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Ignitionnet 04-09-2016 12:04

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Really, Jeremy? In my experience women rather like the time away, and I can't say I like the implication that men specifically would rather be at the boozer than with their kids.

21st century paging Mr Corbyn.

martyh 04-09-2016 13:01

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So Jeremy attends an early evening,male dominated networking drinks party at CBI HQ and promptly tells everyone else it's a bad thing to do.....seriously couldn't make this stuff up :rolleyes:

Ignitionnet 04-09-2016 13:32

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Interesting data from YouGov.

Ignitionnet 07-09-2016 23:01

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Back to PMQs today. Corbyn's performance was abysmal as always, reciting written down questions, not reacting appropriately to May's responses, which were poor, and producing a topic that is not news worthy and will achieve nothing.

The week of a rather uncomfortable G20 meeting for the UK where the USA told us we were nuts for Brexit and Japan listed a variety of warnings for their future investment, amongst other things, he has the chance to really get at the apparent complete lack of progress towards Brexit and show up the lack of a plan.

He asks canned questions on housing, important but there's a time and a place, and doesn't react when the PM comes out with a response that's simply inaccurate.

He is a joke. He is such a joke it's impacting on May's performance, she's nothing to work with.

The opposition came, again, from the SNP today, asking relevant and timely questions.

rhyds 08-09-2016 08:40

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As I've said before, Corbyn really doesn't care about the day-to-day work of being the leader of HM loyal opposition. Neither is he skilled at debating or arguing why his plans are the right ones.

martyh 08-09-2016 17:39

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Originally Posted by rhyds (Post 35858294)
As I've said before, Corbyn really doesn't care about the day-to-day work of being the leader of HM loyal opposition. Neither is he skilled at debating or arguing why his plans are the right ones.

So what's the point of him ?

rhyds 08-09-2016 18:15

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35858348)
So what's the point of him ?

Your guess is as good as mine...

But to be serious, his job is to let the really nasty Marxist/Trotskyite types, which were thrown out of the party 30 years ago, back in and let them take over the machinery of the Labour party so they can take their rightful place in government.

Unfortunately, they don't seem to realise that the public don't really care for them...

heero_yuy 08-09-2016 18:24

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35858348)
So what's the point of him ?

A Lightning rod for militant tendency. Labour to become the party of protest, not government. Much like the discredited Lib Dems.

Osem 11-09-2016 10:08

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Labour has suspended a prominent donor over an article he wrote in which Jeremy Corbyn's leadership bid team were likened to Nazi stormtroopers.
Michael Foster wrote that Mr Corbyn and his team had "no respect for others and worse, no respect for the rule of law".
Labour said the suspension was for allegedly breaching election rules which ban "abuse of any kind".
Mr Foster said he had been highlighting Mr Corbyn's "leadership cadre" and did not use the word Nazi himself.
The article for the Mail on Sunday was headlined: "'Why I despise Jeremy Corbyn and his Nazi stormtroopers', by Jewish Labour donor".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37329153

More bad news for Corbyn and his nasty cronies.

It says a great deal about those who're so desperate to back him that they continue to see a completely out of touch idiot as a useful tool, let alone the inspirational leader who'll take them and their delusional politics into power.

papa smurf 11-09-2016 11:36

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35858637)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37329153

More bad news for Corbyn and his nasty cronies.

It says a great deal about those who're so desperate to back him that they continue to see a completely out of touch idiot as a useful tool, let alone the inspirational leader who'll take them and their delusional politics into power.

but the alternative is this numpty who clearly hates democracy and would probably spark off a civil war
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/709...me-minister-eu

Osem 11-09-2016 13:26

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35858644)
but the alternative is this numpty who clearly hates democracy and would probably spark off a civil war
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/709...me-minister-eu

You do have to wonder how Labour has 'evolved' into a party in which the only serious challenger to an out of touch lefty dinosaur is a total tool. Is the rose tinted cupboard really that bare? Where are the 'heavweights' who not too long ago would have been or seen themselves as cabinet members? FGS just look at Corbyn's shadow cabinet. Who'd have thought things could be so bad that Miliband and Balls would seem almost credible when compared to the current incumbents.

Ignitionnet 11-09-2016 17:08

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Henry Louis Mencken, a prominent newspaperman and political commentator during the first half of the 20th century, wrote an article for Baltimore Evening Sun on 26 July 1920 titled "Bayard vs. Lionheart," which stated the following:

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
The USA is trying; we're blazing the trail, though.

Osem 11-09-2016 20:19

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Another seriously high calibre Labour cabinet member:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37332287

:D

Damien 11-09-2016 21:53

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35858671)
You do have to wonder how Labour has 'evolved' into a party in which the only serious challenger to an out of touch lefty dinosaur is a total tool. Is the rose tinted cupboard really that bare? Where are the 'heavweights' who not too long ago would have been or seen themselves as cabinet members? FGS just look at Corbyn's shadow cabinet. Who'd have thought things could be so bad that Miliband and Balls would seem almost credible when compared to the current incumbents.

Well they have been sidelined. Miliband opened up the membership to try and dilute the power of the union bosses over the party. The UK however doesn't have mass membership of political parties so this new membership system saw a committed bunch of activists come in and take over the party.

Osem 11-09-2016 21:56

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35858769)
Well they have been sidelined. Miliband opened up the membership to try and dilute the power of the union bosses over the party. The UK however doesn't have mass membership of political parties so this new membership system saw a committed bunch of activists come in and take over the party.

I always said that he was a fool. Can you imagine where we'd be if he'd been PM? Ah well... it's a lot more entertaining than a good deal of comedy on TV anyway. :)


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