Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

There are some people like you maybe who voted Leave on ideological terms disregarding any negative consequences, of which there were many. Maybe you are wealthy enough not to care about the impact on you personally? Maybe you did not care about the harm to the country or the effect on children & grandchildren whose birth right has been literally removed and who cannot live & work in the EU as they might had wished.

There is so much harm caused by the few to the many, not only financial but societal as well. Without Brexit, we would not have had Johnson and his right wing cult, no Patel, no Braverman, etc. So enjoy your pyrrhic victory .. for a while. As the old Leave voters die off and the younger generation replace them, return to the EU in some form is inevitable.

Pierre

23-11-2023 22:52

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36164850)

Well, I’m intelligent. I voted remain. Since then I’ve digested and assessed everything and if there was a referendum tomorrow I would vote stay out.

1andrew1

23-11-2023 23:04

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36164853)

Well, I’m intelligent. I voted remain. Since then I’ve digested and assessed everything and if there was a referendum tomorrow I would vote stay out.

There won't be another referendum for at least 10 years. By then, I'm sure you will have flipped to the option closer to Rejoin.

Dave42

23-11-2023 23:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36164834)

To take back control of our borders to reduce migration. :D
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1700761744

aye another mega big brexit lie :LOL:

Hugh	23-11-2023 23:44

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Cruella Braverman is going off on one about these figures.

If only we knew who was in charge of the Home Office when this happened…

Sephiroth

23-11-2023 23:59

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36164855)

There won't be another referendum for at least 10 years. By then, I'm sure you will have flipped to the option closer to Rejoin.

By then, the EU might have imploded.

denphone

24-11-2023 02:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36164834)

To take back control of our borders to reduce migration. :D
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1700761744

The biggest surge in immigration in British history came *after* Brexit from people outside the EU.;)

Sephiroth

24-11-2023 07:37

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But at least we are not under Brussels' control.

The immigration issue is a failure of government policy.

denphone

24-11-2023 08:23

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36164866)

But at least we are not under Brussels' control.

The immigration issue is a failure of government policy.

Indeed but so much for the government looking after their own as the only people they are looking after are their own corrupted cronies and powerful media friends.

Sephiroth

24-11-2023 09:30

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36164868)

Indeed but so much for the government looking after their own as the only people they are looking after are their own corrupted cronies and powerful media friends.

What’s that got to do with Brexit? That said, it’s easy to see why the Government is seen in the light you’ve painted. But solid evidence is another matter.

What we’re seeing here is failure of government policy. You might call, it corrupt that a cheap labour for profit mechanism (as we have seen) applies, but it is not government policy. You might think that government is corrupt because they have been lobbied for this; but there is no such evidence.

Far more likely is that the government just let it go on a mistaken premise that cheap labour in a high employment economy is good.

Had we remained in the EU, that would have been the same situation as in Eastern European workers.

denphone

24-11-2023 09:41

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36164872)

What’s that got to do with Brexit? That said, it’s easy to see why the Government is seen in the light you’ve painted. But solid evidence is another matter.

What we’re seeing here is failure of government policy. You might call, it corrupt that a cheap labour for profit mechanism (as we have seen) applies, but it is not government policy. You might think that government is corrupt because they have been lobbied for this; but there is no such evidence.

Far more likely is that the government just let it go on a mistaken premise that cheap labour in a high employment economy is good.

Had we remained in the EU, that would have been the same situation as in Eastern European workers.

It all ties in with the huge plethora of lies they told the public.

Unless you have not noticed, nothing is working anymore, public services are in deep never ending crisis, the NHS, social care and community primary services are incredibly hard to access, etc, etc, etc.

You can have your sovereignty but it does not make this a better country for the vast majority of its population.

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