Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Jeez talk about kooky tin-foil hat! ;)



I got shot down when I even mentioned the consiracy to profile everyone as supported by the EVIDENCE here!

http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi...topic.php?5080




But getting back to the "minor" matter of Phormscum, even you must appreciate peoples absolute horror of having the Intra-ISP Spyware parasite installed at the connection entry point of the Internet... At least with the likes of Double-click and Google we have a chance of escaping their predacious stalking/profiling... With Phorm at the starting gate there is no escape.

Simon whatever you do now you will be damned unless Phorm is completely destroyed and you come back with some clever post-analysis explanation of your privacy stratergy. How did you ever put yourself in this most unenviable position, surely if you didn't have to provide yourself a living and had enough money to be completely independent you would be on this side of the line attacking Phorm for the **** malware parasite that they are. :(

Are you going to "Opt-in" when Phorm is available on your home Internet provider?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

@OldBear.
Yup, I'm a BT user/poster from there myself but more or less gave up following the closure of the 1st 2 threads. The mention of Phorm/Webwise was actualluy in a newish thread which had nothing to do with this subject at all. Folk were complaining/discussing another aspect of their "service" with which they were not satisfied and Phorm came up as an added future possible bugbear.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Add to this Video of the public meeting in the hands of Phorm and not released as promised.

Only videos we know of online website hacked by Russian scriptors malicious script placed so anyone visiting had a iframe ( which is what phorm uses to hijack the conection) used to download a redirect for more molicious script to download in the background.

80/20 report delayed.

Infact the best for all is the plug be pulled on all this, Simon from 80/20 revist everyones worries and take a second look at our security which phorm cannot give with Kent and russian scriptors.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hey Pete another one for the 'Phorm vs Google' debate over on BadPhorm.

http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi...topic.php?5233



Google is a predator
Phorm is a parasite

We are victims

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Oh, I never saw that, so thanks for the info, mate; I'll go and have a shuftie.

Mind you, if it's like it's always been the thread will get removed, so I best be quick.

A Plan of Action
 

Write to your MP
Write to your ISP: Virgin Media; BT; TalkTalk
Write to your EU representative
Sign the Downing Street petition
Serve a section 11 Data Protection Notice on your ISP
Watch this
Read this
Go here for a summary
BT, Virgin Media and Talk Talk ISP addresses
Sample letters

Spread the word on the web and ask everyone you know to do the same.

And if you are lurking, please sign up and get stuck in!

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

hmmm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...ding/comments/
"
Phorm allowed into the 'Anti-Phishing Working Group'

By phormwatch
Posted Saturday 3rd May 2008 19:59 GMT
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/05/33.png You're not going to believe this, but the APWG:
http://www.antiphishing.org/index.html
Has allowed Phorm to join their ranks, as you can see here:

http://www.antiphishing.org/sponsors.html
I suggest people write to the APWG and 'inphorm' them about Phorms background and illegal activities:
http://www.antiphishing.org/contactus.html
"

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

One question I raised earlier - is there a contractual commitment to place the PIA in the public domain, or does 80/20's remit end once the PIA is handed over to Phorm? (As you can guess, this concern follows on from what happened with the video).

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I suspect the PIA belongs to the client (like the video). It remains to be seen if the statement "publish and be damned" will be realised.

Re: A Plan of Action
 

Also:

BT, Virgin Media and Talk Talk ISP addresses at:
http://www.inphormationdesk.org/ispcontacts.htm

Sample letters at:
http://www.inphormationdesk.org/sampleletters.htm

Re: A Plan of Action
 

Thank you. Thought it would be a good idea to get this all in one place for joiners :)

Re: A Plan of Action
 

Good post Kursk! .. and I think we've all been 'distracted' by this 80/20 Thinking/Privacy International merry-go-round for way too long!! .. it's wasted energy in my view, and not where the real battle lies!
Hounding Simon at every turn and trying to trip him up with clever word play is not getting us anywhere ..

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hmmm, MS IE7 has antiphishing turned off by default. Lets stop and think about this for a moment. Why?

Well because it means that you are sending aspects (not even all) of your data stream to MS to check for Phishing and they did not want the world sending their data streams there without the world knowing they were doing it. The sort of class action that could even manage to cripple MS.

Yet Phorm wants to be on by default.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

To be precise, having just installed IE7, it asks you whether you want to have antiphishing turned on or off.

But your point still stands absolutely - Microsoft provides a choice with IE7, but Phorm wants to be on by default.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

:gpoint: