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jfman 15-01-2022 23:38

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
It’d be hilarious (although I concede extremely unlikely) if the Scottish Conservatives were the first of the unionist parties to split from their London masters.

1andrew1 16-01-2022 14:34

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
There seem to be few peoplehttps://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...971844/photo/1illing to defend Johnson over the now infamous "work" party. I've scoured readers' comments on newspaper websites and have finally found someone sticking up for him.

'ParticipantObserver' in the Guardian noted "...to be fair, when a clown turns up at a party, he is at work" :D

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SamCoatesSky Today Dominic Lawson in the Sunday Times challenges No10 claims that Boris Johnson didn’t know that the 20/5/20 garden party organised by his PPS Martin Reynolds was anything more than a “work event”

He claims the PM was challenged over the email twice.
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...971844/photo/1
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/l...pint-dh0dqzftl

Taf 16-01-2022 15:18

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
It was quite normal for Civil Service admin staffers who worked closely together to have a "wind-down" drink at the end of the week. P.O.E.T.S day. Sometimes in the office, sometimes in local bars.

Damien 16-01-2022 15:36

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.

Carth 16-01-2022 15:37

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36109810)
They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.

I'd like to see a poll on that one :D

jfman 16-01-2022 15:51

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36109811)
I'd like to see a poll on that one :D

Well...

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36109810)
They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.

The thing is the heads that roll would have to be sufficiently high, which in turn will sour the relationship (probably already strained) between Senior Civil Servants and Ministers.

Fundamentally Ministers are setting a precedent where - no matter what goes wrong - officials take the fall.

The idea that these happened, Johnson, Raab and presumably others attended such events sincerely believing them to be work related, is entirely fanciful.

1andrew1 16-01-2022 20:09

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36109813)
The thing is the heads that roll would have to be sufficiently high, which in turn will sour the relationship (probably already strained) between Senior Civil Servants and Ministers.

Fundamentally Ministers are setting a precedent where - no matter what goes wrong - officials take the fall.

The idea that these happened, Johnson, Raab and presumably others attended such events sincerely believing them to be work related, is entirely fanciful.

And the net result is the most talented in the civil service will avoid working for No. 10 or price walking the plank for their boss's mistakes into their salary expectations.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36109810)
They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.

Some of the public didn't know what Johnson was like when they voted Conservative in 2019; they saw him as an upbeat, likeable and humorous guy. They're not laughing anymore.

I'm not sure even a fulsome apology will work at this late stage, given the many cover-ups to date.

papa smurf 17-01-2022 12:49

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Starmer refuses to apologise for boozy pizza party

He travelled hundreds of miles for boozy pizza night during lockdown.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inks-work.html

BenMcr 17-01-2022 12:50

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36109938)
Starmer refuses to apologise for boozy pizza party

He travelled hundreds of miles for boozy pizza night during lockdown.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inks-work.html

No, he didn't travel for a pizza night.

He was already there working and they were having food and drink for dinner before doing more work. As I posted this earlier when The Sun reported at the time.
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36109684)
They're recycling their own stories - they reported that last year and it didn't really go anywhere at the time

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/148264...oor-gathering/


papa smurf 17-01-2022 12:52

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36109940)
No, he didn't. He was already there working and they were having food and drink before doing more work.

:rofl: oh come on you can do better than that.

BenMcr 17-01-2022 12:55

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36109941)
:rofl: oh come on you can do better than that.

Why do I need to? It's what the situation was. How would you expect them to have dinner when they were working?

daveeb 17-01-2022 12:55

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36109941)
:rofl: oh come on you can do better than that.

He doesn't need to :rolleyes:

papa smurf 17-01-2022 13:06

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36109943)
He doesn't need to :rolleyes:

if he doesn't want to fair enough that's his choice, defending the indefensible isn't an easy job.

daveeb 17-01-2022 13:09

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36109944)
if he doesn't want to fair enough that's his choice, defending the indefensible isn't an easy job.

Bojo has turned it into an art form.

Hugh 17-01-2022 13:11

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36109944)
if he doesn't want to fair enough that's his choice, defending the indefensible isn't an easy job.

Well, you and OB have tried your best… ;)


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