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Dean Ashton 02-04-2011 11:46

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204384)
Sky never charged once the sky+ charge was dropped on sky+ boxes and the VM XL was like for like pricing with Skys 6 mix so work that out and there was no HD or charge then.

It might look like that, but you've no information as to whether Sky's internal costs have changed during that period, and whether the EPG costs were effectively absorbed.

Personally I think it's pretty simple. If you don't like the cost (either for TiVo or the per-monthly service charge), then don't pay it. I guess I don't quite understand why people still view it negatively when it's optional, but I appreciate that everyone's got different bones to pick when it comes to Virgin Media's operations.

Anyway, have a good weekend!

muppetman11 02-04-2011 11:56

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Ashton (Post 35204388)
It might look like that, but you've no information as to whether Sky's internal costs have changed during that period, and whether the EPG costs were effectively absorbed.

Personally I think it's pretty simple. If you don't like the cost (either for TiVo or the per-monthly service charge), then don't pay it. I guess I don't quite understand why people still view it negatively when it's optional, but I appreciate that everyone's got different bones to pick when it comes to Virgin Media's operations.

Anyway, have a good weekend!

I do agree in principal about a charge included in sky sub somewhere , however I feel once the only PVR option with VM is TIVO , Sky will swoop on this charge in comparisons , especially when you think Sky premium customers on VM pay 7.00 add TIVO and your at Skys HD charge. Stephen stated on here that all TIVO PVR boxes would incur the 3.00 charge.

---------- Post added at 10:56 ---------- Previous post was at 10:55 ----------

You have a good weekend to mate.

passingbat 02-04-2011 13:00

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Ashton (Post 35204351)

If everyone was forced into upgrading to TiVo, then I can see cause for complaint, but this is not the case.

You are right that people aren't forced into Tivo, but HD channels are forcing them to make some sort of choice.

20 hours HD recording on the V+ box doesn't cut it anymore.

So, people are looking at three choices:

Tivo

V+ (which doesn't cut it for HD recording)

Sky HD, with 60 hours recording

I think Virgin need to address their customer base who want HD and enough space to record it but don't want to pay the extra £3 for Tivo functionality, otherwise, they may see some people heading over to Sky.

TBH, I think it's pointless focusing on 'the £3 Tivo charge'. You should look at the overall cost of the package for the services you want and compare that between providers. But sadly, people aren't doing that and are letting one aspect of the charge dominate their thinking rather than considering the overall costs.

denphone 02-04-2011 13:20

Re: TiVo
 
Wheres Digital Fantastic hes been very quiet lately, he has not done a Lord Lucan has he.
Its always nice to hear his poetic words.

scrooge 02-04-2011 13:22

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204432)
You are right that people aren't forced into Tivo, but HD channels are forcing them to make some sort of choice.

20 hours HD recording on the V+ box doesn't cut it anymore.

So, people are looking at three choices:

Tivo

V+ (which doesn't cut it for HD recording)

Sky HD, with 60 hours recording

I think Virgin need to address their customer base who want HD and enough space to record it but don't want to pay the extra £3 for Tivo functionality, otherwise, they may see some people heading over to Sky.

TBH, I think it's pointless focusing on 'the £3 Tivo charge'. You should look at the overall cost of the package for the services you want and compare that between providers. But sadly, people aren't doing that and are letting one aspect of the charge dominate their thinking rather than considering the overall costs.

VM should give users the option of upgrading the hard drives in V+ boxes but I can see that option canabalising sales of Tivo

Hugh 02-04-2011 13:35

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204452)
Wheres Digital Fantastic hes been very quiet lately, he has not done a Lord Lucan has he.
Its always nice to hear his poetic words.

Maybe he's
a) working
b) fed up of the abuse

denphone 02-04-2011 13:42

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35204462)
Maybe he's
a) working
b) fed up of the abuse

I do not believe in abuse on any forum.

DaBoz 02-04-2011 13:44

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204432)
TBH, I think it's pointless focusing on 'the £3 Tivo charge'. You should look at the overall cost of the package for the services you want and compare that between providers. But sadly, people aren't doing that and are letting one aspect of the charge dominate their thinking rather than considering the overall costs.

Indeed, checking back thru my bills I see I knocked £13.53/month one year with VM by having a rant about their CS and agreeing to sign up for another 12 month contract. There will certainly be ways to absorb that cost if you play it right.

Boz

howardmicks 02-04-2011 13:58

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35204309)
I must say that I've had the opposite recently. On thursday, all suggestions that were available in HD recorded in HD, 4 in total. For a moment I thought they'd upgraded the software but having read your comments, obviously not.

I was hoping they had,Must admit i have had my suggestions turned off for a couple of days(sick of constant deleting) so when it suggested that in hd thought they had sorted it

BenMcr 02-04-2011 13:59

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scrooge (Post 35204454)
VM should give users the option of upgrading the hard drives in V+ boxes but I can see that option canabalising sales of Tivo

It's not so much that, more of why would Virgin upgrade STBs that run on a platform that will eventually be turned off?

Virgin have already stated that they will move all customers over the TiVo platform in the next few years, so that's where their investment will be

fixerman 02-04-2011 14:00

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35204462)
Maybe he's
a) working
b) fed up of the abuse

or

c) Licking his wounds because none of his many predictions on "Pleasant Surprises" came true!:redcard:

Harryn9000 02-04-2011 14:01

Re: TiVo
 
what u get for the 3 pound is more than u get on v+. it alot better guide cleaner, VOD is alot better easier to use. still quite a few bugs with it but it will be sorted.

muppetman11 02-04-2011 14:02

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35204486)
or

c) licking his wounds because none of his many predictions on "pleasant surprises" came true!:redcard:

lmao :d

fixerman 02-04-2011 14:17

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204488)
lmao :d

Bet he comes back as Dean the Digital Fanatic.
:LOL:

Hugh 02-04-2011 14:18

Re: TiVo
 
See "point b)".....


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