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Hugh 19-06-2020 14:02
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36040375)
Quote:
Quote from The Sun:

England rugby fans could be banned from singing Swing Low, Sweet Chariot at games over the song’s associations with slavery.

Fans can usually be heard bellowing out the song from the stands at Twickenham but it's now being examined after the Rugby Football Union launched a review into racism.

The review was started after Black Lives Matter supporters called for a review of Britain’s cultural past and its links to the slave trade.

Protests flared up following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis while he was in police custody.

The traditional song was written by a black slave in southern America during the 19th century
As for "The Camptown Ladies" :erm:
Sounds like a made up story to stoke outrage, as "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" was used during the Civil Rights marches in the USA in the 1960s.

Carth 19-06-2020 14:14
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36040373)

So we needn't bother doing anything.Apathy should be our watchword.

Good Lord no, we should carry on destroying everything around us, and making everyones life a misery so we can all be on an equal footing :rolleyes:


I see they got to Penny Lane too (can't be bothered to link)

Hugh 19-06-2020 14:17
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36040413)
Good Lord no, we should carry on destroying everything around us, and making everyones life a misery so we can all be on an equal footing :rolleyes:


I see they got to Penny Lane too (can't be bothered to link)
One statue...

Mr. Hyperbole appears to be busting your posts. ;)

heero_yuy 19-06-2020 14:33
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Quote from Hugh:
Sounds like a made up story to stoke outrage, as "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" was used during the Civil Rights marches in the USA in the 1960s.
Being reported on numerous press web sites including BBC news. I think it's unlikely that the BBC would run a story that wasn't authentic?

But then the standards at the BBC are in terminal decline.

papa smurf 19-06-2020 14:41
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36040416)
Being reported on numerous press web sites including BBC news. I think it's unlikely that the BBC would run a story that wasn't authentic?

But then the standards at the BBC are in terminal decline.
Let's hope they get rid of rap and hip hop and all that related rubbish;)

Carth 19-06-2020 14:45
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040415)
One statue...

Mr. Hyperbole appears to be busting your posts. ;)

go for a drive, test your eyes ;)

Paul 19-06-2020 16:08
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040410)
Sounds like a made up story to stoke outrage, as "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" was used during the Civil Rights marches in the USA in the 1960s.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36040335)
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The Rugby Football Union (RFU) is reviewing England fans' use of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, saying many do not know about its links with slavery.
Latest BBC article : https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53096584

Damien 19-06-2020 17:45
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
No one is really calling on the RFU to ban it though, they seem to have taken on the reviews themselves.

downquark1 19-06-2020 17:50
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36040434)
No one is really calling on the RFU to ban it though, they seem to have taken on the reviews themselves.
Right so either:
a) they are scared of potential scrutiny
b) they are using it get attention

1andrew1 19-06-2020 17:54
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36040434)
No one is really calling on the RFU to ban it though, they seem to have taken on the reviews themselves.
Yes, they're just being thoughtful and reflective.

Damien 19-06-2020 18:09
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36040435)
Right so either:
a) they are scared of potential scrutiny
b) they are using it get attention
I think it's just organisations are proactively trying to consider these things and occasionally missing the mark, or even just getting too much attention for what they assume are just cautious steps.

There now seems to be an attempt to put some of the more frivolous issues front and centre as opposed to issues such as if they are inequalities in the justice system, if there is systematic racism in society and has Britain confronted the issue of it's past sufficiently. You could argue that song might fall under the last bracket but really it's not something people have paid attention too. Instead, they've been focusing on more obvious examples such as the Rhodes statue.

Outside of Twitter has anyone seen any real campaign to change Uncle Ben's rice or Swing Low, Sweet Chariot? It's manufactured outrage. People want silly examples to get outraged about rather than serious ones.

downquark1 19-06-2020 18:17
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
This is not a attempt to put frivolous things forward. This is a scapegoat response from people who don't know how to wash the sin away. They look at the systems and either cannot see a way to reduce racism or are prohibited someway.

Truth is the definition of systemic racism is so flexible that it cannot be solved meaningfully.

papa smurf 19-06-2020 18:55
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36040440)
I think it's just organisations are proactively trying to consider these things and occasionally missing the mark, or even just getting too much attention for what they assume are just cautious steps.

There now seems to be an attempt to put some of the more frivolous issues front and centre as opposed to issues such as if they are inequalities in the justice system, if there is systematic racism in society and has Britain confronted the issue of it's past sufficiently. You could argue that song might fall under the last bracket but really it's not something people have paid attention too. Instead, they've been focusing on more obvious examples such as the Rhodes statue.

Outside of Twitter has anyone seen any real campaign to change Uncle Ben's rice or Swing Low, Sweet Chariot? It's manufactured outrage. People want silly examples to get outraged about rather than serious ones.
It keeps the woke warriors happy.

Hugh 19-06-2020 19:03
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36040443)
It keeps the woke warriors happy.
It also allows some people to call people they disagree with "woke", which some people think is an insult.

Better "woke" than "broke"... ;)

nomadking 19-06-2020 19:24
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040444)
It also allows some people to call people they disagree with "woke", which some people think is an insult.

Better "woke" than "broke"... ;)
It's the ones that are not "woke" that are being fired or forced to resign, and therefore ending up broke.


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