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Re: Starmer’s chronicles

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36188811)

Meaning, I think, politicians happy for girls to be raped and not be investigated for fear of losing the islamic vote.

and thats ALL politicians

As you probably have gathered, I don't hold a lot of our politicians in high esteem, but I think that is one conspiracy theory that even the Sunday Sport would rule out as being too crazy!

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Victoria Derbyshire issued a list of CSE Enquiries in the last 12 years.

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Here’s a non-exhaustive list of inquiries that have been carried where vulnerable girls were subjected to horrific abuse by ‘predominantly Asian men’ acc to Jan 2020 Gtr Manc report 👇

ROCHDALE Dec 2013
Serious case review by Rochdale Safeguarding Children Board highlighted failures by 17 agencies who were meant to protect kids

https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-25450512

GTR MANCHESTER Jan 2020 - Gtr Manc-wide Independent Review commissioned by Mayor
@AndyBurnhamGM

Part 1
https://greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/...er-manchester/

OLDHAM June 2022 – Burnham-commissioned review Part 2
https://greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/...al-version.pdf

ROCHDALE Jan 2024 - Burnham-commissioned review Part 3
https://greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/...ry-2024-v3.pdf

ROTHERHAM 2014 - independent inquiry into child sexual exploitation by Alexis Jay which covered CSE in the town 1997-2013

https://rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/d...am-1997---2013

ROTHERHAM 2015 - Louise Casey looked at whether Rotherham Coucil was ‘fit for purpose’ given their abdication of responsibility for vulnerable kids

https://assets.publishing.service.go...format__4_.pdf

TELFORD Jul 2022

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...VOLUME+ONE.pdf

UK-WIDE Child Sexual Exploitation - Home Affairs Select Committee June 2013
https://publications.parliament.uk/p...aff/68/68i.pdf

And of course the wide-ranging 468 page Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse which took 7 years to complete, published in 2022 led by Alexis Jay

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/

In June 2023 Professor Jay and the Victims & Survivors Consultative Panel said: “We are deeply disappointed that the Conservative gov has not accepted the full package of recommendations made in the final report. In some instances, the gov has stated that a number of them will be subject to consultations, despite the extensive research & evidence-taking which the Inquiry carried out over 7 years’

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...905082682.html

Professor Jay's latest comments

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Victims "clearly want action" and do not need a new national inquiry into grooming gangs, the woman who led a seven-year probe into child sexual abuse has said.

Prof Alexis Jay told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "people should get on with" implementing her recommendations and "locally people need to step up to the mark and do the things that have been recommended".

"We've had enough of inquiries, consultations and discussions - especially for the victims and survivors who've had the courage to come forward," she said.

The Conservatives and Reform UK have called for a national inquiry into grooming gangs after the subject came under the spotlight, in part due to interventions on social media from Elon Musk.

But asked if a new national inquiry would hinder the implementation of her recommendations, Prof Jay said: "It would certainly cause delays."

The Labour government has rejected calls for a new national inquiry, saying it will implement the recommendations of the Jay Review.

Prof Jay, who chaired the Independent Inquiry into Child Sex Abuse (IICSA), said the row over calls for a new inquiry was "distracting from the issues".

She said she was "very unhappy with the politicisation of child sexual exploitation" done in a "very uninformed way".

However Prof Jay added that the row may have given "some kind of impetus to move forward" after the home secretary announced a new offence to prosecute those who cover up or fail to report child sexual abuse.

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Victims "clearly want action" and do not need a new national inquiry into grooming gangs, the woman who led a seven-year probe into child sexual abuse has said.

People are just weaponising the suffering of these poor children for their selfish political ends.

If they really cared about children's safety, they would have been pushing the previous government to implement the report's recommendations.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36188814)

weaponising by sweeping it under the carpet to gain votes and possibly protect the guilty.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36188818)

weaponising by sweeping it under the carpet to gain votes and possibly protect the guilty.

Worked well for the Tories.

Re: Starmer’s chronicles

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36188819)

Worked well for the Tories.

If that's the case then you'll be ok with a new full inquiry?

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I wouldn’t not be ok with it, I just don’t see what new information will be found after the previous recent one.

Just seems like a pointless delay if nothing new comes up.

Re: Starmer’s chronicles

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36188821)

I wouldn’t not be ok with it, I just don’t see what new information will be found after the previous recent one.

Just seems like a pointless delay if nothing new comes up.

i would say I'm surprised by your answer, but your so predictable

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36188822)

i would say I'm surprised by your answer, but your so predictable

What should a new enquiry cover that the previous ones didn't?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36188822)

i would say I'm surprised by your answer, but your so predictable

Pot, meet kettle

Re: Starmer’s chronicles

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36188824)

Pot, meet kettle

:rofl: bless

Re: Starmer’s chronicles

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36188812)

As you probably have gathered, I don't hold a lot of our politicians in high esteem, but I think that is one conspiracy theory that even the Sunday Sport would rule out as being too crazy!

OK maybe "happy" is being disingenuous, but I'm sure many were happy not to turn over too many stones for fear of losing the islamic vote and/or being labelled racist, after seeing how such accusations were labelled at Sarah Champion and Anne Cryer

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As said today, we need action , not more inquiries, just to desperately try and score political points. The last govt did sweet fa.

Re: Starmer’s chronicles

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36188813)

Victoria Derbyshire issued a list of CSE Enquiries in the last 12 years.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...905082682.html

Professor Jay's latest comments

Clearly not enough, as there have been something 50 towns/cities implicated.

There needs to be an over arching national enquiry that covers everything, especially the culture that enabled it to continue.

Re: Starmer’s chronicles

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36188827)

As said today, we need action , not more inquiries, just to desperately try and score political points. The last govt did sweet fa.

What's the timeline for action?