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jfman 15-09-2020 17:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36050273)
Ah, I wondered where younwere getting your information from! :D

I will rest my case.

Straw man Old Boy, either that or you are incapable of reading and appreciating context.

denphone 15-09-2020 17:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36050273)
Ah, I wondered where younwere getting your information from! :D

I will rest my case.

l wonder if you would rest your case with other media outlets out there reporting on the testing shambles?.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/126749...g-coronavirus/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...ocument-Europe

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-fiasco.html

jfman 15-09-2020 17:51

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36050275)
Hospital admissions remain very low. The virus passing through the younger generation is to be welcomed as this will not generate a lot of increased deaths. We do need to protect those who are vulnerable though.

What is worrying is the increased number of cases in care homes. We still need to step up there.

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Nice to see you almost admitting that herd immunity is the only practical way of defeating this virus apart from your 'lockdown for as long as its necessary' solution.

The easing of restrictions is having the inevitable consequence, which we are already detecting amongst young people. Where this ends, I agree, depends on the extent to which herd immunity has now been achieved.

I’ve not admitted anything of the sort. Maybe the sarcasm isn’t coming across but if it helps I can refer to “herd immunity”.

1andrew1 15-09-2020 18:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36050278)
l wonder if you would rest your case with other media outlets out there reporting on the testing shambles?.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/126749...g-coronavirus/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...ocument-Europe

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-fiasco.html

Pesky left-wing press. :D

denphone 15-09-2020 18:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36050282)
Pesky left-wing press. :D

The Times and the Telegraph two other papers from the left have been highly critical as well.;)

1andrew1 15-09-2020 18:31

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36050284)
The Times and the Telegraph two other papers from the left have been highly critical as well.;)

They can't be trusted either! :D

Mad Max 15-09-2020 18:41

Re: Coronavirus
 
We'd still be in lockdown now if the pesky left-wingers were in power...;)

denphone 15-09-2020 18:41

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36050286)
They can't be trusted either! :D

They all must have political agenda's.;)

Sephiroth 15-09-2020 18:52

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36050279)
I’ve not admitted anything of the sort. Maybe the sarcasm isn’t coming across but if it helps I can refer to “herd immunity”.

@jfman

Didn't I tell you to lay off the sarcasm?

Anyway, the testing thing is a total shambles and there is no defence that the Guvmin can validly provide.


1andrew1 15-09-2020 19:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36050292)

Anyway, the testing thing is a total shambles and there is no defence that the Guvmin can validly provide.


@Seph I'm sure someone will do their best on here - not your good self though as you're more objective.

Itshim 15-09-2020 19:16

Re: Coronavirus
 
It's the labs that have problem .just throw more money at it. If you are not a key worker stay away. Moaning does not help anyone.

1andrew1 15-09-2020 19:32

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36050297)
It's the labs that have problem .just throw more money at it. If you are not a key worker stay away. Moaning does not help anyone.

On R5 this morning, the issue seemed to be the co-ordination between the private labs and the existing NHS labs. There is no overall awareness of capacity and the two sets of labs are working independently, even if they share peaks and troughs of capacity in each group, they do not share it between NHS and non-NHS labs.

Total testing capacity is apparently fine, it just needs allocating properly between labs regardless of ownership structure. Plenty of lab capacity in Aberdeen area hence recommended to use that post code to be tested in Teddington testing station.

However, that's just a radio report. it could be far off the mark.

Pierre 15-09-2020 19:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36050288)
We'd still be in lockdown now if the pesky left-wingers were in power...;)

Big governments dream.

Hugh 15-09-2020 20:19

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36050274)
I'm not seeing any smart Alecs trying to trip them up. I'm just seeing people like Kushan trying to get one for his child so they can return to school.

The solution seems to be to put in an Aberdeen post code, but Nick Hancock says this is gaming the system. So says the person who voted to break international law last night! What parent wouldn't put in an Aberdeen post code to get a local test for their child?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54157983

They would have ‘followed the instincts of every father and every parent"

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36050292)
@jfman

Didn't I tell you to lay off the sarcasm?

Anyway, the testing thing is a total shambles and there is no defence that the Guvmin can validly provide.


Unless you are a Mod or an Admin, it is not appropriate to be giving orders to other CF'ers - kindly desist.

jfman 15-09-2020 20:23

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36050303)
Big governments dream.

I’m not sure big government has anything to do with it. I’d hardly consider the Tories “big government” fans, or Macron.

While it suits some to politicise it the simple explanation is that the public won’t stand for tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of deaths because the Government is negligent. So the government needs either a competent plan or a lockdown as an emergency brake. The latter is absolutely inevitable unless the former comes into being, fast.


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