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Horizon 08-08-2019 23:32

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
He leaves out who was responsible for the death of Blockbuster in the first place.... :)

Paul 08-08-2019 23:42

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005386)
However the viewer doesn’t have to work to the schedule.

Of course they do.
You could not record something until it was actually broadcast, which relies on the schedule.
PVRs will never kill scheduled broadcasts, and were never designed to (rather obviously really).

denphone 09-08-2019 05:22

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 36005390)
He leaves out who was responsible for the death of Blockbuster in the first place.... :)

Well l thought l would leave that to the great and the good on here to work that one out.;)

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36005387)

That's exactly what you have been saying about streaming, Den!

If you have read my posts MM ;) my points have always been that the greatly predicted complete takeover of peoples viewing by streaming companies by some on here was a figment of their great imagination and that broadcast linear TV viewing was always going to remain for many the main outlet of their TV viewing.

muppetman11 09-08-2019 06:24

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
The difference between Netflix and it's competitors are the fact Netflix is a one trick pony , all it's competitors have other business units with which to monetise its investment in content with things like retail stores , theme parks plus much more.

denphone 09-08-2019 07:09

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
And one trick ponies inevitably get found out sooner rather then later...

rosemartine 09-08-2019 07:32

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
I'm enjoying on netflix. Using netflix app in my mobile. I'm watching Four Weddings and a Funeral.
Just awesome movie.

jfman 09-08-2019 07:40

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 36005391)
Of course they do.
You could not record something until it was actually broadcast, which relies on the schedule.
PVRs will never kill scheduled broadcasts, and were never designed to (rather obviously really).

To the end user they can watch what they want, when they want (subject to it being broadcast). I don't see how that's any different from watching what they want, when they want, subject to it being uploaded by the streamer.

It's another form of delivery, that is all.

Of course it couldn't kill off broadcast television (in my view nothing will in the medium to long term) but the flexibility to the viewer is fundamentally the same.

OLD BOY 09-08-2019 10:44

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005403)
To the end user they can watch what they want, when they want (subject to it being broadcast). I don't see how that's any different from watching what they want, when they want, subject to it being uploaded by the streamer.

It's another form of delivery, that is all.

Of course it couldn't kill off broadcast television (in my view nothing will in the medium to long term) but the flexibility to the viewer is fundamentally the same.

I think you have a mental block with this. Once a programme is broadcast, it's lost if you haven't recorded it. Whereas once a programme is on Netflix, it's there for a long time and you can see every programme in the series.

A lot of people don't have recorders, and even those that do fail to record much. Those that do can run out of space and it can be a constant juggle to ensure there is room left for new stuff coming through.

Streaming does not require recording space and all the programmes you identify as worth watching are just there, waiting to be viewed.

Having to record everything in advance is just a pain, and the sooner everything is there on demand, the better, as far as I am concerned.

To be talking about the end of Netfix when it is the most popular streamer in the world is your fantasy.

jfman 09-08-2019 11:21

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Popular doesn't equal profit, or a business model Old Boy. I thought you'd have known that by now.

Far from me having the mental block it is you. People continue to watch live TV (and adverts) despite having the technology at their fingertips to never have to do such a thing ever again.

If it isn't important to see things "live" or "near live" they could save up entire series and binge watch at their leisure. On demand, an excellent example of where viewers can presently deviate from linear, further increases the flexibility around this.

Yet people continue to watch live TV as part of the mix. I ask again, what makes streaming so special as a delivery model to achieve what PVRs and On Demand cannot?

SnoopZ 09-08-2019 12:07

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God you 2 are like a broken record, we get it you both disagree with each other and that will never change.

My watching habits are, even though i have a V6 99.99% of my viewing is done via streaming, on Kodi or Amazon Prime.

Horizon 09-08-2019 12:28

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36005399)
The difference between Netflix and it's competitors are the fact Netflix is a one trick pony , all it's competitors have other business units with which to monetise its investment in content with things like retail stores , theme parks plus much more.

Disney in particular is a well rounded media company which is why I like them so much, so agree these are fair points, but...

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005400)
And one trick ponies inevitably get found out sooner rather then later...

Perhaps, unless they become thoroughbred stallions faster and better than anyone else.

denphone 09-08-2019 12:35

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36005433)
God you 2 are like a broken record, we get it you both disagree with each other and that will never change.

My watching habits are, even though i have a V6 99.99% of my viewing is done via streaming, on Kodi or Amazon Prime.

You could say that about half the threads on here SnoopZ.;)

OLD BOY 09-08-2019 12:38

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005421)
Popular doesn't equal profit, or a business model Old Boy. I thought you'd have known that by now.

Far from me having the mental block it is you. People continue to watch live TV (and adverts) despite having the technology at their fingertips to never have to do such a thing ever again.

If it isn't important to see things "live" or "near live" they could save up entire series and binge watch at their leisure. On demand, an excellent example of where viewers can presently deviate from linear, further increases the flexibility around this.

Yet people continue to watch live TV as part of the mix. I ask again, what makes streaming so special as a delivery model to achieve what PVRs and On Demand cannot?

Popular gets subscribers, so popular does equal profit. Of course people are still viewing scheduled tv - I never said they were not. What I am saying is that the trend is pointing very much towards what I have been saying will happen for some time now.

Scheduled TV is restrictive. It is nothing like as convenient as on demand viewing. However, I get that you are happy with the status quo.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005446)
You could say that about half the threads on here SnoopZ.;)

And your responses are just as predictable, Den!:D

denphone 09-08-2019 12:39

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 36005441)

Perhaps, unless they become thoroughbred stallions faster and better than anyone else.

They are only so many that become the thoroughbred stallions of this world like your Dubawi's and Galileo's and their prices are very premium indeed.

Chad 09-08-2019 12:46

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From mid-August Now TV is joining Tesco Club Card as one of their reward partners. Your club card vouchers will be worth triple the value in Now TV credit.

Nice little perk if you are a Tesco club card user.


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