Cable Forum - Coronavirus (OLD)

With all the recent resignations, there's bound to be at least one position in government for you to fill, Carth. ;)

If not, Dido Harding is always greatful for a bit of help on track and trace. :)

All the resignations?

I count 2 hardly significant ones so far.... :rolleyes:

You do like to "window dress" party contempt where none for the government seriously exists.

jfman

16-09-2020 20:40

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36050423)

All the resignations?

I count 2 hardly significant ones so far.... :rolleyes:

You do like to "window dress" party contempt where none for the government seriously exists.

In fairness, although I’m sure it’s not really for this thread, I’m sure Andrew is also referring to senior civil servants and department heads. While some will no doubt dismiss them as being politically biased etc. many will have careers that go back as far as Blair, if not Major, and have served under Cameron and May.

1andrew1

16-09-2020 20:50

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36050423)

All the resignations?

I count 2 hardly significant ones so far.... :rolleyes:

You do like to "window dress" party contempt where none for the government seriously exists.

A little light relief in these troubled times harms no one. ;)

The recent resigatiions that come to mind are:

Lord Keen of Elie, the Advocate General for Scotland, 16th September
Jonathan Jones, the Treasury solicitor and permanent secretary at the Government Legal Department, 8th September
Simon Clarke MP, 8th September
Rt Hon Anne-Marie Trevelyan MP 2nd September

Pierre

16-09-2020 20:54

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36050429)

A little light relief in these troubled times harms no one. ;)

That’s extra.

jfman

16-09-2020 20:55

Re: Coronavirus

PPE required these days.

Carth

16-09-2020 23:00

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36050422)

With all the recent resignations, there's bound to be at least one position in government for you to fill, Carth. ;)

If not, Dido Harding is always greatful for a bit of help on track and trace. :)

I have too much self respect to even consider a role in any Government . . :D

Maggy

17-09-2020 09:28

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54166256

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Almost two million people in north-east England are expected to face local restrictions as coronavirus cases rise.
Northumberland, Newcastle, Sunderland, North and South Tyneside, Gateshead and County Durham council areas are in discussions to get the measures.
These may include pubs closing earlier and restrictions on households mixing.

I suspect it's going to spread.

denphone

17-09-2020 09:35

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36050466)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54166256

I suspect it's going to spread.

Unsubstantianted rumours that the CMO Chris Whitty is deeply concerned and as such was advising the prime minister that a short national lockdown might be needed.

jfman

17-09-2020 09:42

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Almost inevitably. The point of an effective test, trace, isolate regime is to make data driven decisions in real time. If it’s taking days to get a test and days to get results once tested, decision making is based on out of date evidence or projections in both numbers/geography.

Asking people to self isolate while waiting for test results will have a diminishing level of compliance the longer it goes on. Unscrupulous, and low paying, employers will insist that low paid staff still attend work or go without pay, etc. Without a safety net greater numbers will take risks more often.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36050467)

Unsubstantianted rumours that the CMO Chris Whitty is deeply concerned and as such was advising the prime minister that a short national lockdown might be needed.

If so, a solid move for the inevitable public enquiry.

Carth

17-09-2020 10:00

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36050468)

Almost inevitably. The point of an effective test, trace, isolate regime is to make data driven decisions in real time. If it’s taking days to get a test and days to get results once tested, decision making is based on out of date evidence or projections in both numbers/geography.

Asking people to self isolate while waiting for test results will have a diminishing level of compliance the longer it goes on. Unscrupulous, and low paying, employers will insist that low paid staff still attend work or go without pay, etc. Without a safety net greater numbers will take risks more often.

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If so, a solid move for the inevitable public enquiry.

100% agree on the bold section, lots of places already running on the edge of 'breaking even' and can't afford another hit.

Maggy

17-09-2020 17:29

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54188766

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Almost two million people in north-east England will be banned from mixing with other households and pubs will close early as coronavirus cases rise.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock announced the temporary restrictions will be in place from midnight due to "concerning rates of infection".
The measures affect seven council areas including Newcastle, Sunderland, South Tyneside and Gateshead.

So it starts.

joglynne

17-09-2020 18:17

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36050543)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54188766

So it starts.

It started in my area a while ago Maggy. Most of Greater Manchester has had increased lockdown restrictions for some weeks. Whist the areas you link have infection rates uo to 103:10000

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He said Sunderland currently had an infection rate of 103 cases per 100,000 people. In South Tyneside and Gateshead the latest published rates were 93.4 and 83.6 respectively.

Greater Manchester has rates of up to 189:10000 with 3 of the 10 Boroughs in Gtr Manchester being higher than the rate recorded in Sunderland.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...eater-18946255

Hom3r

17-09-2020 20:18

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I have lost count walking around my supermarket where people refuse to wear a mask or wear it under the nose.

Sorry I see no valid reason for someone to be walking next me without a mask possibly spreading this disease.