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what do you make of Wayne Routledge. Saw a lot of him in his Palace days and never thought he was good enough to make the grade at Spurs or Villa. Don't really thing he's good enough for the Championship either

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To be honest, I don't think he was good enough for Palace, let along Spurs, Villa or Portsmouth. Simon Jordan got it right when he said that Routledge should have stayed at Palace for longer, as he'd probably have ended up a decent (although probably no more than that) player.

To be honest, I think Villa only bought him because we didn't do a lot transfer-wise in January. The fact that he's only made 2 first-team appearances since then pretty much tells you all you need to know, particularly when you take into account the fact that we had a tiny squad last season.

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agree there. It's amazing though that he has been at Spurs for 4 years, albeit with a few loan spells and now is at Villa. He's probably already a millionaire by now and he's a rubbish footballer who would struggle in League One.

One time at Palace within the first 5 mins of the game he was one on one with the keeper and got it wrong and the keeper took the ball off him. He spent the rest of the half going no where near the ball and had to be taken off 5 mins into the second half as he wouldn't touch the ball

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Media cover up?

Everybody reports:

Capello said: "I couldn't understand the crowd booing Ashley Cole after he made a mistake. It is possible for one player to make mistake. It is very important that the crowd help him and not boo him"

Here is the video:

http://www.itv.com/Sport/Football/Ne...n/default.html

Does he say Cashley Cole or twice...

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Media cover up or a slip of the tongue? I saw the Greece game...er I mean Kazakhstan and I don't think there was anything untoward going on, unless it was something easy to Miss.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

It was a a slip up but curiously it was not mentioned by the Media. Graeme Le Saux, in the panel was smiling about the slip up but it did not get a mention ;)

Otherwise :waving: :)

Cheers
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1849088.ece

I read this article on the sun website and couldn't believe how stupid a supposed chief sports writer for a national newspaper can be. I agree that Barton can not and never will be a role model for kids, but how on earth are Gerrard and Terry role models? Gerrard who makes sure his surgery only happens when he's supposed to be playing for England and who hands in a transfer request to his 'boyhood club' because he's looking for the big money move to Chelsea. John Terry who is a racist thug, that spits at players whilst shouting racial abuse, has fights with doormen, urinates on dancefloors, is supposedly injured for England then plays for his club a few days later, and the list goes on. Even Carragher retired from international football at a very early age and refused to go back into the squad when asked to. Are these really role models for kids?

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Does retiring from international football make you a bad role model. Didn't Carragher retire from English football because he didnt get picked (or he felt he could prolong his club career a little longer?)

Never heard of JT being a racist thug? Any examples? links? I'm not doubting you and I am genuinely interested in this.

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Maybe i'm wrong about Carragher, he is a good role model in that he is loyal to Liverpool, but he did retire early from England and when asked to return and play he refused.

John Terry - Shouted racist abuse at Ledly King in a match against Spurs, there's a lot of denial about this from him, but clearly happened from looking at the footage. He shouted racist abuse at Tevez whilst spitting at him in the Champions league final, again denied but is very clear. He's been in numerous brawls, one of the major ones reported was with Jodie Morris where he punched a bouncer in the face and broke his own hand in doing so. Also urinating on a dancefloor at Wright-Phillips party.

I wont link to any of these because obviously it's not clever with this being a family forum but you can easily find what i've been talking about.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I personally dont think JT is a decent role model and to be honest I feel there are very few role models in footy. My faves have been Solskaar and Berkamp.

I was very suprised about the racist thing but isn't it a common thing (im not condoning it - i think racism is disgusting) in football where players make racist comments to each other and deny they are racist because they have black friends and team mates.

Didnt Schmiechal call Wright a black so and so? And I thought he was a pretty decent chap.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I think he did, sometimes it happens in the heat of the moment and things are said that aren't really meant, but it's happened on a few occassions with John Terry and for this sports writer to call him a role model is a ridiculous thing to say in my opinion.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I think it was more to do with the crazy phase Chelsea went through around 2005 just after Roman took over and they thought they were on a higher plane to the rest of us - they were just about out of control and appeared to act as if the rules didn't apply to them, like when Jose was using that headset when he was up in the stand and hide in a kit bag etc

As for role models, as much as it pains me to say this, I've always admired the professionalism of Thierry Henry.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I heard the things about Terry, before he broke into the Chelsea team he had that incidident in the club in London where he punched the bouncer and they almost sold him there and then.

Very few footballers are good role models

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Spurs sack Ramos.......

Levy is after Redknapp to take over

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7691457.stm

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http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news...nt251008a.html

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Hmmmm And just 10 months ago.........

Redknapp rejects Newcastle offer

Not that much loyalty though, eh Harry. ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Its all confirmed now. Still in a bit of shock about it.

Don't know what to make of it yet, but it at least it will be a laugh. I look forward to his interviews.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Didn't he leave Portsmouth for Southampton and then return? Where was it then?

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Redknapp now has the job, please don't save them Harry!

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After all Spuds went through to get Ramos, what a joke that club is.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

think the mistake that spurs made was sacking Jol.... he was a good manager and did keep them in the top 6 really.

its a shame for Pompey that Harry is leaving as he is a really good manager/tactician and bargain hunter.

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Where was the clubs loyalty to him when they undermined him by appointing a director of football against his wishes? Oh and btw the club were only to glad to let Harry go

It was a lot of money - I think £5m, crazy money really. Pompey couldn't sell a player in the [transfer] window so we sell the manager."

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http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/article53198.ece

Highly doubtful but imagine if it happened.......

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Which makes him a hypocrite then, as he started his Portmouth career as Director of football. I wonder if that was against Graham Rix' wishes?

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I'd love to know how the United fans feel if it did happen. All those years of calling him talentless and saying it was Uncle Roman's gazillions that brought Chelski success and not Jose.

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If Rix felt that strongly about it he could have resigned, you don't know what went on behind the scenes, perhaps Rix welcomed the appointment, it's up to you I guess but it might be an idea if you knew the facts before branding people a hypocrite :shrug:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I don't think anyone has called him talentless. As for their success I think you've missed the point - while he is a very talented manager, would he have ended up there without Roman taking over in the first place?

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

And neither do you.


Redknapp joined Portsmouth as director of football - FACT

Redknapp doesn't like being under a director of football - FACT

Seems to me, the bloke has a serious 'God' complex.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Uhhh not this thread TOO......

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Not to worry there Russ, I'm a live and let live kind of person. It was a figure of speech. :)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Sorry Russ he is a god round here...and the fans,hubby included are going to be really disappointed at his going..and there will be bitterness about it. :erm:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

No but then it isn't me calling people names is it

And a lot of younger managers are coaches these days and are quite happy to have a director of football, the older one's aren't, seems reasonable to me to quit if you are unhappy with the way the club is being run

Seems to me like you haven't got a clue what you are talking about here but there you go :shrug:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

at least its better then going to S'hampton.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Well, we weren't talking about other managers, were we? We were talking about Redknapp. But, as you mentioned it, I'll indulge.....

There is a big difference between younger managers and Redknapp. Younger managers are just starting out, and will do what they are told. If a younger manager even tried to have a say on who they will, or won't work with, they would soon be black marked as being a trouble causer. Redknapp is a seasoned pro, and has been relatively successful in his career. Which put's him in a much better situation than a younger manager, as he can make certain demands from directors, without it damaging his career. A young, inexperienced manager can not have that kind of freedom.



It's entirely possible that I've forgotten more about football than you will ever know about, so wind that neck back in. :cool:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Did JM not win the European Cup with a rather unfancied Porto side then?

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Yeah, he's good.

I wonder if Roman mentioned the millions which would be made available to him when offering him the job....

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Spurs win their first match of the season

:cleader::cleader::cleader::cleader:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

yeah shocking Hom3R ;)

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Bring on Tottenham on Wednesday!

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Your right lets get back to Harry, if you remember at the time he first left Pompy there was talk of changes being made to the staff, Jim Smith and Kevin Bond being sacked, he said if they go I go, hardly some one displaying a lack of loyalty eh and he said it again when a new director of football was appointed with responsibility for youth set up, for some one who has been responsible for the emergence of so much young English talent, I think that is a complete slap in the face

Roy Keane has complete control, Ince has it, Southgate has it, even ones with no real experience like Boothroyd have it etc etc Some want to coach and not get involved with the day to day running and any chairman able to dominate the manager like that really should think whether they have the right manager in charge imo

From what I've seen so far, that's unlikely :p:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Gallas (unlit), Van Persie, Rio (weed), Rooney, Berbatov are all smokers. Anymore?


[offensive remarks removed]

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Wash your mouth out with soap young man... Don't you know, Man U fans know everything there is to know about football!

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Rumours that Becks is coming to White Heart Lane (today papers)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

RVP smokes weed?:confused:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

That's quite old news methinks LINKY :)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

If I want to know about Redknapps loyalty, I'll ask someone who's in a good position to give me an honest answer. Someone like Billy Bonds for example. ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

No real surprise... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/7681948.stm

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I am glad that you have finally realised that fact ;)

Now are we going to discuss football or carry on bickering? ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

That'll be Harry who offered to resign when Bonzo did

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Carry on bickering of course .........

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

No he didn't, he offered to resign after he'd been appointed as Bonds replacement. Probably a token gesture anyway, just to get the fans off his case. Plenty of west ham fans still hold that against Redknapp, have a look over on kumb.com and see for yourself. The fact he's now gone to Spurs had added fuel to the bonfire, from what I've been reading.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I know there is a lot of resentment, you should have heard it on Sunday, I think it's a shame personally and to my knowledge Billy has never said a word about why he left, if he was stitched up it goes to show the character of the man really.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Agree with you on that one. He could have made thing very uncomfortable for Redknapp, but chose not to. Just shows the measure of the man. :tu:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Maradona is the new Argentina manager!

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

:rofl:

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Good way to motivate Tottenham ;)

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Hey I think it's working :D

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Sounds like they actually did field their ladies team towards the end of the match :D

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Can't believe we didn't just keep hold of the ball at 4 - 2, feels like we lost!

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Could have seen goal of the season already, if anyone scores a better goal than Bentley's opener it will be some goal.

One of the most enjoyable sights in football, Wenger & Gallas with a 'cob on' :D

Jim.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Kudos to Harry - there aren't many teams who can concede 4 goals against Arsenal at the Emerates and still not lose.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Tottenham 2-1 Liverpool

We're of the bottom.

:cleader::cleader::cleader::cleader:

The only way is up.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Well, That was the case! But now you go down as well :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Nah, we're gonna win the Premiership now:D

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I'm no Spurs fan but it's always pleasing when the scousers lose :)

Very impressive work so far by Rednapp!

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I am a yido, and my god, that was some game, Harry the magican again, l honestly thought that is was going to end in a draw, but when that goal went in, all my family, jumped up and we went mad, we won't go down, l can see in the transfer window, Harry will bring in a couple of strikers, Bent and Shenco need help up front, this time Daniel Levy, you have pulled off a master stroke, and it has worked.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Why was Toure celebrating Stoke's first goal for? ;)

Great ball control for Stoke's second goal...

...Van Persil lead the charge superbly...

...and when will Utd learn that they have to play the whole 90 mins?

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Now let's just hope Bolton and Newcastle win so Tottenham can be bottom again =)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I can't believe that one player could bring down a football club :rolleyes:

Nothing to do with Ramos then.. :rolleyes:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...443462,00.html

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

If they had sold him when he requested to leave instead of being greedy and holding out for more money none of that would have happened, if anyones to blame it's Levy for not selling him sooner.

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It would be funny :D

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I kinda like spurs though... and i hate Bolton cos of their manager.

I still can't believe the end of the Derby vs Forest game though. :o

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Being a yido, please let me clear one thing up concerning Berba, the *******, and Ramos.

It was quite clear from statements, that l read and the strong rumour, that was at The Lane, Berba, was not selected as his attitude at Spurs stank, we have always been known as an attacking side, and we wanted to see the back of him, he was poor on the pitch, and of course his partnership with Keano, produced some great wins, we knew from the previous transfer window, he wanted to go, so why Spurs didn't let him go as Utd, wanted him on the cheap, Ramos could never understand him, and that is why he wasn't selected, look at him now, at United, l just feel sorry for him when he returns to WHL, the fans will rip him to pieces.

Spurs, have always been great to past players, but not the way Keano went or Berba, at the moment the great players of the past ARE still welcome at WHL, Chivers, Jennings etc, and now we have Harry the magican, it will be a tough season, and we won't go down.:), I just hope Newcastle lose, on Monday.:D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Is Sol Campbell still welcome at Spurs then?

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Well, your hope came true ;) Though it was good to see Newcastle on the bottom, even for a day.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

:tu:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

"Nigerian anger at Newcastle snub"



ROFL. OK, so it's allegedly real, but I still have visions of a 419-style letter to Ashley...

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

only one team in the race this year...

www.mfc.co.uk :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

You're not the former mod are you?

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lol... many years ago..couldn't log into my account so set new one up.. (hope its ok)

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Well the modified name and being proud of Boro gave it away ;)

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cheeky git:p:

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So, the Scousers get the most appalling penalty decision in their favour then Gerrard has the nerve to say that they deserved it for they way they played. :rolleyes:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

If that had been Ronaldo winning that penalty for United we wouldn't have heard the end of it but because it was Gerrard and Liverpool it's okay.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

A good defensive display from the Goons today. I wonder if we will see any "new" or rare people post in here today? ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

woohoo thats manure sunk

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Are you suggesting that Arsenal fans are fickle? :scratch: I don't believe a word of it.

Ah well, I take it all back. ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

It didn't take long for the first goon fan to show ;)

We never see them all year and they win one game...

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Bolt ya rocket! :mad:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Well that's Arsenal's one and only highlight of the season out of the way :)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

A few more to come;)

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Don't be silly!! This is Arsenal we're talking about!

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nah that will come on the 16th of may when we lift the trophy at Old Trafford :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Haven't you guys been saying that for about 4 years now? No not just about winning the premiership, I mean about winning....anything? I mean, as a bible basher I know all about 'blind faith' etc... ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

UTD sunk, classic, we where sunk last year and the year before as well. It will be back to UTD fans are arrogant when we are back come May giving it some. Arsenal are just the latest in a long line of teams that have and will benefit from arguably the best strike force in Europe, for some unknown reason, only bagging a goal per 10 created, it's an enigma. Arsenal played well today tbh, another wannabe big team that raises their game when a real big team arrives in town ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I watched this in a pub in Nottingham with my mates. There was a mouthy Gunners supporter behind us, and I said to my mate "if United get a draw out of this, I'm buying him a pint, just to shut him up". As it happened, that never occured, and he was still mouthy. Good game though, smiled when Nasri got his second since that was a wicked deflection and otherwise heading straight for the goalie. Rafael's goal was a peach though. Shame Rooney or Ronaldo, or even Walcott couldn't do anything similar to it. And Utd have a game in hand on the top 4, so things could turn faster yet!

I look forward to the rematch at the Theatre of Dreams in a few months time. :)

The only thing Arsenal will probably be close to winning this season is the Carling Cup or the FA Cup. The strike force is far too young to be up against anything as good as Utd's defence in the Premiership or Europe *consistently* (i.e over the whole season), and I wouldn't be surprised to find Arsenal 4th this year. Heck, they even lost to Stoke of all teams, and they're mid-table! Think it's Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Utd challenging for the title, Utd by a couple of points at the last.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Burnley beat chelsea :D:D:D

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And the Scousers lost too :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

dont mind bout the scousers... more chuffed about chel$ea :D

burnley the giant killers :D

also Manure made some hard work of it against QPR.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

LMAO! Chelsea and Liverpool out of the league cup. Serves them right for chucking out "youth" teams against determined opposition.

The BBC text for the Tottenham vs Liverpool game was hilarious to read though, the writer was getting so exasperated with various players including Gomes. :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

They often are. Gomes is rubbish anyway, Robinson is much better. No idea why they decided he was an improvement.

I think Jonathan Stevenson, who often does them, is a Forest fan...

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Are Cudicini, Alex, Belletti, Lampard, Bridge, Ferreira, Deco, Mikel, Malouda, Drogba and Kalou Chelsea's youth team? :confused: :p: