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Russ 15-07-2025 14:16

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Yeah it’s called Facebook, you may have heard of it.

Pierre 15-07-2025 18:44

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199272)
Yeah it’s called Facebook, you may have heard of it.

Here’s a much better left leaning information source

https://statsforlefties.wordpress.com/

https://x.com/leftiestats?s=21

Russ 15-07-2025 18:54

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Why, are those sites denying Reform have lost 10,000?

Pierre 15-07-2025 21:12

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199289)
Why, are those sites denying Reform have lost 10,000?

You really needed a question mark after “why” for that sentence to work.

But no, it isn’t, and it’s only one site, so no need for the plural.

Russ 15-07-2025 21:22

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
You understood it though right?

For some people I recognise the need for effort.

1andrew1 15-07-2025 23:44

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Apart from spending money we don't have, what does Reform stand for? Reducing immigration? That's what they want you to think but when in power, one commentator in the Telegraph noted "Reform has proven again it is unfit to tackle our immigration crisis. Nigel Farage’s party may be a sheep in wolf’s clothing"

Why so?

This article explains why. I suspect it won't make it to GB News any time soon!

Quote:

Reform-led council calls for more social care visas

A Reform UK-led council has called on the government to reconsider its plans to end health and social care visas for overseas workers.

Kent County Council (KCC) leader Linden Kemkaran has written to Home Secretary Yvette Cooper and Minister for Care Stephen Kinnock to raise "grave concerns" about the proposals in the new Immigration Bill.

Kemkaran said the decision could "leave providers on a cliff edge".

A government spokesperson said its decision to close the route to overseas recruitment stemmed from the abuse and exploitation of workers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx201znge11o

OLD BOY 16-07-2025 00:11

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36199328)
Apart from spending money we don't have, what does Reform stand for? Reducing immigration? That's what they want you to think but when in power, one commentator in the Telegraph noted "Reform has proven again it is unfit to tackle our immigration crisis. Nigel Farage’s party may be a sheep in wolf’s clothing"

Why so?

This article explains why. I suspect it won't make it to GB News any time soon!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx201znge11o

Reform wants to prevent illegal immigration and keep legal immigration to the numbers required for our needs.

As for spending money we don’t have, clearly you are not listening. They will stop the many billions of pounds of waste to deliver their spending plans. The left do not understand this concept and nor, it seems, does the Conservative Party.

Russ 16-07-2025 08:04

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36199332)

As for spending money we don’t have, clearly you are not listening.

Have they said what they'll do about the tax-dodging millionaires and billionaires? I don't think I was listening to that part.

Pierre 16-07-2025 08:56

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I think it shows the total apathy the country has for the incumbent parties.

The fact that Reform, a party that’s been around for 5 minutes, has few MPs and has lost nearly half of the total they had, is polling the way it is.

The country has voted for less immigration for decades and they’ve been ignored time and time again.

The next election will be a single issue election.

OLD BOY 16-07-2025 09:17

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199338)
Have they said what they'll do about the tax-dodging millionaires and billionaires? I don't think I was listening to that part.

What a lot of nonsense is spoken about this! So you think it’s more important to drive out our wealth creators than have the government save the wasted money instead. You really have a strange way of trying to balance the books! Even Rachel from Accounts knows that this is not the way to go about it!

Having driven out the non-doms, you now want to go for the country’s jugular!

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36199341)
I think it shows the total apathy the country has for the incumbent parties.

The fact that Reform, a party that’s been around for 5 minutes, has few MPs and has lost nearly half of the total they had, is polling the way it is.

The country has voted for less immigration for decades and they’ve been ignored time and time again.

The next election will be a single issue election.

Agreed, and despite the fears over what it may mean, the electorate will vote Reform at the end of the day because they are the last hope for this country. The other parties simply are not in tune with what the majority are looking for. Farage expresses their exasperation, and that’s why he will win.

Russ 16-07-2025 10:25

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36199342)
So you think it’s more important to drive out our wealth creators than have the government save the wasted money instead.

No I'd rather they go after our wealth-takers.

You really have a strange way of trying to balance the books!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36199342)
The other parties simply are not in tune with what the majority are looking for.

So....why didn't the majority vote for Reform?

Sephiroth 16-07-2025 11:54

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199289)
Why, are those sites denying Reform have lost 10,000?

As of this posting time, Reform membership stands at 227766.

The rate of change of membership is a fair barometer of their relative standing with the public. When the guvmin next do something unpopular, I'd expect a surge. If it stays there, then they've gained electorally. If the guvmin comes good for the economy (unlikely imo), Reform's relative standing will fall and its membership will fall when annual expiry occurs.


OLD BOY 16-07-2025 13:21

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199348)
No I'd rather they go after our wealth-takers.

You really have a strange way of trying to balance the books!

They are the people who receive welfare payments <Removed>. You really need to realise where the wealth for this country is coming from. Over-tax them and they will disappear and we’ll all be poorer.

Edit (Chris): Refrain from insulting other members.


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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36199348)


So....why didn't the majority vote for Reform?

Now the majority can see what a Labour government stands for, they have bled out their temporary advantage. Reform U.K. will be the next government. You’ll see.

Sephiroth 16-07-2025 13:24

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199353)
As of this posting time, Reform membership stands at 227766.

The rate of change of membership is a fair barometer of their relative standing with the public. When the guvmin next do something unpopular, I'd expect a surge. If it stays there, then they've gained electorally. If the guvmin comes good for the economy (unlikely imo), Reform's relative standing will fall and its membership will fall when annual expiry occurs.


In the 2 hour 10 minutes since last posting, the Reform UK membership has risen from 227766 to 227790.

EDIT: In the 3 hours & 20 minutes, Reform's membership has risen to 228813.

So what was Russ crowing about? Note also that Labour have stopped publishing their membership count along with my party (Conservatives) who arfe too embarrassed to publicise their numbers.

Hugh 16-07-2025 16:54

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
It’ll be nice when the subscribers, sorry, members get to help decide things, rather than just Farage and a few cronies…


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