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Ohhhhh :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd:

One thing then:

LEAVE ME OUT OF IT! :D

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the majority of us can discuss for what we believe in or believe is right.

but when people constantly try and argue against you for the hell of it and just to disrupt forums known as 'trolling' this is wrong, its a minority.

i believe the vast majority on here are sensible.

and i dont think we should let the minority spoil the fun in creating 'lively' debates.

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But there is ALWAYS ONE person to make the lively debate either a war, or a battle. And that's when it gets a bit nasty.

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:erm: I thought I was lucid.

Current Affairs is an area of troll speciality - plenty of material for them to work with. It's also fertile ground for the development of long running feuds and disputes; an area where people who once got along suddenly find themselves arguing hotly over something totally pointless - all perspective having been lost in the heat of battle. I look down the thread listing and I cringe - I see arguments waiting to happen and I hear the trolls hopping with glee. Why do you think I largely stay out of it? :)

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Sorry for being the bumb-ass but what does lucid mean?

Come on, there are younger guys here, like me I'm only 16!!

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i think your missing the point of a discussion forum, its here to discuss issues or introduce help, knowledge and a community aspect which this site has gained.

current affairs is a place where discussion of 'topical news' can be discussed you abide by the sites conditions, the moderators advice, if you cannot be sensible about it then you are banned.

the majority in my view want to discuss and debate sensibly, not have people who object to everything for the hell of it.

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See how an argument is developing? :D

I haven't missed the point - it's not about the point. Discussion forums are designed for discussion but more often than not they are argument and troll forums. It's about the difference between design (the point) and use. My comments on forums are restricted to Current Affairs forums because, as I said, this area of "discussion" is always the most contentious, which is why I avoid it.

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:p: stop being pedantic :p:

we cant all have it one way, where everyone agrees on the same thing, what would the point of that be ?

i personally prefer to discuss issues that affect the world, affect people, and so forth, but while not everyone will agree with everyone thats life, you have to engage in a structure of accepting views and drawing upon them to show your views forum rules, moderators, play the rest out.

if you cannot adhere to it then inevitibly you will not last long on a current affairs forum.

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I agree, but the skill of debating with self-control and moderation (which is what you're describing) is sadly lacking in most people. All too often it starts out pleasant enough and quickly degrades into little more than a slanging match in which all perspective has been lost and opposing sides are trying to win the argument at all costs. It becomes personal. All very ugly.

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John unfortunately you cant live your life without being involved in some form of confrontation, thats one thing this forum has taught me! :disturbd: Now I just muck in, however I posted the troll warning poster in the other thread because I hate the thought of trolls taking over the board and I hoped it'd help disperse any brewing flame war. How wrong can you be! :(

As for trolling mainly being kept to the current affairs board, Jerrek was never bothered by the boundary's of the forum and he's stir in any section! :rolleyes:

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yes it is, and i agree however that is why there are rules and moderators, to ensure others dont get 'heated'


i would say 90% of the time its not the case, there is a diffarence between being objective constructive to trolling and ignorance.

it does not have to be personal, there is a fine line, the pettyness is resolved usally.

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Sort of true, yes - I think there's lots you can do to avoid confrontation and prevent confrontations escalating, but sometimes people are bent on conflict. I tend to rise above things. It's not important.

Trolling and arguments do occur elsewhere but there's an awful lot of shi.. manure on CA forums - good for troll growth :D The moderators are very good at weeding out the trolls, so I think we're reasonably safe.

My one vice <bows head in shame> is troll bating. I just can't help myself sometimes :p:

[edit] Thank you Kronas for being so idealistic and hopeful in the face of my world-weary pessimism.

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if you trackback to reality, not everyone agrees with you in what you say when you are face to face with someone, i have clashed with people many times about religion, i let them have their say, put their point of view across, and then show mine, we agree to disagree, sometimes as you say conflict is what people want, but in reality we are are all free to share our discontent at something.



i just think that when people can contribute and feel they cant because it WILL get personal all the time is wrong, things get a little heated, its the passion that creates a good thread hence the friction, but personal attacks and such are dealt with in accordance of the rules by the site mods.

:)

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I tend to agree with always being one person LOL, but back on topic if what im reading is right then the laws which stand should fall into place and normal procedures done which are there.


Fact of matter applies though even after court etc is that it happened :dozey: no amount of consuelling will ever sort out that problem.

Methods should not just be in place to deal with aftermath but to help prevent such a thing from happening.

Although doing the above thing would be a feat untold :rolleyes:

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Personally I think it a shame Jerrek was banned :erm:

It takes two to argue, if you don't like his opinions just ignore them and don't rise to his bait. :rolleyes:

Personally (again) I quite like trolls...they can be fun to wind up and watch them explode ! :D

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Actually, while I think he probably deserves it, I do think it's a shame that he has been banned as when he is being sensibile, he can produce interesting posts.

For what it's worth, he (well, somebody under the name Jerrak with the same avatar & style of posting) was banned from another forum I visit from time to time, off-topic central, so this probably isn't the first time.

Now, back on topic. The second article says that the act took place on July the 18th, but doesn't actually specify what year. Knowing how slow our legal system is, I don't believe it's this year (I know someone who was "glassed" in a pub, and it took the police over a year to get the case to court). Having said that, I could be wrong. Depending on when the act took place, it could be statutory rape (although that's doubtful, even with our legal system I shouldn't think it takes two years to get to court).

One final question on the topic of incest: Do Animals have sex with their mothers? If Nature doesn't allow something to happen, there is usually a good reason.

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I did see in passing an article that this is the case on the web recently. Unfortunately, putting the relevant search terms into Google came up with a bunch of links that I`m certainly not going even going to have anyone walk past my computer and see that search screen open.

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:notopic: Me too. Is the ban permanent? :(

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I think that ther person who will come out worse in this will be the 18 year old lad.

Just think what his "mates" are going to say about him now..
A reputation never to be forgotten.

eeeewwww, it makes my skin crawl, just thinking of it.

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Hopefully :D

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Hope it's not permanent, he can provide some good contributions most of the time, though was getting very wound up in this thread.

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Jerrek won't be returning...which takes this off topic so on with the show please? :)

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Yes they do.
And their daughters, brothers, sisters, fathers, grandparents.
felines, rodents, primates, are a few that spring to mind.

And I would not advise searching on google for it! :Yikes:

Take hareem like groups, deer or lions or gorillas where you have an alpha male.
He's the only one allowed to reproduce out of the males, so all the offspring are his children. The females grow up and get added to the hareem.

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As it's off topic, you have PM.

ADDENDUM: However I would also like to state publicly that I hope the ban will not be permanent.

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As mentioned previously, *we* certainly make inbreeding happen in animals.

Some googling (with careful word choices of "natural history animal inbreeding" to avoid the more "lurid" sites! :eek: ) gives...

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Down to one last population, the remaining animals were reduced even further to perhaps a dozen or even fewer individuals.

By some amazing stroke of luck these hardy few survived and reproduced to reverse the tide of fortune. By now, though, the damage had been done. The last few of the species had very little genetic variety which has not increased much since their numbers recovered.

http://www.junglephotos.com/africa/a...tnathist.shtml

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Presently, koalas suffer from habitat depletion that is the result of human development. As their habitats shrink, problems with inbreeding and an increased spread of disease occurs.

http://www.seaworld.org/animalbytes/koalaab.html

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... amongst others, so it seems that inbreeding does definitely take place in the wild.

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Fair enough. Just thought it could be an interesting point to bring to the debate..

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hmm .. the dangers of inbreeding? http://home.hiwaay.net/~pcasteel/aubfamily.html :D

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bifta, absolutely fantastic :rofl: :rofl:

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:LOL: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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I saw this thread several days ago and knew instantly that it was not for me, only stumbled in here to find out why jerrek was banned....Big mistake.:tired:

Edit. Stumbling in was the mistake, although I found Jerrek to be an interesting ;) member.