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alwaysabear 12-10-2013 23:57
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cityfan247 (Post 35631375)
currently on Bt and ESPN

ESPN College Football
BT1 MLB play-offs
BT2 College Football

as a big fan of North American sports this is heaven for me. all in HD :)

The BT/ESPN bundle is so much better than the old ESPN bundle for me.

after these games there are 2 more College Football games and another MLB game across the 3 channels simultaneously. Fantastic.
i have to agree.:D

The Yank 13-10-2013 10:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cityfan247 (Post 35631375)
currently on Bt and ESPN

ESPN College Football
BT1 MLB play-offs
BT2 College Football

as a big fan of North American sports this is heaven for me. all in HD :)

The BT/ESPN bundle is so much better than the old ESPN bundle for me.

after these games there are 2 more College Football games and another MLB game across the 3 channels simultaneously. Fantastic.
and me - I was skeptical when they took over ESPN but very very pleased how wrong I was - long may it continue. :D:D:D

harry_hitch 13-10-2013 11:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35630365)
So clubs and players will get richer as a result whilst we will to continue to pay more.

No-one is forced to pay more though Den. Ultimately, people simply choose to pay more.

Lostlam 17-10-2013 19:54
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Does anyone actually pay the full price for SS on VM, as it is such a rip off compared to it on Sky?

Risco 17-10-2013 20:28
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35631080)
Don't care, it was a stupid and shortsighted decision to sell to such a small player who has failed miserably in the past with premium rights.

Doug P 18-10-2013 13:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35633443)
Does anyone actually pay the full price for SS on VM, as it is such a rip off compared to it on Sky?
We've discussed this many times it is not a rip-off but it is higher as Sky dictate the cost as it is their channel set...

Lostlam 18-10-2013 13:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35633666)
We've discussed this many times it is not a rip-off but it is higher as Sky dictate the cost as it is their channel set...
I am aware of what Sky dictate mate, but the bottom line is it is more expensive. My question WAS whether people are actually paying for SS on VM?

Doug P 18-10-2013 13:51
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I was answering your description of it as a rip-off which it is not...

Lostlam 18-10-2013 14:02
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35633689)
I was answering your description of it as a rip-off which it is not...
Kl mate. I get your point, but from a comsumer 's POV; it is.

Doug P 18-10-2013 14:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35633698)
Kl mate. I get your point, but from a comsumer 's POV; it is.
It can be seen as that I agree, but it is a choice of which media people want especially in cabled areas...

As I have often said I am not allowed to have a dustbin lid stuck to my flat so cannot have Sky even if I wanted but I really prefer VM and am happy to pay a tad more for Sky Sports and Movies for what else VM provide....

andy_m 18-10-2013 16:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35633443)
Does anyone actually pay the full price for SS on VM, as it is such a rip off compared to it on Sky?
I don't, but then I'd already given up my Sky Sports subscription when I was a Sky customer, so the cost of the package on Virgin wasn't a consideration for me when I moved across. I did subscribe for 3 months earlier in the year when there was a half price offer on. For £12 it was excellent value, for nearly £30 it isn't. If it was £20 I'd probably still be there. I did enjoy having Sky Sports F1 as I don't really think the highlights shows that the BBC do for half of the races really do the job as well as I'd like, but for me there is plenty of football available on Virgin without having Sky Sports, and since they are probably the main two sports I watch on TV (and you'll see from my Avatar that I'm not well into the Premier League!) I'm quite happy without it.

But, as you'll see from your interaction with Doug P, the answer to your question is actually yes!

Lostlam 18-10-2013 18:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35633766)
I don't, but then I'd already given up my Sky Sports subscription when I was a Sky customer, so the cost of the package on Virgin wasn't a consideration for me when I moved across. I did subscribe for 3 months earlier in the year when there was a half price offer on. For £12 it was excellent value, for nearly £30 it isn't. If it was £20 I'd probably still be there. I did enjoy having Sky Sports F1 as I don't really think the highlights shows that the BBC do for half of the races really do the job as well as I'd like, but for me there is plenty of football available on Virgin without having Sky Sports, and since they are probably the main two sports I watch on TV (and you'll see from my Avatar that I'm not well into the Premier League!) I'm quite happy without it.

But, as you'll see from your interaction with Doug P, the answer to your question is actually yes!
Cheers for your reply. It is surprising people would be willing to pay the full cost for just SS SD channels on VM, but Doug's situation is slightly different. I recently had the SS half price offer, but it was only for a month.

I spoke to someone from VM, and they said it is to the discretion of each member of staff as to whether or not they offer you deals to keep you with them. It was quite shocking to hear, as customer should only receive offers that are advertised by VM, and not up to the person you are calling.

Doug P 19-10-2013 07:43
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Yes I take your point about the discretion but there is also the point that if a customer is rude and unpleasant on the phone to CS (and we've had people describing situations that prove this on CF) then why on Earth should VM or the representative offer a deal to someone like that?

Small point I know but it shows discretion is important.

Harryn9000 19-10-2013 12:58
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i pay 38 i think for movies and sport in hd which ain't a bad deal if only vm had a xbox to watch tv on like sky

paultrademark 19-10-2013 13:15
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Had the Sky Sports plus HD package a couple years back, was about £35 if I remember correctly.

Now we have BT Sports & ESPN free with TV XL and we use my partners mum's Sky Go login to watch any games via the laptop on the TV but not in HD obviously.

Can't justify paying what Sky/VM ask for Sports packages, it's a bit much at the moment.

cityfan247 19-10-2013 20:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35634068)
Had the Sky Sports plus HD package a couple years back, was about £35 if I remember correctly.

Now we have BT Sports & ESPN free with TV XL and we use my partners mum's Sky Go login to watch any games via the laptop on the TV but not in HD obviously.

Can't justify paying what Sky/VM ask for Sports packages, it's a bit much at the moment.
i agree

i used to have sky sports/movies (HD) on VM- i was paying over £110pm for my full package which at over £1300 a year for tv/tel &bb was getting a bit ridiculous.

got rid of the sky sports and movies-and downgraded other bits too- almost halved my bill. I had watched most of the films and as has already been said you dont get all the sports in HD anyway. If anyone from Sky reads this the fact you withhold stuff like Sky Sports F1, 3 and 4 in HD and Sky Atlantic from VM still doesnt make me want to bring my business to you!

I am ok to settle with the ESPN/BT bundle at no extra cost on my current pack and also have a relative from whom i can access Sky Go and watch Sky Sports that way (they dont have movies though). Though tbh whilst watching Sky Sports is nice theres really only Man City or Celtic game and NFL game i watch

i could probably live without it - i dont think my life would over- and certainly have no immediate plans to subscribe again at the current prices.

i was toying with the idea of occasionally getting Sky Sports & Movies for a month or two at a time- watch the films i want then cancel. But now with the imminent arrival of Netflix (and who knows Lovefilm) they might be a more cost effective option- ok you might have to wait a bit longer for the premieres but hardly the end of the world.

it would be interesting to know what the impact of the last couple of years recession has done to premium content subscriptions- i imagine many have also downgraded. This and the emergence of other streaming services may force Sky (and VM) to look again at their pricing rather just announce increase after increase- well you can hope cant you

OLD BOY 21-10-2013 12:58
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35633689)
I was answering your description of it as a rip-off which it is not...
It is a rip off, Doug, but it is a Sky rip off.

johnathome 21-10-2013 15:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35633452)
Don't care, it was a stupid and shortsighted decision to sell to such a small player who has failed miserably in the past with premium rights.
Same with the NHL rights matey :(

Doug P 21-10-2013 17:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35634744)
It is a rip off, Doug, but it is a Sky rip off.
Yes that is true

alwaysabear 21-10-2013 18:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35634850)
Same with the NHL rights matey :(
The people who run the NHL seem oblivious to the interest in the NHL in this country. :(

johnathome 21-10-2013 18:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35634934)
The people who run the NHL seem oblivious to the interest in the NHL in this country. :(
Yep, the interest certainly won't improve with them being where they are.

alwaysabear 21-10-2013 23:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35634972)
Yep, the interest certainly won't improve with them being where they are.
I wrote several emails to to the NHL and the company who were dealing with selling the rights pointing out the need for their product to be shown on a more readily available channel. I did not receive a single reply which in my eyes shows they really don't care which is a shame for me and many other NHL fans in this country. To enjoy the NHL you really need HD and Premier Sports cannot offer this yet!.
I do miss Hockey Night in Canada and watching my Bruins play. I will have to make do with clips on the Internet.

Arthurgray50@blu 22-10-2013 19:32
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Is anyone having trouble getting Sky Sports. TW is down

Bofrok 22-10-2013 19:33
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Yes all Sky Sports down for me (don't have HD)

denphone 22-10-2013 19:34
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Yes ours is down as well.

paultrademark 22-10-2013 19:39
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Working ok via Sky Go

Bofrok 22-10-2013 19:41
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Working okay now after I went up and down one channel.

denphone 22-10-2013 19:44
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Back up now just before the footie starts.

Chad 22-10-2013 20:04
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It's been lashing down all day and my SKY has been fine. That cable network is too unreliable :D

thenry 22-10-2013 22:44
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ITV went down on Sky during the Arsenal vs Dortmund game. It was fine on VM. :p:

denphone 23-10-2013 06:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35635420)
It's been lashing down all day and my SKY has been fine. That cable network is too unreliable :D
Perhaps its been getting lessons from your famed crystal ball.:D

howardmicks 23-10-2013 06:52
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Premier sports are we getting it for free ????? This was on twitter
I hear that a deal has been struck so Virgin Media viewers can watch the @RLWC2013 on Premier Sports for free.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesgord...=jamesgordon67

Media Boy UK 23-10-2013 12:43
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I watch Baker and Kelly: v.S.P.O on BT Sport 1 HD every Friday night but what is v.S.P.O stand for?

Someone I know thinks it maybe Baker and Kelly: v.S.P.O (Vs Sky sPorts One):)

Bofrok 23-10-2013 13:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35635656)
I watch Baker and Kelly: v.S.P.O on BT Sport 1 HD every Friday night but what is v.S.P.O stand for?

Someone I know thinks it maybe Baker and Kelly: v.S.P.O (Vs Sky sPorts One):)
Apparently it's "Vaguely Sporting Phone-Out" (or maybe not) according to http://sport.bt.com/watchnow/program...11363816060241

Media Boy UK 23-10-2013 14:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bofrok (Post 35635675)
Apparently it's "Vaguely Sporting Phone-Out" (or maybe not) according to http://sport.bt.com/watchnow/program...11363816060241
Thanks for info.

johnathome 23-10-2013 17:03
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35635099)
I wrote several emails to to the NHL and the company who were dealing with selling the rights pointing out the need for their product to be shown on a more readily available channel. I did not receive a single reply which in my eyes shows they really don't care which is a shame for me and many other NHL fans in this country. To enjoy the NHL you really need HD and Premier Sports cannot offer this yet!.
I do miss Hockey Night in Canada and watching my Bruins play. I will have to make do with clips on the Internet.
I posted this in the other thread to rumours of a channel launching this week and as it is about Premier Sport i'll post here.

It's from this fella https://twitter.com/jamesgordon67

@Paul_Vikings trying to find out when something "official" is coming out. Believe that XL TV customers will start receiving Fri channel 551

OLD BOY 24-10-2013 12:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35635771)
I posted this in the other thread to rumours of a channel launching this week and as it is about Premier Sport i'll post here.

It's from this fella https://twitter.com/jamesgordon67

@Paul_Vikings trying to find out when something "official" is coming out. Believe that XL TV customers will start receiving Fri channel 551
I just cannot understand why official sources are so tight lipped. It's really infuriating! What difference does it make if we know about channel launches in advance?

alwaysabear 24-10-2013 13:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35636119)
I just cannot understand why official sources are so tight lipped. It's really infuriating! What difference does it make if we know about channel launches in advance?
Probably because they will not want egg on their face if for technical or other reasons it does not launch. You can imagine the furor on here and their official web site.

weststandguy 25-10-2013 05:18
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Well,it's up and running.
Bring on the RLWC.:cleader:

Sirius 25-10-2013 05:58
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weststandguy (Post 35636508)
Well,it's up and running.
Bring on the RLWC.:cleader:
This is excellent news :clap:

denphone 25-10-2013 08:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35636510)
This is excellent news :clap:
Ditto.

brooza 25-10-2013 09:53
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My parents also have it and they're on M or M+

spiderplant 25-10-2013 11:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brooza (Post 35636549)
My parents also have it and they're on M or M+
It's in the M-pack.

paultrademark 25-10-2013 11:12
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Is the PQ poor for everyone with Premier Sports?

OLD BOY 25-10-2013 12:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35636153)
Probably because they will not want egg on their face if for technical or other reasons it does not launch. You can imagine the furor on here and their official web site.
Well that happens anyway!

---------- Post added at 12:50 ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 ----------

http://www.totalrl.com/premier-sport...-for-rlwc2013/

alwaysabear 25-10-2013 15:14
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Great to see the Ice Hockey on VM. The picture quality is better than I was expecting after some of the comments, obviously it would be better to watch the NHL in HD.

smallclone 25-10-2013 15:53
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Nice to see more positive sports news. Is this just for the RLWC?

spiderplant 25-10-2013 15:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smallclone (Post 35636718)
Nice to see more positive sports news. Is this just for the RLWC?
No, it'll be available in all packs until the end of the year. It will become a standalone subscription channel in 2014, but the exact details have yet to be announced.

smallclone 25-10-2013 15:58
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Thanks. Good news.

Doug P 25-10-2013 16:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35636575)
Is the PQ poor for everyone with Premier Sports?
Just knew peeps wouldn't like the picture if we did get PS! ;)

Won't be paying for it come January...hasn't got anything on it that is for me other than the Rugby League cup and that is free....

alwaysabear 25-10-2013 16:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35636726)
Just knew peeps wouldn't like the picture if we did get PS! ;)

Won't be paying for it come January...hasn't got anything on it that is for me other than the Rugby League cup and that is free....
Depends how much they want, the only interest I have is Ice Hockey.

Doug P 25-10-2013 16:14
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MB is posting £7.99 a month on his blog.

If so that is simply too much imo....

alwaysabear 25-10-2013 16:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35636734)
MB is posting £7.99 a month on his blog.

If so that is simply too much imo....
Yes that's to much imo

TonyM19 25-10-2013 16:16
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I'll pay it, but only when the RL and the NRL season get under way (February).

I've been following this thread since it started, purely to get access to PS. This si like Christmas for me!

paultrademark 25-10-2013 16:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35636726)
Just knew peeps wouldn't like the picture if we did get PS! ;)
Is it a known issue then, what's it like on Sky?

Am interested in the NHL but honestly don't think I'd pay to watch that poor a PQ :(

Anypermitedroute 25-10-2013 16:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35636734)
MB is posting £7.99 a month on his blog.

If so that is simply too much imo....
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35636735)
Yes that's to much imo
I agree wholeheartedly with the above statements, however on the flip side Boxnation @ £10 (one sport) and no HD I dont remember when this was launched that people begrudged the price and there was no month free when launched on Virgin if I recall (there was a one month on Sky)

Doug P 25-10-2013 17:20
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I think my Box Nation fans would point out that the channel is a boxing specialist and is worth the money for that expertise and the fights covered especially considering the pay per fights charges that others charge?

Is that right folks?

---------- Post added at 17:20 ---------- Previous post was at 17:08 ----------

Just got in and turned on PS. Is not my sort of channel, but the sd pic seems no worse than many.....

cityfan247 25-10-2013 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35636735)
Yes that's to much imo
i agree - nice to see NHL- picture is ok but like you say has to be HD really.

£7.99 might still be cheaper than on sky but still too much for me as well for one sd channel with minimal content

alwaysabear 25-10-2013 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35636765)
I think my Box Nation fans would point out that the channel is a boxing specialist and is worth the money for that expertise and the fights covered especially considering the pay per fights charges that others charge?

Is that right folks?

---------- Post added at 17:20 ---------- Previous post was at 17:08 ----------

Just got in and turned on PS. Is not my sort of channel, but the sd pic seems no worse than many.....
I would pay for NFL Network should it ever become available on VM. So I can see why people pay for Box Nation.

Doug P 25-10-2013 17:40
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Given up with pool on PS. Listening to David Mellor on Bizet instead.

That says a lot for PS!

MaverickJesus 25-10-2013 17:54
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Sales aren't going to be good at £7.99 a month - In fact I'd probably go as far as saying PS may even make a loss on this, over the long term.

Sirius 25-10-2013 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35636575)
Is the PQ poor for everyone with Premier Sports?
Its excellent for me both on tv and via TvAnywhere

paultrademark 25-10-2013 19:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35636832)
Its excellent for me both on tv and via TvAnywhere
Just checked again and it looks better on the pre-recorded segments of this Cage Fighting programme, will check it when it's got a live fight on.

The football I watched this morning looked awful though.

---------- Post added at 19:09 ---------- Previous post was at 19:06 ----------

Hmm it's still pretty poor, with the outline of the fighters almost hazy at times.

I've not had any PQ issues with any other SD channels, well not that I watch them much so maybe it's just a perception thing as am used to watching HD (got a 50" LED Samsung telly)

thenry 25-10-2013 19:12
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andy_m 25-10-2013 20:20
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Free or not, after Monday night I can't bring myself to watch!

Chad 25-10-2013 21:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35636765)
I think my Box Nation fans would point out that the channel is a boxing specialist and is worth the money for that expertise and the fights covered especially considering the pay per fights charges that others charge?

Is that right folks?
For me Boxnation is great value. A dedicated boxing channel that shows live fights, classic fights, documentaries and general boxing chat shows pretty much 24/7. I wish they'd hurry up with their HD version!

denphone 26-10-2013 06:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35636878)
For me Boxnation is great value. A dedicated boxing channel that shows live fights, classic fights, documentaries and general boxing chat shows pretty much 24/7. I wish they'd hurry up with their HD version!
And if you are happy with it then l hope you enjoy more happy viewing.:D

Dash: CF noob 26-10-2013 09:27
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Even VM cant make up their minds.....:erm:

Sirius 26-10-2013 09:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dash: CF noob (Post 35637012)
Even VM cant make up their minds.....:erm:
I will let them get on with it and in the mean time enjoy another sports channel that is FREE and has lots of rugby on it. :)

Chad 26-10-2013 10:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35637013)
I will let them get on with it and in the mean time enjoy another sports channel that is FREE and has lots of rugby on it. :)
That's the best way. Got to enjoy life's little bonuses.

Bravo yet again to Virgin :clap:

denphone 26-10-2013 13:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35637013)
I will let them get on with it and in the mean time enjoy another sports channel that is FREE and has lots of rugby on it. :)
Ditto.

cityfan247 26-10-2013 15:27
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i am glad Premier Sports has been made available at last on VM.

i will enjoy the 'free' period and watch some NHL.

After that i will not be subscribing simply because at £7.99/£9.99 pm it doesnt represent good value to me. But freedom of choice and all that ;people at least have the option to subscribe or not. Will be interesting how many subscribers the channel attracts on VM in the new year.

i am a bit disappointed VM and PS (and Netflix for that matter) could not thrash out a deal to include it in a pack such as XL. Now i know non-sports fans (what is up with these people anyway ?;) ) would moan that they would be subsidising this and BT/ESPN but i refer to a previous post if VM could have got PS and Netflix in a pack such as XL they could have covered the cost with a nominal price increase in the pack. Netflix would give the non-sports fans their 'value' . For me all parties gain- Netflix and PS probably get more £ than as standalone subscriptions, VM's top tier pack represents even better value for most XL customers and probably gains more subscribers. I understand PS have wanted a deal like this before but have wanted a bigger % than VM have considered acceptable. A small price increase done in a way that many would see as good value may have been a way to satisfy all parties)

I may be wrong in that assumption and can only speak for myself but if the XL pack (or maybe a new pack called say XL+) had the current content + the new rumoured channels + PS + Netflix i would be willing to pay more ( maybe a couple of quid maybe up to a fiver) as i would regard it as good value. Perhaps we could do a poll to gauge people's opinion?

thenry 26-10-2013 15:50
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So BT put up a free pass, those who don't subscribe did tune in from what im reading so ratings have most probably shot up and with that guess what, go on guess... its not hard

Spoiler: 
nobody likes Owen and co


it is soo dire its truly unbelievable. BT wont listen though and on they go wondering why the ratings dont rise for the paid product as much as it should because the contents isnt bad. it isnt a case of getting people talking, its a case of people hating it soo much they cant be arsed, they wont pay for such crap which is a shame because as i said the contents, the offering of live events is good. bore off BT, killing live sport.

passingbat 26-10-2013 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cityfan247 (Post 35637111)
i am glad Premier Sports has been made available at last on VM.

i will enjoy the 'free' period and watch some NHL.

After that i will not be subscribing simply because at £7.99/£9.99 pm it doesnt represent good value to me. But freedom of choice and all that ;people at least have the option to subscribe or not. Will be interesting how many subscribers the channel attracts on VM in the new year.

i am a bit disappointed VM and PS (and Netflix for that matter) could not thrash out a deal to include it in a pack such as XL. Now i know non-sports fans (what is up with these people anyway ?;) ) would moan that they would be subsidising this and BT/ESPN but i refer to a previous post if VM could have got PS and Netflix in a pack such as XL they could have covered the cost with a nominal price increase in the pack. Netflix would give the non-sports fans their 'value' . For me all parties gain- Netflix and PS probably get more £ than as standalone subscriptions, VM's top tier pack represents even better value for most XL customers and probably gains more subscribers. I understand PS have wanted a deal like this before but have wanted a bigger % than VM have considered acceptable. A small price increase done in a way that many would see as good value may have been a way to satisfy all parties)

I may be wrong in that assumption and can only speak for myself but if the XL pack (or maybe a new pack called say XL+) had the current content + the new rumoured channels + PS + Netflix i would be willing to pay more ( maybe a couple of quid maybe up to a fiver) as i would regard it as good value. Perhaps we could do a poll to gauge people's opinion?
As a "non-sports fans (what is up with these people anyway?)" person, I actually had no problem adding BT sports to XL as it is a high profile channel and will help with take up of VM

But adding another Premium sports channel, full value £10p/m would have been a step too far, especially as even sports fans don't seem to rate it's content that highly.

If they were going to add another premium service, it should have been Netflix. That would be a fair balance for sports fans/non fans, and would have had the same effect as BT sports in attracting new customers to VM.

piquet41 26-10-2013 16:24
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Why has there been such a fuss with PS with regard to the RWC? Is the BBC not covering all the games?

MaverickJesus 26-10-2013 17:34
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BT Sports @ £15/pm, PS @ £8/pm and Netflix at £6/pm is £29/pm that VM would have to fork out for on premium extras only, on a package that they only sell at £37. Its not feasible for them to include PS & Netflix in XL, it was (is?) barely feasible for BT Sports to be included but they didn't really have a choice.

Don't get greedy.

andy_m 26-10-2013 21:54
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First opportunity to watch Premier tonight. Firstly, three live NHL games in a row-thank god we get an extra hour in bed! Secondly I think the picture quality is actually very decent. Thirdly, will I subscribe when the freeview is up? Well, I've a pack of beer and all night to watch sport. Without Premier I'd still have live Italian football, and a couple of reruns of German football either side of Match of the Day, and that's before I settle down for game 3 of the World Series, so I'm finding it tough to make a case for parting with up to a tenner a month for it, but I'll certainly enjoy it whilst it's here.

Sirius 27-10-2013 19:51
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What i do like about Premier Sports is that they have a working Android app to watch there channel live, Hint Hint VM

wrlfc 27-10-2013 21:16
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A big thank you to VM for getting Premier sports.
I have just watched one of the greatest games of rugby league I have seen for years, absolutely brutal at times.Also the commentary by Aussie Andrew Voss was first class,much better than them Sky muppets.
Very well done to all concerned.;)
P.S. picture quality very good as well.

johnathome 27-10-2013 21:26
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35637706)
What i do like about Premier Sports is that they have a working Android app to watch there channel live, Hint Hint VM
Do you have a link to it? I couldn't find an app.

Sirius 27-10-2013 21:51
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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35637745)
Do you have a link to it? I couldn't find an app.
You do need to have subscribed to there internet streaming service for this to work.

Login to premier sports tv player via your phone and go to the video screen and it will point you to it or look for the sol HLS player in the play store

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Originally Posted by wrlfc (Post 35637741)
A big thank you to VM for getting Premier sports.
I have just watched one of the greatest games of rugby league I have seen for years, absolutely brutal at times.Also the commentary by Aussie Andrew Voss was first class,much better than them Sky muppets.
Very well done to all concerned.;)
P.S. picture quality very good as well.
It was indeed one of those games that will be remembered for a while.

Doug P 28-10-2013 08:30
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Yes RL coverage pretty good but no way am paying eight pounds a month for the channel.

denphone 31-10-2013 19:45
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Strong performance from BT Sport means it's game on for Sky.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...cess-rival-sky

Dave42 31-10-2013 20:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35639387)
Strong performance from BT Sport means it's game on for Sky.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...cess-rival-sky
means sky will up bids when right come up again to make sure they beat bt and prices will keep going up

denphone 31-10-2013 20:05
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35639397)
means sky will up bids when right come up again to make sure they beat bt and prices will keep going up
Yes that is the likely scenario l am afraid.

Chad 31-10-2013 21:50
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Here is an interview with Gavin Patterson, Chief Executive of BT.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24754202

TonyM19 04-11-2013 17:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35637839)
Yes RL coverage pretty good but no way am paying eight pounds a month for the channel.
Seems fair enough for 5/6 games of NRL per weekend during the season + State of origin. I suppose it depends on how much you like RL

Doug P 04-11-2013 17:33
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Originally Posted by TonyM19 (Post 35640677)
Seems fair enough for 5/6 games of NRL per weekend during the season + State of origin. I suppose it depends on how much you like RL
I love RL but have Sky Sports for multi-sports including SL and the Challenge Cup is on there and the BBC. Not dissing State of Origin or NRL but is far too much per month for extra games of one sport for me.

Also the coverage of Scotland v Italy in Workington yesterday bordered on woeful imo.

TonyM19 06-11-2013 21:48
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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35640696)
I love RL but have Sky Sports for multi-sports including SL and the Challenge Cup is on there and the BBC. Not dissing State of Origin or NRL but is far too much per month for extra games of one sport for me.

Also the coverage of Scotland v Italy in Workington yesterday bordered on woeful imo.
You pays your money and takes your choice ;).

I'm just glad that I've got the option.

By the end of this world cup the channel will have shown 268 rugby league matches this season. Sky will have given us 71 and BBC 12 in comparison.

OLD BOY 07-11-2013 12:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35639397)
means sky will up bids when right come up again to make sure they beat bt and prices will keep going up
Except that Sky are not allowed to have all the games, are they? A proportion of them will always be screened by a different operator, assuming that one exists who wishes to put in a bid. At least, that's my understanding.

andy_m 07-11-2013 16:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35641735)
Except that Sky are not allowed to have all the games, are they? A proportion of them will always be screened by a different operator, assuming that one exists who wishes to put in a bid. At least, that's my understanding.
And it's correct. The issue is that BT want to out bid Sky and own a larger rights portfolio. That was the case this time and their stated aim for next time around as well. What happened this time was that BT did actually out bid Sky with a record bid. The Premier League then went back to Sky and offered them the chance to top the BT bid, which they did.

So the result of all that is that Sky ended up with what they wanted, whilst BT ended up with something akin to what ESPN had been showing for the last couple of years ie. the status quo was largely maintained, except the cost had been largely inflated. And that cost is inevitably passed on to the consumer. Sky Sports has increased, and we've yet to see the impact of Virgin's deal with BT but I'm sure they'll announce an annual price increase soon as it's almost twelve months since the last one. The cost of BT Sport as a subscription option is higher than ESPN was.

Dave42 is right in my opinion. BT clearly want to get more from the next rights auction, whilst Sky have shown no indication that they're prepared to give up their positron as top dog. So, unless in the meantime something happens which forces a shake up of the current system and introduces real competition for the benefit of the consumer, I expect another record breaking rights auction next time round followed by more price rises.

denphone 07-11-2013 16:38
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35641847)
And it's correct. The issue is that BT want to out bid Sky and own a larger rights portfolio. That was the case this time and their stated aim for next time around as well. What happened this time was that BT did actually out bid Sky with a record bid. The Premier League then went back to Sky and offered them the chance to top the BT bid, which they did.

So the result of all that is that Sky ended up with what they wanted, whilst BT ended up with something akin to what ESPN had been showing for the last couple of years ie. the status quo was largely maintained, except the cost had been largely inflated. And that cost is inevitably passed on to the consumer. Sky Sports has increased, and we've yet to see the impact of Virgin's deal with BT but I'm sure they'll announce an annual price increase soon as it's almost twelve months since the last one. The cost of BT Sport as a subscription option is higher than ESPN was.

Dave42 is right in my opinion. BT clearly want to get more from the next rights auction, whilst Sky have shown no indication that they're prepared to give up their positron as top dog. So, unless in the meantime something happens which forces a shake up of the current system and introduces real competition for the benefit of the consumer, I expect another record breaking rights auction next time round followed by more price rises.
As usual you chaps have summed up the likely future scenario perfectly.

johnathome 07-11-2013 17:22
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You wonder if the PL would have offered BT a second stab if Sky had outbid them?

The consumer has only so much spare cash Sky have to be careful they don't price them too high and people drop them.
In fact my local club has started to subscribe again after about 5 years without it, they are now paying less (500) than they were before (800), it got dropped because Sky changed the way they work retail out and wanted to put it up to £1200 a month!

Doug P 07-11-2013 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyM19 (Post 35641590)
You pays your money and takes your choice ;).

I'm just glad that I've got the option.

By the end of this world cup the channel will have shown 268 rugby league matches this season. Sky will have given us 71 and BBC 12 in comparison.
Sky and the Beeb games much higher quality both on and off the pitch imo. PS coverage now starting to grate....

andy_m 07-11-2013 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35641874)
You wonder if the PL would have offered BT a second stab if Sky had outbid them?

The consumer has only so much spare cash Sky have to be careful they don't price them too high and people drop them.
In fact my local club has started to subscribe again after about 5 years without it, they are now paying less (500) than they were before (800), it got dropped because Sky changed the way they work retail out and wanted to put it up to £1200 a month!
I suspect that they knew what they were getting with Sky and were keen to protect their brand. Next time might be different depending upon how they perceive BT's handling of the next two and a half years.

TonyM19 07-11-2013 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35641880)
Sky and the Beeb games much higher quality both on and off the pitch imo. PS coverage now starting to grate....
Again, you pays your money and takes your choice.

If I never hear Eddie & Stevo or Jonathan Davies again it will still be too soon

greeninferno 09-11-2013 00:33
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BT Sport was close to declaring victory on Friday night in its battle to add Champions League football to its growing portfolio and deal what could be a huge blow to BSkyB and ITV.
interesting news starting to filter out about a BT bid for the Champions League rights

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...from-2015.html

HDFootyMan 09-11-2013 01:13
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The Times:
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BT has landed its biggest blow yet in the battle for pay-TV and broadband customers after launching a knockout bid, thought to be worth almost £1 billion, for the rights to broadcast live mid-week Champions League games from 2015. The Times has learnt that the telecoms company has knocked out both BSkyB and ITV, the current holders of the rights, during bidding this week and has entered exclusive talks with Uefa for the rights...
:shocked:

I suspect BT may be asking for more money from VM XL customers from 2015. Nevertheless, that is a great deal for BT, truly ground-breaking. The biggest blow yet to Sky Sports Football coverage.

No doubt about it now. BT mean business, and all bets are off.

PS - Deal includes exclusive coverage for Europa League too!!

paultrademark 09-11-2013 02:41
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About time someone took Sky on but let's hope its not at a massive increase in costs to us customers.
That said, I would happily pay BT Sports a fee for their package if it included all they have so far plus CL games, as long as it was cheaper than Sky currently charge which I feel is too high.

Game changing indeed. . Wonder what Sky's response will be!

denphone 09-11-2013 05:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greeninferno (Post 35642307)
interesting news starting to filter out about a BT bid for the Champions League rights

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...from-2015.html
Very interesting indeed :shocked: but at the end of the day it will mean higher prices for many no matter who you are with as higher sports rights mean higher bills at the end of the month.:td:


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