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Martyn 27-11-2005 20:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
2meg uncapped at £17.99 is too low a pricepoint, thats asking for stupid contention.I would pay £29.99 for a 200gig 20:1 2mbit connection.---------- added 25-11-2005 at 20:14 ----------The xbox service is been dropped now so it should be easier to tell when 2 ip's are live that its cloned. Maybe thats the real reason why they dropping the xbox service.
where u get that 20:1 connection?

Martyn

AbyssUnderground 27-11-2005 21:12
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What I would like is a 1Mbps down and 1Mbps up unlimited service. That way I can host my server better. 200Kbps up and 2Mbps down just doesnt cut it...

Maybe NTL can give some more options for those who want upload not the download. That would be quite interesting to see. I for one want more than 200Kbps upload.

grubbymitts 27-11-2005 21:24
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I think NTL will offer a reasonable unmetered 2mb package. I doubt it will be as high as £37.99 - that would be disastrous. People would just bugger off to AOL/Bulldog/UK Online etc.

Martyn 27-11-2005 23:36
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i would love a higher upload speed.... no services does it???....

Chrysalis 27-11-2005 23:57
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Originally Posted by Martyn
where u get that 20:1 connection?

Martyn
contention is a typo.

---------- added 28-11-2005 at 00:57 ----------

I think you will find the big isp's are becoming more arrogant, BT have recently sent out letters with bills for over £100 for traffic overages, the user's had no warning whatsoever apperently. So the question one might ask is how the likes of zen,ukonline,bulldog,nildram can allow users 300gig+ limits but BT,ntl,wannadoo,plusnet apperently will collapse if people go over 100gig or so, considering the rule of economics it is even more baffling I think the answer is excessive profits.

grubbymitts 28-11-2005 05:50
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
I think the answer is excessive profits.
That'll be it in a nutshell. Gotta get the bubbly for the shareholders!

Rone 28-11-2005 13:51
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Nildram altered their limits while i was with them, they now have a 50gig per month "fair use" policy during peak hours, as much as you like off peak.
If you go over, during peak hours you are "limited to 64Kbps transfer rate".

Also , and i quote:

"In the very unlikely event that users hit the Fair Usage allowance they have the option of purchasing additional 'Peak Time' data transfer at 99p per additional 1GB, charged in 2GB increments."

The only plus side is if you dont use your max, whatever's left is carried over till next month.

Griffin 28-11-2005 17:01
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Sky are doing something similiar to bbc, so we going to have to internet tv type services within 12 months, these are both going to have much more take up and less arguments against then things like p2p, it will be interesting how low cap isp's handle the situation.
Well said. i am already in the procees of switching to BT for the phone i will then be in a position to switch broadband if the cap stays low as i have already signed up for sky by broadband

Chrysalis 29-11-2005 01:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rone
Nildram altered their limits while i was with them, they now have a 50gig per month "fair use" policy during peak hours, as much as you like off peak.
If you go over, during peak hours you are "limited to 64Kbps transfer rate".

Also , and i quote:

"In the very unlikely event that users hit the Fair Usage allowance they have the option of purchasing additional 'Peak Time' data transfer at 99p per additional 1GB, charged in 2GB increments."

The only plus side is if you dont use your max, whatever's left is carried over till next month.
On peak I think their on peak is 8 hours out of 24 so 16 hours a day is unmetered, well over 200gig is possible. So you have possible by accident gone in favour of my argument. Of course the carrying over is also a nice bonus.

Richy99 29-11-2005 09:29
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Peak Time transfer allowance †“ this applies to data transferred between the hours of 8am and Midnight, seven days a week.
taken from nildrams fair use policy, so it is 16 hours a day is now on peak time for them

Rone 29-11-2005 10:34
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Originally Posted by Richy99
taken from nildrams fair use policy, so it is 16 hours a day is now on peak time for them

Be about 23 out of 24 in another six months. ;)

astra_lestat 29-11-2005 10:40
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Every day - 8 hours off peack + 1.6G during peack time is pretty good.
With 2M line you can download anything you want during these 8 hours. On top of that 1.6G for the rest of the day, considering that you are doing any heavy downloads duting off peack, is more than plenty for surfing the Internet, Gaming, etc.

orangebird 29-11-2005 10:52
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Originally Posted by kin242
I think that given a choice I would take any uncapped service available as long as it is above 1 Mb. Hell I might even consider the 512k service. Anything is preferable to having a cap. You constantly have to worry anout it. It's a complete pain in the ****.

It strikes me as completely ludicrous that they are providing the massive speed increases with no substantial cap increases to match. I'm sorry but 75Gb is nothing when you are on 10 Mb. I think I'd rather take 1Mb uncapped for 24.99 than 10Mb with a 75 Gb cap for the same price- just to be able to do what I want without having NTL staring over my shoulder every bloody second!

What do you need to download every month that takes up 75gig?

mcmanic 29-11-2005 12:15
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usa tv shows for one, yeah they may be illegal to some extent but who cares as they end up on Uk broadcasts later in the year anyway, it sucks we have to wait so i download these, Plus the Mrs hogs the TV and usually watches all her usual soap rubbish so i often download lots of Uk aired TV shows also, then watch them all on the PC. This alone takes up a far amount of useage, and really no different with what will be offered later anyway by most Tv companies via the internet, so if the usage allowance isn't high enough now yet people are happy with such a low limit, then there's not much hope for the future.


10meg really should be 150gigs per month for top tier.

Chrysalis 29-11-2005 13:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richy99
taken from nildrams fair use policy, so it is 16 hours a day is now on peak time for them
ahh like plusnet moving the goalposts. So on 2mbit cant quite reach 200gig now, I think more like 150gig if I calculted right.


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