Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

From a private BMA forum, I hear that there is a tax (pension?) office in NI that chases the EU to pay pensions to UK citizens. It seems to be quite aggressive "UK paid contributions" bla bla "UK citizens are entitled to their benefits"....

You do not need to have worked in the EU, just be present in the EU country... I guess it's a EU state pension. I have no more details, it's from advisors at a BMA forum

For the record, I am a Remainer.

I would have been a Remainer had the EU been the EEC as was.

Pierre

28-10-2023 16:22

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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36162916)

For the record, I am a Remainer.

That term no longer makes sense, or has meaning.

The terms should now be “Rejoiner” or the less snappy “stay out-er”

Hugh	07-11-2023 11:50

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https://news.sky.com/story/eu-equali...rkers-13002094

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EU equality laws to be reinstated to avoid 'gap in protections' for workers

Lawyers have welcomed the move to retain EU-derived protections on workers' rights - but it risks angering Tory Eurosceptics who want to see a divergence from Brussels laws.

The government has announced plans to reinstate EU equality laws before they expire at the end of the year – admitting the move is required to avoid a "clear gap in protections" for workers.

Ministers will today lay a statutory instrument intended to "enshrine" key rights and principles derived from the European Union into British law.

It follows questions over whether some employment protections related to things like equal pay and maternity leave would be scrapped from January when The Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill comes into effect.

The controversial legislation - also known as the "Brexit Freedoms Bill" - will dispense with hundreds of Brussels-derived laws still on British statue books. It will also end the supremacy of EU law over UK law, erasing previous case law principles.

Trade unions and employment lawyers had warned this would create uncertainty over key protections for British workers which derive from the EU and don't exist in British law.

The government said its update today means "that necessary protections are clearly stated in our domestic legislation".

One legal expert welcomed the announcement - but said it raised "legitimate questions" around what gains had been made from post-Brexit sovereignty if EU laws are simply going to be replicated.

OLD BOY

08-11-2023 12:55

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https://iea.org.uk/media/brexit-leav...ew-iea-report/

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The UK’s trade patterns with the EU fail to show a Brexit effect, either since the referendum or the end of the transition period.

Trade continued to grow between 2016 and the conclusion of the Brexit transition in 2020, indicating that Brexit uncertainty did not reduce UK-EU exchange.

UK goods exports rose by 13.5 per cent to EU countries and 14.3 per cent to non-EU countries between 2019 and 2022, before and after Brexit. This indicates no impact of Brexit on goods trade.

UK services exports rose by 14.8 per cent to EU countries and 22.1 per cent to non-EU countries over the same period. Varying demand levels for different products across countries, rather than any consistent Brexit impact, explains this finding.

UK trade patterns compared to other G7 countries have not changed since Brexit.

Business and Trade Secretary The Rt Hon Kemi Badenoch MP will today say “As today’s excellent IEA paper, written by the economist Catherine McBride, shows – contrary to some media reports and many pre-Brexit establishment voices, the data says Brexit has not had a major impact on UK–EU trade. UK trade with EU countries has broadly moved in line with UK trade with non-EU countries,” at the launch of International Trade Week.

Brexit has not damaged Britain’s trade with the European Union (EU), according to a new report from the free market think tank the Institute of Economic Affairs.

Pause for thought…?

Hugh	08-11-2023 13:19

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The report does not in fact show this, but the paper has disingenuously chosen to headline the non-inflation adjusted figures.

The IEA report clearly states in Table 3 that UK exports to the EU are down -7.2%, and non-EU exports are down -9.8% over the time period mentioned.

https://x.com/andrealeadsom/status/1...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1699449548

The fact the Secretary of State for Trade would use poor research from an opaquely-funded Right Wing think tank, rather than the Govt’s own independent body (Office for Budget Responsibility), tells you all you need to know…

jfman

08-11-2023 13:31

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Same mistakes as always.

Chris

20-11-2023 10:21

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Attitudes to the EU broken down by supermarket preferences, courtesy of BES Research.

Basically, if mum’s gone to Iceland, she still thinks Brexit is brilliant.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1700475661

Hugh	20-11-2023 10:48

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A large percentage of a small amount is still a small amount... ;)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ed-kingdom-uk/

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1700477398

Chris

20-11-2023 10:55

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36164570)

A large percentage of a small amount is still a small amount... ;)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ed-kingdom-uk/

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1700477398

Yes, I think it’s probably a statistical anomaly rather than anything revealing. I’ve not bothered to search for the underlying data but I bet the sample size for Iceland shoppers is too small for any conclusions to be reliable. Likewise M&S. posted for sniggers more than anything.

The steady 60-ish 40-ish split across the rest of the shoppers is most likely simply the case across the voting public as a whole.

1andrew1

20-11-2023 11:15

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36164568)

I hadn't realised Iceland still had branches. All the ones I knew have closed down.

Old Boy and Seph may feel more at home there than in their respective local branches of Asda and Waitrose. ;)

1andrew1

23-11-2023 16:15

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Clearly a load of Remainer nonsense! :D

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Brexit: Clever people 'more likely to vote Remain' in EU referendum, study shows

Being more clever has been "strongly linked" to voting to Remain in the EU in the 2016 Brexit referendum, a study has shown.

Researchers from the University of Bath looked at whether cognitive skills including memory, verbal fluency and numerical reasoning were linked to how people decided to vote. It found that only 40% of people with the lowest cognitive ability voted Remain, while 73% of those with the highest cognitive ability voted remain.

Lead study author Dr Chris Dawson said: “Depending on which side of the debate you fall, reading this may fill you with anger or joy. However, both these emotions are an error of judgement." He warned the findings are based on "average differences", adding there is a "huge amount of overlap" between the spread of Remain and Leave cognitive abilities. "Indeed, we calculated that approximately 36% of Leave voters had higher cognitive ability than the average (mean) Remain voter,” he said.

Dr Dawson, from the University of Bath’s School of Management, said the study added to existing academic evidence showing that people with low cognitive ability are "more susceptible to misinformation and disinformation". "People with lower cognitive ability and analytical thinking skills find it harder to detect and discount this type of information," he added.

The University of Bath study used a nationally representative sample of 6,366 individuals. The data came from Understanding Society, the largest longitudinal study of UK households.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cd4f0a57&ei=16

Sephiroth

23-11-2023 16:28

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36164825)

Clearly a load of Remainer nonsense! :D

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cd4f0a57&ei=16

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However, both these emotions are an error of judgement." He warned the findings are based on "average differences", adding there is a "huge amount of overlap" between the spread of Remain and Leave cognitive abilities. "Indeed, we calculated that approximately 36% of Leave voters had higher cognitive ability than the average (mean) Remain voter,” he said

That knocks the notion on the head that the majority of clever folk voted Remain.

Ms NTL

23-11-2023 16:33

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Dr Chris Dawson's paper has not been peer reviewed, has not been accepted to a scientific journal or a conference. It was simply deposited in PsyArXiv, which is just that, a depository. Anyone can deposit there.

Other than than that, it is an excellent piece of work. A very good dig to the Brexiteers :D:D:D

Pierre

23-11-2023 16:42

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36164825)

Clearly a load of Remainer nonsense! :D

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cd4f0a57&ei=16

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Being more clever

The author obviously voted Leave.