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jfman 16-09-2020 10:26

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36050350)
To be fair, "opinion pieces by people who disagree" seems to be a large number of links used as 'proof' posted by many here . . . on both sides of an argument ;)

That’s very true. :)

Julian 16-09-2020 11:45

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This guy adder good idea :)

nomadking 16-09-2020 12:16

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36050347)
Opinion pieces by people who disagree does not constitute the model being inaccurate in and of itself.

Sweden did not have a formal lockdown in legislation but there were plenty of behavioural changes that would impact on the model - working from home remains the norm in Sweden, social distancing is encouraged, school years were educated from home.

Would that be a satisfactory outcome for the property developers for 40% of the UK workforce to remain working from home? I suspect not.

But the worst case scenario of the model, also assumed no behavioural changes and no smaller rule changes. Those things happened before full lockdown. It wasn't a case of lockdown being the first action of any sort to take place in the UK.

jfman 16-09-2020 12:24

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36050368)
But the worst case scenario of the model, also assumed no behavioural changes and no smaller rule changes. Those things happened before full lockdown. It wasn't a case of lockdown being the first action of any sort to take place in the UK.

I’m not really sure the point you are making. We’d lost control of the virus, exponential spread was already out there. The behavioural changes instructed by the Government started on 16 March. Boris stood there and said we needed to stop all unnecessary human contact and those who can work from home should.

Lockdown was decided upon by this point it was simply a matter of when.

Carth 16-09-2020 12:53

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36050347)
Opinion pieces by people who disagree does not constitute the model being inaccurate in and of itself.

Sweden did not have a formal lockdown in legislation but there were plenty of behavioural changes that would impact on the model - working from home remains the norm in Sweden, social distancing is encouraged, school years were educated from home.

Would that be a satisfactory outcome for the property developers for 40% of the UK workforce to remain working from home? I suspect not.

Au contraire mon ami

If working from home becomes the 'new norm' in many cases, we would see a sudden glut of unused - and unprofitable- office space.

Now look at the prices people are paying for the opportunity to have a roof over their head, and anyone with the cash/contacts/entrepreneurial background to put both of these together may well find themselves with a new and longer lasting bucket of wealth to enjoy ;)

If you can turn a few old pubs/shops/hotels into flats, an office block is childs play

Mad Max 16-09-2020 13:31

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36050363)

Very good...:D

jfman 16-09-2020 13:57

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36050372)
Au contraire mon ami

If working from home becomes the 'new norm' in many cases, we would see a sudden glut of unused - and unprofitable- office space.

Now look at the prices people are paying for the opportunity to have a roof over their head, and anyone with the cash/contacts/entrepreneurial background to put both of these together may well find themselves with a new and longer lasting bucket of wealth to enjoy ;)

If you can turn a few old pubs/shops/hotels into flats, an office block is childs play

You didn’t write the new planning laws did you? :D

Carth 16-09-2020 14:02

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36050381)
You didn’t write the new planning laws did you? :D

As is often pointed out on here, various laws and legislation can be 're-written' if financial gain is in the mix ;)

Pierre 16-09-2020 15:22

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36050372)
Au contraire mon ami

If you can turn a few old pubs/shops/hotels into flats, an office block is childs play

Already happening, and more will follow.

https://www.ocealife.com/projects/furness-house/

Hugh 16-09-2020 16:44

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36050384)
Already happening, and more will follow.

https://www.ocealife.com/projects/furness-house/

Bloody hell, they’re tiny!

1andrew1 16-09-2020 18:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36050390)
Bloody hell, they’re tiny!

They're big for SE England!

---------- Post added at 18:59 ---------- Previous post was at 17:42 ----------

Surely not? :angel:

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Boris Johnson may be stoking Brexit row to distract from coronavirus failures, EU's Barnier warns
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgdhp

Carth 16-09-2020 19:23

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Boris Johnson may be stoking Brexit row to distract from coronavirus failures, EU's Barnier warns
I can see a better headline:

EU's Barnier scraping barrel in desperation after losing out to Boris :D

jfman 16-09-2020 19:24

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Future Minister for Housing or headline writer for the Daily Telegraph. The world is your Oyster as they say, Carth. :)

Carth 16-09-2020 19:36

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36050417)
Future Minister for Housing or headline writer for the Daily Telegraph. The world is your Oyster as they say, Carth. :)

Not sure about that, one mans Oyster is another mans Barnacle ;)

1andrew1 16-09-2020 19:56

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36050417)
Future Minister for Housing or headline writer for the Daily Telegraph. The world is your Oyster as they say, Carth. :)

With all the recent resignations, there's bound to be at least one position in government for you to fill, Carth. ;)

If not, Dido Harding is always greatful for a bit of help on track and trace. :)


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