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GrimUpNorth 19-07-2025 22:15
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36199530)
I’d vote for Beelzebub himself if he promised to end illegal migration and reduce legal migration to <10,000.

This is the no.1 issue for me at the moment.
But what about the impact on road safety? All those unwashed cars on the road would be a recipe for disaster. Be careful what you wish for.

Sephiroth 19-07-2025 22:33
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The nation voted for Beelzebub who promised to end illegal immigration.

Reform UK's policy, apparently, is to push the boats back to France. I might go along with that if they acknowledged that this would intentionally cause an international incident with France so that matters could be brought to a head. That needs to be openy said so that we can gauge France's reaction

Paul 19-07-2025 23:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36199539)
But what about the impact on road safety? All those unwashed cars on the road would be a recipe for disaster. Be careful what you wish for.
Huh :confused:

Hugh 19-07-2025 23:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199541)
The nation voted for Beelzebub who promised to end illegal immigration.

Reform UK's policy, apparently, is to push the boats back to France. I might go along with that if they acknowledged that this would intentionally cause an international incident with France so that matters could be brought to a head. That needs to be openy said so that we can gauge France's reaction

Sorry to bring reality into this, but how exactly would Reform UK "push the boats back to France"?

Large poles?

Damien 19-07-2025 23:16
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It might just encourage France to be even less bothered about securing the coastline or the Eurotunnel. We also need cooperation from France on all sorts of issues other than immigration. Souring relations with your direct neighbours is rarely productive.

I don't see how you solve this unless you make it harder for them to enter France in the first place. Let's face it, what incentive is there for France to make it hard to leave France for Britain? If it were the other way around, the British Government wouldn't exactly be popular for helping France but keeping prospective immigrants on our shores instead of theirs.

I think we should look at legal routes and find further ways to discourage illegal crossings. Introduce ID cards as well.

Sephiroth 19-07-2025 23:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36199546)
Sorry to bring reality into this, but how exactly would Reform UK "push the boats back to France"?

Large poles?
Oh dear. Trust you to twist my clearly made point.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36199548)
It might just encourage France to be even less bothered about securing the coastline or the Eurotunnel. We also need cooperation from France on all sorts of issues other than immigration. Souring relations with your direct neighbours is rarely productive.

I don't see how you solve this unless you make it harder for them to enter France in the first place. Let's face it, what incentive is there for France to make it hard to leave France for Britain? If it were the other way around, the British Government wouldn't exactly be popular for helping France but keeping prospective immigrants on our shores instead of theirs.

I think we should look at legal routes and find further ways to discourage illegal crossings. Introduce ID cards as well.

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It might just encourage France to be even less bothered about securing the coastline or the Eurotunnel. We also need cooperation from France on all sorts of issues other than immigration. Souring relations with your direct neighbours is rarely productive.
Sounds like bending over to me. If the objective is to stop this invasion by economic migrants or potential terrorists, then something drastic needs doing. France is not our friend and they are laughing at us with each boat that crosses to the UK.

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I think we should look at legal routes and find further ways to discourage illegal crossings. Introduce ID cards as well.
Well, that's a leftie line if ever there was one. The British population is being replaced; is that what you want?

Hugh 20-07-2025 00:20
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199549)
Oh dear. Trust you to twist my clearly made point.

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Sounds like bending over to me. If the objective is to stop this invasion by economic migrants or potential terrorists, then something drastic needs doing. France is not our friend and they are laughing at us with each boat that crosses to the UK.



Well, that's a leftie line if ever there was one. The British population is being replaced; is that what you want?
Oh dear, trust you not to answer the question…

This is typical of Reform U.K. policies - all sound bite, no real world explanation…

It’s been a while since you mentioned the Great Replacement Theory…

GrimUpNorth 20-07-2025 08:27
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36199544)
Huh :confused:
Round this part of the world, the people Seph, Pierre et al seem to fear coming to the UK run friendly car wash operations. For what they charge it isn't worth getting your own hands wet. We'll miss them when they're gone.

Pierre 20-07-2025 08:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36199536)
The students have to pay for a CAS (Confirmation of Acceptance for Study) from an Accredited University, then for a Visa, then pay (at our local Uni) £27k per year (in advance) for an undergraduate course, around £29k each year (in advance) for Post-graduate course (£61k for Medicine).

Only PhD students are eligible to bring their dependents to the U.K., and the students have to prove they have the money to support themselves and their dependents.
https://aca-secretariat.be/newslette...aud-uncovered/

I didn’t have to look hard.

Hugh 20-07-2025 09:16
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36199556)
That was over 10 years ago, about English Language testing in two small colleges - the rules were tightened after that.

What did that article have to do with the fees that the Overseas students have to pay, and the fact that only PhD students can bring dependents here?

1andrew1 21-07-2025 00:09
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Reform upping red tape costs at one council and Farage can't explain why.
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Nigel Farage has responded that he has “no idea” six times in an interview with the BBC’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.

The Reform UK leader was asked about Scarborough Town Council increasing its mayor’s allowance by 600 per cent, despite his party promising to cut costs for taxpayers.

Asked about the rise, from £500 to £3,500, Mr Farage said: “I have no idea… whether what you say is true or not, I have no idea.”

Asked whether it is the right thing to do, Mr Farage again said he has “no idea”, before saying he has “no idea” whether Thomas Murray, Reform’s mayor of Scarborough Town Council, does the role as a full-time job.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...2f176226&ei=38

Paul 21-07-2025 02:07
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Not really sure what your point is - I cant stand the guy, but I dont expect him know every person in every council they won.

OLD BOY 21-07-2025 14:32
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199338)
Have they said what they'll do about the tax-dodging millionaires and billionaires? I don't think I was listening to that part.
Not that I’m aware of, but I would imagine all parties will want to deal with tax dodgers, whether millionaires or not.

What is Labour doing about it? None of the established parties have done enough, have they?

As Reform want to completely change our system of taxation, I guess the answer to your question may be self evident nearer the time.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36199376)
They could not organise a piss up at a brewery let alone run their own councils they are running now.
We’ll see, Den, we’ll see. The proof of the pudding….

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199541)
The nation voted for Beelzebub who promised to end illegal immigration.

Reform UK's policy, apparently, is to push the boats back to France. I might go along with that if they acknowledged that this would intentionally cause an international incident with France so that matters could be brought to a head. That needs to be openy said so that we can gauge France's reaction
So it’s OK for the French to tow boats to our border, but not the other way around?

We should tow these boats back to the French cost and then disable the boats in shallow waters.

Sephiroth 21-07-2025 14:37
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199338)
Have they said what they'll do about the tax-dodging millionaires and billionaires? I don't think I was listening to that part.
You really don't get it. Said millionaires/billionaires are big spenders and those who are here contribute significantly to the economy in many ways. Drive them out, then the rest of us have to make up the tax shortfall unless the government reduces expenditure.

As to "tax dodgers" - illegal "dodging" (as in evasion) would be dealt with by HMRC.

The way you've put it shows your hatred of the wealthy in this country. Added to your charming list of people on whom bags of brown stuff should be chucked.

OLD BOY 21-07-2025 14:39
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36199536)
The students have to pay for a CAS (Confirmation of Acceptance for Study) from an Accredited University, then for a Visa, then pay (at our local Uni) £27k per year (in advance) for an undergraduate course, around £29k each year (in advance) for Post-graduate course (£61k for Medicine).

Only PhD students are eligible to bring their dependents to the U.K., and the students have to prove they have the money to support themselves and their dependents.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36199629)
Not really sure what your point is - I cant stand the guy, but I dont expect him know every person in every council they won.
Agreed, and it was only a Town Council after all.

Additionally, it’s worth reminding ourselves that if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Reform UK wants to bring talent in from the private sector to reset politics and show how government business should be done.

People can criticise Nigel Farage and his party if they foul up, but some are so afraid of him, they want to talk him down before he’s even started.

We should judge him on his success or otherwise, but we should also compare his performance with that of other parties. It’s not a high bar to cross, is it?


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