `proper` track the action seems to be a lot better with the cars seeming to be able to travel close behind one another without it messing things up (and they still have rear wings, etc).
There is a lot more overtaking and it`s just generally more exciting as a whole package. Why can they get it right whereas Formula 1 chops and changes all the time with the promise of improved action which never comes to fruition.

At the moment the most iconic motorsport brand is being turned into an egomaniacs farce! :td:

sherer 15-03-2010 19:50
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Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 34980877)
Something that to me seems odd is that whenever i watch an Indy Car race, whether it be on an oval or `proper` track the action seems to be a lot better with the cars seeming to be able to travel close behind one another without it messing things up (and they still have rear wings, etc).
There is a lot more overtaking and it`s just generally more exciting as a whole package. Why can they get it right whereas Formula 1 chops and changes all the time with the promise of improved action which never comes to fruition.

At the moment the most iconic motorsport brand is being turned into an egomaniacs farce! :td:

An Indycar is less techneically advanced which helps a lot plus it is a one make series. They have less overall downforce but they also have ground effects they get get sucked to the road and don't have to rely so much on the wings

mr_bo 15-03-2010 21:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34980856)
Unfortunately, because Mrs Flyboy said something about something called "Mothers' Day," we went out. The disc was full and I only got the first half of the race. Does anyone know why it wasn't on catch-up?

I-Player :)

saabmania2 15-03-2010 22:09
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34980862)
They should bring back Turbos.

Mansell Honda williams could wheelspin in all 6 gears.

The main problem, is the cash restrictions that are imposed on the teams.
Hom3r,
wasn't mansells last car the FW14 one of the most technologically advanced cars in the world at the time and in some ways more advanced than the F1 cars of today?

but something needs to be done i think they should do away with telemitry?? not sure on the spelling, and alot of the driver aids semi auto gearboxes can be left as far as i'm concerned as i don't think they give a massive edge and all of them have them.
F1 is all about being the most advanced sport in the world but if it takes away the enjoyment from it then whats the point bring back the day of senna,prost, mansell even my fav Nikolaus Lauda (only cos i've met him!!)
those where the days of real racing drivers :cool:

rogerdraig 17-03-2010 00:15
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put more tyre changes in preferably bring back refuelling ( yes i know they designed these cars to go the distance )

standardise the rear wing ( that is give them all the same one ) maybe front one too


anything that makes it more interesting than this

will watch the next one to see if it is any better but if it isnt i might be going out on sundays and finding something more interesting instead ;)

Flyboy 17-03-2010 12:52
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The first race tends to be a bit of a quiet one. The teams are effectively still testing and don't want to take too many risks at the start of the season. I do hope that the rest of the season improves.

Kymmy 17-03-2010 15:04
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OMG... Bernie talking sense????

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“I had a meeting with the teams and tried to explain to them what our business is about — racing and entertaining the public, not about playing with computers and going fast over one lap. The problem is that you cannot really have teams in any shape or form having a part in the sporting or technical regulations. You cannot have the inmates writing the regulations.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle7062919.ece

Flyboy 17-03-2010 23:28
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But that doesn't mean that they should not be consulted.

rogerdraig 18-03-2010 21:32
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i hope some one consults with some one any one soon lol

i normally stay up or get up for the odd time ones but i wont be bothering if they dont start doing better soon

mr_bo 20-03-2010 13:07
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So who is going to be up @ 5am next week and who is going to record it?

I'll be up to watch it live :)

Hom3r 20-03-2010 14:11
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Originally Posted by mr_bo (Post 34983575)
So who is going to be up @ 5am next week and who is going to record it?

I'll be up to watch it live :)

Is that 5am GMT or 6am BST :spin:


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