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awesometeeth 11-06-2018 12:36

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Khenryashley (Post 35950100)
Got to agree. The football was not as impressive as planet earth.
What we don’t know is what format they were filmed in.
Have both been filmed in 4K or upscaled from HD.

a green field with men running about or slow mo animals in a vivid and varied beautiful landscape!

when the CL final was on, switching between the two versions showed up the difference.

marlman 11-06-2018 13:11

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
If i plug my V6 box into HDMI 1 I get the Planet Earth demo if I plug it into HDMI 2 I get the football rolling demo.

So am I right in thinking that it should be in HDMI 2 to get the World Cup?

I will try both when it starts streaming.

It’s a Sony XE9005 TV

BenMcr 11-06-2018 13:16

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
According to Sony, all the HDMI ports should do it - as long as you've activated Enhanced format:
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/s...icles/00167580

EDIT: Sony's content is confusing - for 4K 60fps (which is what the iPlayer content is), then yes it's HDMI 2 or 3:
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/s...icles/00167110

mot12 11-06-2018 19:20

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Yeah enhanced needs to be set.

Get this, last night the V6 actually locked in on HLG and switched my TV into HDR(HLG)mode, with just the 1080i ticked and passthrough options ticked.

But.. my TV said it was 1080i and not 2160p. lol So that's TV into HDR mode for the trial but TV says it was 1080i. How weird. Half way there then, still only having just 2160p and 2160p passthrough ticked gets you all the way there.

DVD Cinema 11-06-2018 22:47

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...hread-id/38816

Mr K 11-06-2018 23:37

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema (Post 35950186)

It maybe 1 minute behind broadcast ! Can they call that 'live'? If next door is on Freeview, you may get plenty of notice on goals!

DVD Cinema 12-06-2018 00:11

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Cable is behind Freeview anyway.

Mr K 12-06-2018 08:23

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema (Post 35950196)
Cable is behind Freeview anyway.

Meaning it could be longer than a minute behind freeview (cable delay + uhd streaming delay).

It could be a couple of penalties behind in a shoot out - you could check whether next door are crying or singing before continuing to watch !? ;)

BenMcr 12-06-2018 09:46

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35950191)
It maybe 1 minute behind broadcast ! Can they call that 'live'? If next door is on Freeview, you may get plenty of notice on goals!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema (Post 35950196)
Cable is behind Freeview anyway.

This is iPlayer being behind, not either Cable or Freeview. Will be the same delay no matter who your normal TV provider is or which device you're accessing the iPlayer UHD trial on.

Mr K 12-06-2018 09:54

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35950238)
This is iPlayer being behind, not either Cable or Freeview. Will be the same delay no matter who your normal TV provider is or which device you're accessing the iPlayer UHD trial on.

So if you want the football as live as can be being there is best(!), closely followed by the radio and freeview. There has always been a delay with cable, particularly noticeable on Sky Sports if you're trying to sync radio commentary which is way ahead ! And this is before the UHD streaming delay is added in.

Bob 12-06-2018 09:58

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Aren't the streams on BBC iPlayer always about a minute behind? I don't think this is a UHD specific issue.

BenMcr 12-06-2018 09:59

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35950241)
So if you want the football as live as can be being there is best(!), closely followed by the radio and freeview. There has always been a delay with cable, particularly noticeable on Sky Sports if you're trying to sync radio commentary which is way ahead ! And this is before the UHD streaming delay is added in.

There isn't a cable+UHD delay.

There is an iPlayer delay from the UHD live feed the BBC are taking the football from.

So whether you're watching iPlayer UHD on the V6, or via your built in iPlayer app when you're using Freeview on your TV, you'll get the same delay.

Mr K 12-06-2018 10:17

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35950243)
There isn't a cable+UHD delay.

There is an iPlayer delay from the UHD live feed the BBC are taking the football from.

So whether you're watching iPlayer UHD on the V6, or via your built in iPlayer app when you're using Freeview on your TV, you'll get the same delay.

Was talking about normal Freeview Ben, not UHD stream. The price for UHD is for the game not to be 'live'.

Rob King 12-06-2018 12:55

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Heres a good thought if i dont get a UHD slot for the football World Cup can i claim a Tv licence fee refund as i will only watch the World Cup games and i dont watch anything else on the BBC using my Licence, i pay my Licence and demand i use my License fee to get a slot, thats my rant for the day lol

BenMcr 12-06-2018 13:00

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 35950280)
Heres a good thought if i dont get a UHD slot for the football World Cup can i claim a Tv licence fee refund as i will only watch the World Cup games and i dont watch anything else on the BBC using my Licence, i pay my Licence and demand i use my License fee to get a slot, thats my rant for the day lol

Your licence fee covers access to BBC content, it doesn't specify the format.

The World Cup will also be in HD on iPlayer. The UHD streams are additional to the standard coverage.


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