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Jong1 29-09-2016 18:11
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
The new TiVo (as I understand it) does away with the internal modem altogether.

muppetman11 29-09-2016 18:23
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35861071)
Sorry, I thought it was rhetorical. :)

I'd like to imagine that a network PVR would have dedicated bandwidth, so would be unaffected by local congestion.
Thanks good to know that makes sense it would be seriously annoying if your areas congestion caused you issues when trying to watch your shows.

RichardCoulter 29-09-2016 20:36
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I wonder if local congestion is what's causing the TiVo to run slow?

People have noted that it seems worse in evening peak time, I've also noticed that it's worse in the early hours of the morning too when you'd think that demand would be low.

When it's really this bad you repeatedly get the "there's been an unexpected problem" error screen when attempting to get into 'My Shows'.

There's been suggestions that this is because it needs to access VM servers to perform some functions that I assumed would be done by the box itself.

Is this true and does it use the dedicated TiVo connection if it is?

jb66 29-09-2016 20:52
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35861101)
I wonder if local congestion is what's causing the TiVo to run slow?

People have noted that it seems worse in evening peak time, I've also noticed that it's worse in the early hours of the morning too when you'd think that demand would be low.

When it's really this bad you repeatedly get the "there's been an unexpected problem" error screen when attempting to get into 'My Shows'.

There's been suggestions that this is because it needs to access VM servers to perform some functions that I assumed would be done by the box itself.

Is this true and does it use the dedicated TiVo connection if it is?
No, navigating through menus doesnt have anything to do with congestion, even if you were to pull the white coax out the back of the box so it has no signal it will still be slow

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Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35861071)
Sorry, I thought it was rhetorical. :)

I'd like to imagine that a network PVR would have dedicated bandwidth, so would be unaffected by local congestion.
If its going through the hub how will virgin know what traffic is PVR?

Horizon 29-09-2016 21:03
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Well, it's almost October and still no news about the new tivo. About time we had the details now, assuming its still launching this year. Very surprised at the lack of leaks.

jb66 29-09-2016 21:12
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35861112)
Well, it's almost October and still no news about the new tivo. About time we had the details now, assuming its still launching this year. Very surprised at the lack of leaks.
What do you want to know?

denphone 29-09-2016 21:13
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35861112)
Well, it's almost October and still no news about the new tivo. About time we had the details now, assuming its still launching this year. Very surprised at the lack of leaks.
Patience Horizon....;)

vm_tech 29-09-2016 22:20
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Even if you were in a highly utilised area, tivos lock onto docsis1 (although they can use the docsis 3 frequencies with no bonding, but I've only seen this a couple of times) all the d1 CMTS basically have the odd modem and the return path for stb's

Horizon 29-09-2016 22:44
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35861113)
What do you want to know?
Everything, but especially what can it do and what will it cost? And I think its already been mentioned that it will use the same software as current boxes, but I want this confirmed. I don't really see how the new boxes can be so much faster using the same software.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35861115)
Patience Horizon....;)
BUt like everyone facing price rises and considering leaving VM, I want to know when the new tivo is coming and what it will cost? I am patient, but VM is not if I want to get out of contract due to the rises.

OLD BOY 29-09-2016 22:59
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35861126)
Everything, but especially what can it do and what will it cost? And I think its already been mentioned that it will use the same software as current boxes, but I want this confirmed. I don't really see how the new boxes can be so much faster using the same software.

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BUt like everyone facing price rises and considering leaving VM, I want to know when the new tivo is coming and what it will cost? I am patient, but VM is not if I want to get out of contract due to the rises.
Doubtless, there will be plenty more price rises coming down the line, Horizon!

jb66 29-09-2016 23:34
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vm_tech (Post 35861122)
Even if you were in a highly utilised area, tivos lock onto docsis1 (although they can use the docsis 3 frequencies with no bonding, but I've only seen this a couple of times) all the d1 CMTS basically have the odd modem and the return path for stb's
Whats that got to do with the v6?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35861126)
Everything, but especially what can it do and what will it cost? And I think its already been mentioned that it will use the same software as current boxes, but I want this confirmed. I don't really see how the new boxes can be so much faster using the same software.

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BUt like everyone facing price rises and considering leaving VM, I want to know when the new tivo is coming and what it will cost? I am patient, but VM is not if I want to get out of contract due to the rises.
What we know so far:


They use the same software as the Tivo, they are really quick, when you press MyShows, its loaded in the blink of an eye.
It has a RF remote so you can put in in a cupboard.
Its small, its about the same size as a VHD
It doesnt have a modem built in, it connects via wifi or ethernet.
It has 6 tuners

Nedkelly 29-09-2016 23:35
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
After having a play with one of these boxes i can assure you it is fast . BBC player loads very quick . :)

Horizon 29-09-2016 23:40
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
.... but so did the original tivo when it was launched? Does it use the same software as jb66 said it does? If so, that's worrying for a start.

When are we going to get the details? When, when , when.....

Nedkelly 29-09-2016 23:43
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Makes the Tivo when it started still look slow . if i was to put the 2 boxes side by side the layout on screen is the same .It needs a cable modem to deliver some of the services as others have said it has ditched the inbuilt cable modem .;)

denphone 30-09-2016 07:03
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35861134)
Doubtless, there will be plenty more price rises coming down the line, Horizon!
Indeed that happens with all the companies out there in the market...


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