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Saaf_laandon_mo 13-06-2007 18:30

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I was reading that article in the BBC and it says that a paedophile is on remand for the murder of the 2 girls (Abdullah Ait Oud). I assume the Belgian police thing Oud killed the 2 girls and subsequently wrote the letter? If so then this is either a copy cat, or could be that the Belgian police have got the wrong man.

jkat 14-06-2007 10:19

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34327720)
If so then this is either a copy cat, or could be that the Belgian police have got the wrong man.

its possible that this paedo is/was working with other paedo's as they sometimes do.:disturbd:

TheDaddy 28-06-2007 22:02

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
There are no depths some people won't sink to, it seems :(

He added that he could not confirm reports that the arrests were in connection with an attempt to extort money from the McCanns

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6251266.stm

TheDaddy 07-08-2007 09:26

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
How did the miss this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1811&ct=5

Chris 07-08-2007 10:32

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34369891)

Is it still considered unacceptably colonial and arrogant to doubt the abilities of Johnny Foreigner when it comes to this sort of thing?

I am assuming that someone in the Government must think so at the very least, or else why are Leicestershire's finest boys in blue crawling all over Praia Da Luz like a rash? They clearly think they have the techniques and the resources to find something that the Portuguese police can't, even on their home turf.

zing_deleted 07-08-2007 10:44

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Well it could be anyones blood. Perhaps some guy smacked his misses the week before or another chap punched someone in the gob and caused it

TheNorm 07-08-2007 11:02

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34369904)
Is it still considered unacceptably colonial and arrogant to doubt the abilities of Johnny Foreigner when it comes to this sort of thing?....

I bet the Mail would have had something to say if Brazilian "CSI" had come to London to investigate after Jean Charles de Menezes was shot dead at Stockwell Tube station.

punky 07-08-2007 11:05

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Are they suggesting that Maddy might have died in an accident and the McCann's came back and cleaned/covered up?

Am I reading the article right?

TheNorm 07-08-2007 11:08

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34369928)
Are they suggesting that Maddy might have died in an accident and the McCann's came back and cleaned/covered up?...

There is blood on the wall that was cleaned up. Could have happened months before the McCann's arrived. Like Mr Zinglebarb said.

mrmistoffelees 07-08-2007 11:16

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheNorm (Post 34369931)
There is blood on the wall that was cleaned up. Could have happened months before the McCann's arrived. Like Mr Zinglebarb said.


Correct, what is worrying is it took thirteen weeks for them to locate it ! Also the forensic investigation conducted by the Portugese authorities has been at best laxidasical.

TheNorm 07-08-2007 11:23

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34369934)
Correct, what is worrying is it took thirteen weeks for them to locate it ! ....

Well, they might have seen old blood stains when they first entered the room (hours after the disappearance), and dismissed them as not useful to the investigation. It is a bit unfair to criticise people based on reports in the newspapers.

mrmistoffelees 07-08-2007 11:30

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheNorm (Post 34369938)
Well, they might have seen old blood stains when they first entered the room (hours after the disappearance), and dismissed them as not useful to the investigation. It is a bit unfair to criticise people based on reports in the newspapers.

In a forensic investigation of a crime scene NOTHING is dismissed.

The Portugese equivalents of our SOCO (or CSI's as they are now known thanks to the program :) ) On noticing should have immedialtely sampled and also done whats known as a blood pattern analysis. Only with these results should they dismiss.

Saaf_laandon_mo 07-08-2007 11:31

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I think the Portuguese police are being criticised unfairly, and as TheNorm says, unfair to criticise them based on reports in the press.

The danger is that they, the Portuguese, might get a bit peeved off and it could influence the manner in which they continue conducting the investigation.

mrmistoffelees 07-08-2007 11:36

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34369941)
I think the Portuguese police are being criticised unfairly, and as TheNorm says, unfair to criticise them based on reports in the press.

The danger is that they, the Portuguese, might get a bit peeved off and it could influence the manner in which they continue conducting the investigation.

That would be the manner where British crime scene examiners were called over to assist with the forensic investigation (weeks ago) because the Portugese police were having difficulties ?

danielf 07-08-2007 11:38

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34369940)
In a forensic investigation of a crime scene NOTHING is dismissed.

The Portugese equivalents of our SOCO (or CSI's as they are now known thanks to the program :) ) On noticing should have immedialtely sampled and also done whats known as a blood pattern analysis. Only with these results should they dismiss.

Quote:

Windows were blacked out with plastic sheeting and tape to let technicians use ultraviolet light to scan for fingerprints, fibres and minute specks of blood invisible to the naked eye.
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It's unlikely they'd have noticed with the naked eye.
Is this type of investigation routine for what appears to be an abduction? If not, it does seem the Portuguese Police are criticised harshly.


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