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daveeb

12-06-2018 16:43

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35950215)

It’s great that this could be happening.

However, don’t forget one of them has previous in leaving treaties he doesn’t like...

A treaty with many more specifics in than this one as well.

Maggy

12-06-2018 17:17

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I love the Daily Mail's headline that this is the summit of the century..it's only 18 years old.Plenty of time for other summits. :D

Hugh	12-06-2018 18:45

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What’s the difference between this and the 2005 agreement? (besides the photo-opportunity)

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

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September 19, 2005: The participants in the six-party talks conclude a joint statement of principles to guide future negotiations.

According to the statement, North Korea commits “to abandoning all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programs and returning, at an early date, to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and to IAEA safeguards.” It also calls for the 1992 Joint Declaration of the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, which forbids the two Koreas from possessing uranium-enrichment and plutonium-separation facilities, to be “observed and implemented.” Washington affirms in the statement that it has no intention to attack or invade North Korea.

The statement commits the participants to achieving “the verifiable denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula in a peaceful manner” and says that the parties agree “to take coordinated steps to implement” the agreed-upon obligations and rewards “in a phased manner in line with the principle of ‘commitment for commitment, action for action.’”

Damien

12-06-2018 19:20

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Trump should wait before offering concessions until he gets something in return.

Mr K	12-06-2018 21:19

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35950323)

Trump should wait before offering concessions until he gets something in return.

TV pictures and adoration is all Trump wants.

Hugh	12-06-2018 21:41

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:D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1528836057

1andrew1

12-06-2018 22:03

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35950333)

TV pictures and adoration is all Trump wants.

Why's he not on this forum then? He'd certainly get the latter from a few quarters. :D

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35950337)

:D:D:D

Hugh	13-06-2018 07:56

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North Korean State media are saying that Trump has agreed to lift sanctions.

https://news.sky.com/story/confusion...tions-11403122

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North Korea's state media has reported that Donald Trump has "expressed his intention" to lift crippling sanctions against the country - despite the US president saying that they will remain until "nukes are no longer a factor".

Donald Trump met Kim Jong Un for a historic summit at a luxurious Singapore hotel on Tuesday, with both leaders signing a deal regarding the "complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula".

But it had always been Mr Kim's goal to rid his country of US sanctions and, according to the state-run KCNA news agency, that is exactly what he achieved.

Following the "meeting of the century", KCNA said Mr Trump had agreed to lift sanctions as relations improve, as well as halt US-South Korea military exercises and offer security guarantees.

Hugh	13-06-2018 17:26

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I think it may be a little early to be claiming there is no longer a nuclear threat, considering NK still have their nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1528907139

Damien

13-06-2018 17:54

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Also while I support the idea of peace talks North Korea are a horrible regime that kills thousands of their own citizens so being quite so complementary of them before they’ve conceded anything is a bit OTT

Chloé Palmas

13-06-2018 17:55

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35950357)

North Korean State media are saying that Trump has agreed to lift sanctions.

If Trump did agree to that (though I doubt it given that Trump is likely to have said he has only to renege on it) then there is hope for May yet that she could get a deal out of Trump - though whether she has the diplomatic prowess as Kim Jong Un, who knows. (No I don't think anything of him, just that little of her).

ianch99

13-06-2018 19:23

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35950423)

I regard Mrs May in much higher regard than a murderous dictator ...

1andrew1

13-06-2018 19:46

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35950450)

I regard Mrs May in much higher regard than a murderous dictator ...

I'm no fan of Therese May but I hold her in higher regard than those two men put together.

Hugh	15-06-2018 11:09

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You may think that, I couldn't possibly comment...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1529057321

Chloé Palmas

15-06-2018 19:24

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In regards to May vs Kim...I don't see May as doing anything near as vile / evil as Kim.

When it comes to negotiating though, Kim has gotten Trump to meet him, talk about his requests and gain sanctions relief.

May can't even get a face to face with him, at a conference.

He sees May as a little child.

TheDaddy

15-06-2018 20:11

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35950695)

Perhaps he sees Kim standing on a pile of bodies to meet him as a sign of respect, thedonald is a conviction politician after all, as in if you work for him you'll end up with a conviction

Hugh	16-06-2018 11:14

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I asked my North Korean friend what it was like living there.

He said he couldn't complain...

Hugh	28-06-2018 08:05

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http://thehill.com/policy/internatio...earch-facility

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Satellite images from last week show that North Korea is making numerous improvements to the infrastructure at a nuclear research facility, according to a new study.

The images, obtained by North Korea analysis outlet 38 North, come just weeks after President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un signed an agreement that called for a denuclearized Korean Peninsula.

The satellite photos indicate that North Korea is quickly progressing on several adjustments to the Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center.

The improvements include a new cooling water pump house, multiple new buildings, completed construction on a cooling water reservoir and an apparently active radiochemical laboratory. It is unclear whether the reactor is still in operation, the report said.

Hugh	30-06-2018 17:23

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https://amp.businessinsider.com/nort...rt-says-2018-6

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US reportedly has 'unequivocal evidence' that North Korea is 'trying to deceive' Trump with secret sites and nuclear-fuel production

A classified intelligence assessment revealed that in recent months, North Korea had upped its production of fuel for nuclear weapons at several secret sites.

US officials said they believe North Korean leader Kim Jong Un may be trying to conceal the secret facilities.

"There is absolutely unequivocal evidence that they are trying to deceive the US," one US official said, according to NBC News.

Chloé Palmas

02-07-2018 03:12

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Yeah I read that the other day...but, he is due to nominate a replacement for Kennedy on the bench and I don't want anything to mess that up so I would rather all looks good and well on planet Trump to the rest of us for now.

This was what I read:

https://news.sky.com/story/north-kor...eases-11421572

For the most part I don't care if Trump looks the fool but for now, I want him to focus on getting the right judge so that we don't end up with another Souter / Sandra Day / Kennedy situation and have a judge who is okay with abortion.

So for now, Kim can go play Trump for all I care and I won't say anything to draw attention to it, for now. After that justice has been confirmed it'll make Trump look all the more stupid, so I guess I would bring it up then.

ianch99

02-07-2018 19:25

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35952607)

Hate to disappoint but I don't think if you dis Trump here, it will affect his decision re: the SC :)

Chloé Palmas

02-07-2018 19:43

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Yeah, I think too much of myself - though my general mentality is "shhhh, we're going to get a pro life judge in to overturn Roe".

Hugh	18-07-2018 10:47

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/07/4.jpg

pip08456

12-08-2018 00:14

North Korea

I suppose if it you accept CNN as a Viable source.

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The US has made repeated proposals to North Korea on denuclearization, all of which have been rejected, according to senior diplomatic sources.
The United States has made, and continues to make, "specific proposals for starting and proceeding to the end point of fully verified denuclearization," including a timeline, these sources say.
North Korea has rejected all of these proposals, considering them "gangster-like," one of the sources said.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/10/p...ion/index.html

Hugh	24-08-2018 20:09

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...nuclearization

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President Trump announced on Twitter Friday that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s trip to North Korea next week has been postponed. “I have asked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo not to go to North Korea, at this time, because I feel we are not making sufficient progress with respect to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula,” he wrote.

Chloé Palmas

24-08-2018 20:43

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I am glad that Kim returned whatever remains he had of Soldiers through the Korean war. It looks like Trump is trying to get whatever he can out of Kim before offering even the first hint of Sanctions relief.

Hugh	24-08-2018 21:01

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35961224)

I hope that the recently returned remains can be identified and give peace to their families, but this programme had originally started in 1996, when North Korea and the US conducted joint operations to recover the remains of US soldiers, but ended in 2005 when their relations soured as Pyongyang accelerated its nuclear programme.

Hugh	06-12-2018 13:19

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/report...n-new-facility

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North Korea has “significantly expanded” a long-range missile base and started construction on a new facility even after President Kim Jong Un met with President Donald Trump in Singapore over the summer, experts said Wednesday, citing new satellite images. The images, released to CNN by researchers at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, reportedly show that the Yeongjeo-dong missile base and another previously unreported site “remain active and have been continuously upgraded.” In the past year, North Korea has “significantly expanded a nearby facility that appears to be another missile base,” the report from Middlebury Institute stated. Construction on the new facility appears to have occurred during the Singapore Summit between Kim and Trump, according to the report, which estimates that the “underground facility” started development in 2017 and was still under construction as of August 2018.

Maggy

06-03-2019 08:55

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35974079)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report...n-new-facility

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/w...g-news&ref=cta

So where exactly are the negotiations at this point I wonder?Was the cut short recent meeting a staged one while the real discussions take place out of sight?

Maggy

22-03-2019 20:41

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47674761#

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US President Donald Trump says he has ordered the withdrawal of recently imposed sanctions against North Korea.

In a tweet on Friday, Mr Trump referred to "additional large-scale sanctions" by the US Treasury that had been added to already existing restrictions.

It was not immediately clear which measures he was referring to.

However on Thursday, the US Treasury blacklisted two China-based shipping companies for reportedly violating sanctions against North Korea.

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White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders did not elaborate on which sanctions were being referred to by the president.

However, she added: "President Trump likes Chairman Kim [Jong-un] and he doesn't think these sanctions will be necessary."

Now I'm really confused.

Hugh	22-03-2019 22:18

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Administration officials are confused about the meaning of President Trump’s sanctions tweet, per @kylieatwood. The Treasury Department penalized two Chinese companies yesterday for helping NK evade sanctions, but those were neither new sanctions, nor were they announced today.

1andrew1

23-03-2019 07:09

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Maybe Trump's post was nothing more than a poorly-executed attempt to dilute discussion from the Mueller Report being filed?

Hugh	10-10-2020 17:11

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But of a bump...

https://news.sky.com/story/north-kor...party-12100665

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North Korea has shown off what is thought to be a new intercontinental ballistic missile during an early morning military parade, according to analysts.

The event took place before dawn in the secretive country, and was later broadcast there as well as in South Korea.

Edited footage from the parade, which was used to mark the 75th anniversary of the country's ruling party, shows a 22-wheeled transporter carrying the apparently new weaponry - thought to be larger than anything previously displayed by the country.

Also on display was the Hwasong-15, the longest-range missile the country has ever tested, and what is thought to be a new submarine-launched ballistic missile.

OLD BOY

12-10-2020 16:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36053247)

But of a bump...

https://news.sky.com/story/north-kor...party-12100665

So the mad rocket man is at it again. He has convinced himself that North Korea is bigger and better than the US.

I suspect a Christmas present he wasn’t expecting may be in prospect...

1andrew1

12-10-2020 17:20

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36053247)

But of a bump...

https://news.sky.com/story/north-kor...party-12100665

Will be interesting to see Biden's approach with North Korea next month.

OLD BOY

12-10-2020 17:31

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36053419)

Will be interesting to see Biden's approach with North Korea next month.

Oh,my God, we’d all be screwed if he got in!

papa smurf

12-10-2020 17:38

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36053420)

Oh,my God, we’d all be screwed if he got in!

Yea expect an inbound ballistic missile.

1andrew1

12-10-2020 17:54

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36053420)

Oh,my God, we’d all be screwed if he got in!

No ifs Old Boy, when he gets in.

Not even the endorsement of Johnny Rotten can help Trump get ahead of Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-2020-election

OLD BOY

13-10-2020 07:30

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36053423)

No ifs Old Boy, when he gets in.

Not even the endorsement of Johnny Rotten can help Trump get ahead of Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-2020-election

Some said that about Corbyn! Some even said that about Swinson.....

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