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denphone 03-12-2018 10:19

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35973536)
A bit better more like, how that man has had so many jobs is beyond me, let's hope this was his last

But the trouble is they have adopted the policy of changing their manager all the time these past few years unlike before where managers were given more time to develop the squad and bring on some of their young players.

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35973538)
All the fuss made of the supposed success of Fergies acolytes, a run of the mill bunch of managers at best.:(

So you were never convinced then of the usual hype that surrounds ex players becoming managers.;)

TheDaddy 03-12-2018 10:25

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35973541)
But the trouble is they have adopted the policy of changing their manager all the time these past few years unlike before where managers were given more time to develop the squad and bring on some of their young players.

It never works, Wimbledon used to sell their best player every year same as Southampton and sooner or later it catches up with you, they were quick to take the plaudits for this strategy but I think I even posted a couple of years back it would only end in disaster and the thing with young players is that there isn't a never ending flow of them, if you're lucky enough to be blessed with a good crop make the most of them because they won't last forever

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35973538)
All the fuss made of the supposed success of Fergies acolytes, a run of the mill bunch of managers at best.:(

I was hoping captain marvel would make it :(

iadom 03-12-2018 12:02

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35973543)

I was hoping captain marvel would make it :(

Probably couldn’t handle the booze as well as SFA. ;)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35973541)

So you were never convinced then of the usual hype that surrounds ex players becoming managers.;)

Some top class managers have been ex players and only a small number who never played at a decent level have made it to the highest rank of managers, so on balance having played the game does help.

adzii_nufc 05-12-2018 06:16

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Peter Kenyon is heading the US consortium currently in talks with Mike Ashley. Although the telegraph believes he's one of two solid parties with a third now just entering the frame. The second again is a US billionaire and the third they suspect is a Turkish media group. Unsure on what the deal is with Kenyon other than what Ashley said on Sky, it's at an advanced stage. The other US party is supposedly willing to pay 300 million outright and the Turkish connection is very early if it even exists.

Its the January window soon though. Another Ashley curtain for when he inevitably spends nothing in January and can fall back on blaming takeover deals that didn't go through.

denphone 05-12-2018 07:37

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Have we not seen this all before adzii..

adzii_nufc 05-12-2018 08:03

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Seems Kenyon and Rockefeller Capital are going ahead in pursuing a deal. Just seems like we're at Staveley again. Ashley's claims that they're more advanced than ever could merely be a January window blanket.

denphone 05-12-2018 08:20

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35973888)
Seems Kenyon and Rockefeller Capital are going ahead in pursuing a deal. Just seems like we're at Staveley again. Ashley's claims that they're more advanced than ever could merely be a January window blanket.

l think you could well be right as most Newcastle supporters take what Ashley says now with a pinch of salt.

adzii_nufc 05-12-2018 11:58

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Seems there's truth in it. Fourth party launches a 300 million takeover. Surely 1 out of four can get this done.

Updates are coming in from the guardian who are now stating a middle eastern group are in contact. Could be Staveley round two.

However they're now reporting that Kenyon has proved the funding and its very likely if any deal does progress it'll be that. Staff and Lee Charnley have been told to expect a takeover of the club, likely meaning Charnley will be sacked/replaced immediately as well as other staff. Claims that Kenyon himself will assume Charnleys role at the club.

The Newcastle United-Everton joint protest and future boycotts have been called off now.

adzii_nufc 05-12-2018 16:55

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Peter Kenyon and Rockefeller Capital have been granted access to Newcastle's accounts. The same stage upon which the Staveley bid collapsed. One can only assume what Ashley meant by the most advanced stage is that he's been given evidence of funding for the bid and the future of the club via RCM

iadom 05-12-2018 17:48

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35973979)
Peter Kenyon

:rolleyes:

denphone 05-12-2018 17:54

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35973980)
:rolleyes:

Not impressed then Jim?.

iadom 05-12-2018 18:02

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Sleazeball.:(

denphone 05-12-2018 19:03

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It seems Lukaku has fallen out of fashion with Jose.

adzii_nufc 05-12-2018 21:02

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Hopefully Rockefeller have got some spare dollars lying around so we can stop passing off this diabolical style of play as actual football. Newcastle once again playing some football that you couldn't call Premier league level without being embarrassed. :erm:

denphone 05-12-2018 21:30

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Well its certainly interesting at the theatre of dreams tonight.

iadom 05-12-2018 22:23

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Enjoyable game, draw a fair result. Much better attitude, plenty of fight. Not bad for a scratch defence either.

denphone 06-12-2018 04:36

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35974015)
Enjoyable game, draw a fair result. Much better attitude, plenty of fight. Not bad for a scratch defence either.

No not bad for a scratch defence Jim but over a season Man Utd could do with another dolly and daisy IMO.

adzii_nufc 06-12-2018 11:06

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We very nearly stole 3 points that would've been completely undeserved. At the same time it shows Benitez still has his tricks well and truly up there to get a point or three from games with this diabolical team.

denphone 08-12-2018 15:30

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A great miracle has arrived at the Theatre of Dreams.;)

iadom 08-12-2018 18:28

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Fulham look like certain relegation, very poor, United missed at least four gilt edged chances in second half as well.

A big plus ATM is the young 19/20 year old wing back Dalot, he looks the real deal, put more good crosses into the box in 90 minutes than Valencia manages in a full season.

denphone 08-12-2018 19:11

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Nice to see your rivals losing currently.

adzii_nufc 08-12-2018 23:54

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Sources around Newcastle claim a change in ownership request has been submitted to the FA. A company named NUFC Football Co Ltd has been set up. Hours after a fifth consortium was revealed to have entered discussions.

denphone 09-12-2018 05:27

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Well lets see if something comes from these claims.

Carth 09-12-2018 10:35

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35974338)
Well lets see if something comes from these claims.


. . and hope it's not some 'fly by night' lot that have ideas of selling the ground off for redevelopment . . Newcastle could end up ground sharing with Gateshead :shocked:

denphone 09-12-2018 10:59

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35974344)
. . and hope it's not some 'fly by night' lot that have ideas of selling the ground off for redevelopment . . Newcastle could end up ground sharing with Gateshead :shocked:

Indeed that is the last thing one wants for Newcastle.

denphone 09-12-2018 16:19

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Great defending by Newcastle there.:td:

iadom 09-12-2018 17:09

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Can Mike Dean get any worse, that hand off would have been foul play in rugby league never mind football.:rolleyes:

denphone 09-12-2018 17:38

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Mike Dean that explains everything Jim.

adzii_nufc 12-12-2018 16:59

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Sources report Miguel Almiron will sign for Newcastle United imminently for a reported £27 million. The latter figure suggesting that this takeover is truly going forward. MLS say no deal and would take £30 million before anyone moves. Its one of those awkward ones now though. Player has told club he wants to move to Newcastle so if a deal doesn't go through then its not great.

adzii_nufc 13-12-2018 12:25

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As a follow up to the sources that claimed Newcastle United had filed a change in ownership.

Peter Kenyon and Rockefeller Capital Management have agreed a deal to buy Newcastle United. The fat lady is finally singing and for the first time in 11 years it looks like one of the worst periods in the clubs history is coming to a halt.

denphone 13-12-2018 12:37

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Lets hope this is the case Adzii as it would be a Christmas well worth celebrating for Newcastle's fans.

adzii_nufc 13-12-2018 16:42

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I don't think we'll quite get there for Christmas but we're already seeing transfer targets pursued that we're unrealistic at any other point.

Mr K 16-12-2018 14:57

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I love my non league football but I've never been as cold as yesterday. It was raining ice... The floodlights kept going out, icicles were forming on the railings and the ref played no injury time, even though there were plenty of stoppages, nobody complained !

denphone 16-12-2018 14:59

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35975625)
I love my non league football but I've never been as cold as yesterday. It was raining ice... The floodlights kept going out, icicles were forming on the railings and the ref played no injury time, even though there were plenty of stoppages, nobody complained !

And being the wise man that you are you had your sparkling Christmas bobble hat on , your scarf and some decent winter gloves all to combat the cold.;)

Mr K 16-12-2018 15:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35975626)
And being the wise man that you are you had your sparkling Christmas bobble hat on , your scarf and some decent winter gloves all to combat the cold.;)

I had a hip flask Den ,that was all that mattered (purely medicinal ;) )

denphone 16-12-2018 15:04

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35975628)
I had a hip flask Den ,that was all that mattered (purely medicinal ;) )

And got a lovely reliable bus or train home l gather.

denphone 16-12-2018 17:52

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A excellent three points today against Mourinho's mighty red devils.:D:D

Hom3r 16-12-2018 17:55

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I'm gonna have fun with the gooners tomorrow COYS. :D

denphone 16-12-2018 17:57

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35975647)
I'm gonna have fun with the gooners tomorrow COYS. :D

Julian our resident saint must be happy for once.;)

adzii_nufc 16-12-2018 18:19

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Deserved win for Liverpool. Mourinho and Man United don't fit. I thought it would work. It isn't working. They're in desperate need of a Guardioala or a Klopp. Zidanes actual level remains to be seen but he could be in for a shout. I've tried to claim Pogba is out of sorts and maybe he is overall but surely he'd be a lot better when the entire team aren't playing negative football and he's sat around on a bench because of it. How Mourinho sets up Man United is how Benitez sets up Newcastle which is pretty disturbing with the amount of potential in the Mutd squad.

Possession of the ball, Liverpool 65% - 35% Man United
Liverpool Shots 36 - 6 Man United
Liverpool corners 13 - 2 Man United.

Is it actually worth keeping the guy another season to avoid paying him off? At this point it's worth remembering that they're no longer progressing anymore but rather going backwards.

denphone 16-12-2018 18:30

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35975650)
Deserved win for Liverpool. Mourinho and Man United don't fit. I thought it would work. It isn't working. They're in desperate need of a Guardioala or a Klopp. Zidanes actual level remains to be seen but he could be in for a shout.

Defensively l don't think United are good enough , Pogba obviously thinks he is bigger then he really is and Lukaku does not work hard enough for me and that is just for starters as Ed Woodward is too much of a stooge for the Glazer's IMO as well.

It will be interesting to hear Jim's thoughts as perhaps l am being over critical.

adzii_nufc 16-12-2018 18:35

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35975653)
Defensively l don't think United are good enough , Pogba obviously thinks he is bigger then he really is and Lukaku does not work hard enough for me.

I don't think they've got the inspiration to work hard enough. I don't think they've got the setup to play to their best ability. Mourinho and his style hampers every single player on the pitch. These players thrive going forward with freedom and creativity and they're being told to camp out in their box and break away. You're never going to get consistent standout moments from Pogba if he's constantly having to play balls out from his own 18 yard line.

He's peaked at the club. Won two trophies and now the drop off has come. Happened at Chelsea and Madrid too. People caught onto this before I could be bothered to listen to it. As above rather than making a steady progression, they've built a squad and are now going backwards. Zidane has been the favourite for a while but I think it's too risky.

denphone 16-12-2018 18:58

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The thing is why did United extend his contract in the summer and then fail to back him in the transfer market for two defenders as since then the rot has set in significantly.

adzii_nufc 16-12-2018 19:10

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They extended his contract as a gesture for recent success. Something Gary Neville is now all too vocally angered about. I mean this is the same lot that hired David Moyes.

denphone 16-12-2018 19:16

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35975658)
They extended his contract as a gesture for recent success. Something Gary Neville is now all too vocally angered about. I mean this is the same lot that hired David Moyes.

When Sir Alex and David Gill quit a lot of nous left the club and hence since then its been downhill since in the decisions being made high up at the club..

iadom 16-12-2018 22:10

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35975653)

It will be interesting to hear Jim's thoughts as perhaps l am being over critical.

Sadly didn’t see any of the game. Woke up this morning feeling a bit squiffy and got worse as the day wore on. Pounding headache, dizzy, shivering and aching limbs. Finally succumbed and went back to bed at 2:00pm.

Feeling marginally better now, some more Paracetamol and back to bed shortly.:(

TheDaddy 16-12-2018 22:20

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35975654)
I don't think they've got the inspiration to work hard enough. I don't think they've got the setup to play to their best ability. Mourinho and his style hampers every single player on the pitch. These players thrive going forward with freedom and creativity and they're being told to camp out in their box and break away. You're never going to get consistent standout moments from Pogba if he's constantly having to play balls out from his own 18 yard line.

He's peaked at the club. Won two trophies and now the drop off has come. Happened at Chelsea and Madrid too. People caught onto this before I could be bothered to listen to it. As above rather than making a steady progression, they've built a squad and are now going backwards. Zidane has been the favourite for a while but I think it's too risky.

Zidanes best talent is that he massages egos really well. He isn't great at much else but he'll be able to pick up the pieces of yet another mourinho shattered dressing room and mould them into a team again and get the best out of pogba. I don't buy this guff about him winning trophies either, they're the ones no big club wants, Manchester Utd making do with the poxy league cup, incredible and the only reason to win the Europa league is because you weren't good enough to qualify for champions league in your own league

denphone 17-12-2018 05:40

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35975690)
Sadly didn’t see any of the game. Woke up this morning feeling a bit squiffy and got worse as the day wore on. Pounding headache, dizzy, shivering and aching limbs. Finally succumbed and went back to bed at 2:00pm.

Feeling marginally better now, some more Paracetamol and back to bed shortly.:(

Sorry to hear that you are not feeling well Jim as l sincerely hope you get better soon.

Hugh 18-12-2018 09:54

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Mourinho sacked by Man U.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46603018
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Jose Mourinho has left his job as Manchester United manager after two-and-a-half years in charge.

A club statement said: "The club would like to thank Jose for his work during his time at Manchester United and to wish him success in the future.

"A new caretaker manager will be appointed until the end of the current season, while the club conducts a thorough recruitment process for a new, full-time manager."

denphone 18-12-2018 10:00

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l cannot say l am surprised at this as the writing was on the wall before the season started as he was turned down from those above for transfer funds for two defenders and after that the die was cast especially when he did not play Pogba and Lukaku and the results got worse as well.

Michael Carrick looks like being appointed the acting interim manager for the next two days apparently now and then there will be a external temporary appointment until the end of the season.:scratch::confused:

Mr K 18-12-2018 10:17

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35975882)
l cannot say l am surprised at this as the writing was on the wall before the season started as he was turned down from those above for transfer funds for two defenders and after that the die was cast especially when he did not play Pogba and Lukaku and the results got worse as well.

Michael Carrick looks like being appointed the acting interim manager for the next two days apparently now and then there will be a external temporary appointment until the end of the season.:scratch::confused:

An Englishman in charge of a Premiership team ? Surely not, can't have the players understanding the manager, results will nosedive....

denphone 18-12-2018 10:21

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35975886)
An Englishman in charge of a Premiership team ? Surely not, can't have the players understanding the manager, results will nosedive....

Most supporters don't really care if the manager comes from Timbuktu Mr K as if they get the results most supporters will be happy.

Football is a results based business at the end of the day and managers know that when they come into the job.

MalteseFalcon 18-12-2018 10:31

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The game has changed so much now. Now, it's all results straight away that matter. Look at Alex Ferguson when he joined Man U, he took 3.5 years to win a trophy. Would he be given the same time now to build the team like he did then?

denphone 18-12-2018 10:34

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Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon (Post 35975898)
The game has changed so much now. Now, it's all results straight away that matter. Look at Alex Ferguson when he joined Man U, he took 3.5 years to win a trophy. Would he be given the same time now to build the team like he did then?

Sadly the time Sir Alex Ferguson was given to turn it around at Man U is but a distant dream now as clubs are trigger happy when it comes to sacking managers nowadays.

iadom 18-12-2018 10:35

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Mixed emotions from me, something had to change for sure. That said, as at Chelsea in his last season there and their subsequently massive improvement when Conte came suggests a lot of back sliding from outrageously overpaid players.

denphone 18-12-2018 10:39

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A few quotes from Andy Mitten, editor of Manchester United fanzine United We Stand.

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Andy Mitten, editor of Manchester United fanzine United We Stand, on BBC Radio 5 live: "It has been coming in recent weeks. We've been doing polls where 80% of fans wanted him to leave. Very few people will be upset he has gone.
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"He had a very good first season, an acceptable second season, but this season has been a disaster.
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The manager is not wholly responsible but he must take a lot of the blame. He is not the only one culpable, the players are not playing anywhere near their best level.
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"They won't be sad he's gone"
Another comment hits the nail right on the head as well.

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Fair to say United have been devoid of a clear strategy since Sir Alex left. Sacking Jose isn't a panacea for poor planning at the board level and lack of a consistent transfer market policy.

MalteseFalcon 18-12-2018 12:37

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It must be bad though, I can't remember the last time Man U sacked a manager in the middle of a season, they normally wait for the summer to make changes to coaching staff. As someone who has never been a fan of Mourinho, hopefully he disappears from the English game for a very very very long time.

iadom 18-12-2018 12:40

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Don’t think Moyes made it to the end.

In fact he didn’t, Giggsy took over for last few games

denphone 18-12-2018 12:53

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35975916)
Don’t think Moyes made it to the end.

In fact he didn’t, Giggsy took over for last few games

Who would like to be Man Utd’s new manager Jim?.

MalteseFalcon 18-12-2018 12:55

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Oh yeah. But that's the exception, all the other ones left at the end of a season.

Tempted to take a punt on Harry Redknapp to become new manager at 50/1 or maybe even Alan Pardew at 100/1

iadom 18-12-2018 13:06

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35975918)
Who would like to be Man Utd’s new manager Jim?.

Personally I would like to see the back of those financial leeches the Glazers first.:(

denphone 18-12-2018 13:28

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I cannot see those two being in the running for the job.

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35975920)
Personally I would like to see the back of those financial leeches the Glazers first.:(

Personally l cannot see that happening anytime soon.

iadom 18-12-2018 21:46

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What a pathetic set of penalties from Leicester City plus an awful ‘cocky’ miss from Sterling.:rolleyes:

adzii_nufc 19-12-2018 00:57

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Mourinho played embarrassing football with a top quality team. Two defenders weren't going to change the way he sucked the life out of any attacking force Man United had. Players may now get the freedom they crave until they bring someone in that'll get the best out of them.

denphone 19-12-2018 05:26

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Personally l think the whole structure of Man U needs to change as its alright changing the manager but how many times have they done that since Sir Alex Ferguson left.

iadom 19-12-2018 09:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35976003)
Personally l think the whole structure of Man U needs to change as its alright changing the manager but how many times have they done that since Sir Alex Ferguson left.

Hardly the whole structure, just a few people at the top, namely the Glazers and Woodward. The manager has been changed three times including Jose, City went through about 30 whilst SFA was in situ and and even after the oil money have still shed managers at a similar rate, likewise Chelsea.

denphone 19-12-2018 09:44

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35976023)
Hardly the whole structure, just a few people at the top, namely the Glazers and Woodward. The manager has been changed three times including Jose, City went through about 30 whilst SFA was in situ and and even after the oil money have still shed managers at a similar rate, likewise Chelsea.

But its the people at the top Jim who are in charge of the structure and its their say so that sets the structure for the rest of the club don't you agree?.

iadom 19-12-2018 10:21

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No I don’t agree.

The club is still a massive financial success and would be even better if the bloodsucking Glazers where not taking out huge sums.

The under 18’ s team have just knocked Chelsea (winners for past six years) out of the FA Youth Cup, they still get 75,000 people to Old Trafford for most games so there is nothing wrong with the structure.

A solid well built ship does not need major structural change simply because the captain of that ship has steered it towards the rocks.

devilincarnate 19-12-2018 13:48

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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer named Man Utd caretaker manager until end of season - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46616768

denphone 19-12-2018 14:14

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A United legend that is for sure but his time at Cardiff ended in tears pretty abruptly..

iadom 19-12-2018 15:01

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It would have need Lazarus to turn that mess around, still he will be going back there quite soon.:)

denphone 19-12-2018 15:12

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35976062)
It would have need Lazarus to turn that mess around, still he will be going back there quite soon.:)

Indeed this Saturday evening so perhaps some of the highly paid players can start to earn their wages for once.

MalteseFalcon 19-12-2018 22:03

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The half hour I watched of the Arsenal/Spurs game reminded me why I don't watch football games that often. Could feel my blood pressure rising dangerously at a couple of moments. Must remember to not get so involved with it lol.

adzii_nufc 20-12-2018 00:04

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Ole can do one better than Mourinho by simply saying go out and play actual football. Honestly win or lose they really can't be as devoid of life as they were becoming under Jose. At least I hope not.

denphone 22-12-2018 16:55

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It seems the malaise in the red part of Manchester has spread to the blue part of Manchester now.:D:D

adzii_nufc 22-12-2018 17:57

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Man United with 81% of the ball and looking good. Who'd have thought there was grass outside your own box :D

denphone 22-12-2018 18:00

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35976599)
Man United with 81% of the ball and looking good. Who'd have thought there was grass outside your own box :D

Crikey there are starting to do handsprings on the pitch now.:D

iadom 22-12-2018 20:26

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Difficult to know what to say, some excellent attacking football for sure but of all the players on show I could only pick out Pogba as one player who wasn’t trying 100% for Jose. The rest of them did appear to be trying their best before today without clicking. They just seemed to be playing with a freedom and confidence not seen recently. Far to soon to herald a new dawn but it will do for starters.

Cardiff might have won 4 of their last 5 at home but the list of those teams isn’t anything to crow about, they looked very poor TBH.

adzii_nufc 22-12-2018 21:20

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Absolutely too early which is only natural but I'm also absolutely confident in saying Mourinho would've grinded out a 2-1 win with less of the ball, less shots and less risk. 17 shots and 9 on target. Absolute dominance of the ball. Again its Cardiff but again Mourinho would've still set them up to a grind out a win against a team they should steamroll. They've steamrolled them today and actually looked like Man United.

adzii_nufc 23-12-2018 08:51

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Takeover update is a simple one.

Rumours that Mike Ashley requires any new owner to keep the current sports direct advertising is seemingly untrue and rather sensationalist journalism or better termed clickbait.

What we actually know is there are 4 groups. Peter Kenyon is the furthest along and is still progressing on a deal via an American legal team with the finances being raised by Rockefeller Capital. Understanding that he's awaiting the last £100 million to complete the purchase of the club.

Gary Cook is now leading a second group. Seemingly the same way he sold Man City years ago. Thought to be American based again.

There are two more groups that signed NDA's and virtually nothing is known about them.

Its worth noting that meeting the £300 million asking price doesn't automatically fulfill the requirements of sale. Mike Ashley has made it crystal clear that he won't sell the club unless a buyer has substantial evidence they can provide massive cash investment going forward. In other words he won't sell for a like for like owner.

So whilst Kenyon may drum up the £300 million required, he won't get any further unless he can provide future investment.

Sports Neglect banners have been appearing around Sports Direct and Tube stations in London with Newcastle United above them. Currently unaware on who's putting them there but one appeared on Ashley's house. I think Newcastle United fans are actually starting to assist in the damage to his brand.

TheDaddy 23-12-2018 21:03

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35976690)
Takeover update is a simple one.

Rumours that Mike Ashley requires any new owner to keep the current sports direct advertising is seemingly untrue and rather sensationalist journalism or better termed clickbait.

What we actually know is there are 4 groups. Peter Kenyon is the furthest along and is still progressing on a deal via an American legal team with the finances being raised by Rockefeller Capital. Understanding that he's awaiting the last £100 million to complete the purchase of the club.

Gary Cook is now leading a second group. Seemingly the same way he sold Man City years ago. Thought to be American based again.

There are two more groups that signed NDA's and virtually nothing is known about them.

Its worth noting that meeting the £300 million asking price doesn't automatically fulfill the requirements of sale. Mike Ashley has made it crystal clear that he won't sell the club unless a buyer has substantial evidence they can provide massive cash investment going forward. In other words he won't sell for a like for like owner.

So whilst Kenyon may drum up the £300 million required, he won't get any further unless he can provide future investment.

Sports Neglect banners have been appearing around Sports Direct and Tube stations in London with Newcastle United above them. Currently unaware on who's putting them there but one appeared on Ashley's house. I think Newcastle United fans are actually starting to assist in the damage to his brand.

The sports direct advertising is a red herring it's peanuts to a firm to put that up and Gary Cook talked sheikh mansoor out of buying Newcastle to buy city iirc

adzii_nufc 26-12-2018 16:11

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Nothing better than a cracking dive from Salah for Christmas. No doubt Jurgen Klopp has nothing to say regarding it come the end. Naturally the referee giving it goes unpunished for his part in awarding a penalty and the cycle repeats itself. Salah should be on a two game ban after this but naturally that won't happen either.

denphone 26-12-2018 16:18

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If the authorities don't enforce the rules which they don't then the diving and simulation will continue unbounded sadly adzii.

adzii_nufc 26-12-2018 16:31

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We don't deserve anything from the game and its not a close game either. They should enforce the two game ban rule but its rarely come up this season. With the above in mind the FA will probably take no notice of it.

Pogba did a thing and Man United continue their adventure in the great lands beyond their 18 yard box. They're no longer hobbits.

denphone 26-12-2018 16:36

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Over 46,000 at a League Division one game today must be a record crowd for that division.:shocked:

TheDaddy 27-12-2018 09:32

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35976931)
Nothing better than a cracking dive from Salah for Christmas. No doubt Jurgen Klopp has nothing to say regarding it come the end. Naturally the referee giving it goes unpunished for his part in awarding a penalty and the cycle repeats itself. Salah should be on a two game ban after this but naturally that won't happen either.

Found not guilty by disciplinary panel...

adzii_nufc 27-12-2018 10:17

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Was expected. Doesn't meet the threshold. That threshold being any team outside the top six.

The FA response from the Niasse penalty incident last year: “The arching of the back & collapsing of both legs, were simply not consistent with the amount of force exerted upon him by Dann & in exaggerating the effect of the contact made, Niasse deceived the ref & this led to a penalty being awarded.

I mean that's literally what just happened. He got a hand on the shoulder and his legs buckled beneath him.

God forbid we get a big name banned for diving in the Premier league. Martin Atkinson was at it too last night for Chelsea.

adzii_nufc 28-12-2018 13:03

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Steve Howey sparks frenzy with claim Newcastle will announce new ownership this coming Wednesday. This would tie in with claims that Newcastle had indeed filed for a change of ownership pre Christmas.

Simon Jordan of Palace also claims a takeover is close.

Isn't really going to matter if a deal isn't struck whilst the window is still open. The teams capability to stay up is doubtful and its also doubtful there'll be anything left to sell if it doesn't get investment in January.

denphone 28-12-2018 14:45

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While Rafa is still there they will stay up IMO.

daveeb 28-12-2018 21:00

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35976931)
Nothing better than a cracking dive from Salah for Christmas. No doubt Jurgen Klopp has nothing to say regarding it come the end. Naturally the referee giving it goes unpunished for his part in awarding a penalty and the cycle repeats itself. Salah should be on a two game ban after this but naturally that won't happen either.


Salah was criticised a game or two ago for not going down when he was clearly fouled and got nothing. If the defender is stupid enough to pull him back and interfere in his run it's a penalty. As it happens it didn't matter a bit as Newcastle got battered, i'd worry more about your teams form than individual refereeing decisions.

adzii_nufc 29-12-2018 00:28

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I mean the entire point was to highlight the dire standard of refereeing across the board and frequent inconsistency, the game was already lost at 1-0 that's irrelevant and I didn't even argue that, there's no robbery here. Hence the following post about Martin Atkinson screwing Watford later that night. So I'm not worried about individual decisions. I'm worried about all of them, thus mentioning both Lanzini and Niasse received bans for exeggerating contact. If you can tell me. Paul Dummett brushing Salah on the arm leads to someone flopping forward and their legs giving way then I'll tell you Paul Dummett is Sergio Ramos.

daveeb 29-12-2018 11:33

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35977144)
I mean the entire point was to highlight the dire standard of refereeing across the board and frequent inconsistency, the game was already lost at 1-0 that's irrelevant and I didn't even argue that, there's no robbery here. Hence the following post about Martin Atkinson screwing Watford later that night. So I'm not worried about individual decisions. I'm worried about all of them, thus mentioning both Lanzini and Niasse received bans for exeggerating contact. If you can tell me. Paul Dummett brushing Salah on the arm leads to someone flopping forward and their legs giving way then I'll tell you Paul Dummett is Sergio Ramos.


I think Salah is one of the more honest strikers in the PL that's all, I agree the decision was a bit soft but the defender should have kept his hands to himself. Personally I can't wait for VAR as it will hopefully mitigate some of the dreadful refereeing decisions we've seen this year. I don't think the Salah penalty was one of those. You certainly can't compare it with the Ramos incident.

adzii_nufc 29-12-2018 12:04

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35977175)
I think Salah is one of the more honest strikers in the PL that's all, I agree the decision was a bit soft but the defender should have kept his hands to himself. Personally I can't wait for VAR as it will hopefully mitigate some of the dreadful refereeing decisions we've seen this year. I don't think the Salah penalty was one of those. You certainly can't compare it with the Ramos incident.

I'm not it was more tongue in cheek in reference to the way Ramos tried to pull his arm off. :D

denphone 29-12-2018 12:06

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35977175)
I think Salah is one of the more honest strikers in the PL that's all, I agree the decision was a bit soft but the defender should have kept his hands to himself. Personally I can't wait for VAR as it will hopefully mitigate some of the dreadful refereeing decisions we've seen this year. I don't think the Salah penalty was one of those. You certainly can't compare it with the Ramos incident.

+1

daveeb 29-12-2018 12:18

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35977184)
I'm not it was more tongue in cheek in reference to the way Ramos tried to pull his arm off. :D

Fair enough, every time I see the name Ramos it's like red rag to a bull :D

denphone 29-12-2018 18:16

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35977134)
Salah was criticised a game or two ago for not going down when he was clearly fouled and got nothing. If the defender is stupid enough to pull him back and interfere in his run it's a penalty. As it happens it didn't matter a bit as Newcastle got battered, i'd worry more about your teams form than individual refereeing decisions.

Its certainly more a penalty today don't you agree Dave?.

iadom 29-12-2018 18:47

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Kamikaze defending from Arsenal for all four goals. :rolleyes:

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Its certainly more a penalty today don't you agree Dave?.

Still a bit soft all the same.

adzii_nufc 29-12-2018 19:07

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Harry Kane had a hell of a flop for Spurs. Didn't get touched but rolled around holding his leg in agony. Should look at changing the rule so that the most blatant of dives are punished regardless of whether the ref awards anything.

denphone 29-12-2018 19:13

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35977239)
Kamikaze defending from Arsenal for all four goals. :rolleyes:.

How they could do with a Tony Adams and Co Jim..

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Still a bit soft all the same.

A lot of them are nowadays.

daveeb 29-12-2018 20:11

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35977234)
Its certainly more a penalty today don't you agree Dave?.


Yes for sure, but the pullback in the N'castle game would have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch, so it should be in the penalty area as well. Arsenal should probably have had a pen in todays game as well so once again refs are inconsistent.


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