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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36185522)

'Donald Trump has strongly indicated or stated that he would not defend ‘delinquent’ Nato allies, Ukraine or Taiwan against aggression, sees international commitments mainly as a financial drain and would like to reduce America’s overseas military deployments.'

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but as a NATO member, isn't that what POTUS, i.e. America, is supposed to do? Isn't that what NATO is all about: mutual defence?

A commitment is a commitment. At least it is if you're an adult.

Is it just me, or does WWIII sound more likely now? We already have a graphic picture of just how badly the UK will be affected from Threads. Contrary to what I think Trump believes, just like that guy in By Dawn's Early Light, who was a very poor choice of President, no-one can win a nuclear war. No-one.

I agree. When Trump defunds, we may have to do the same as we may simply not have the funds.

Putin will take over Ukraine and then look for his next target. I also fear that he wants to take over more than the old USSR.

From what i've read Trumps idea to stop the war seems to be give part of Ukrainia to Russis in order for the remainder to be left alone. Even if he agrees to this, Putin will eventually want it all as well as other countries. Once he has a part of Ukrainia, places like Poland will feel and actually be threatened IMO.

If NATO then become involved we could then see an all out world war.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36185529)

Yeah like a jury NEVER it wrong do they :shocked:

I’m pretty sure you know a jury verdict absolutely stands as having established the facts beyond reasonable doubt. We (and they) have an appeals court process if anyone thinks that system has gone wrong, but in the meantime we (and they) don’t treat a jury verdict as optional or suspicious as a matter of course.

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

Harrison changed her position and so many things again and again, closely linked to slow Joe. As said 4 years ago would not vote for Biden as Harrison was a heart beat away from president. She was an accident waiting to happen. Trump is not great but he has policies that chime with the great unwashed. Our bottom line was so much better under him. Not sure how good life will be in Europe.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36185505)

Based on what evidence exactly ?

The result ?

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36185506)

Convicted of what? Nobody has ever said.
Even a show trial or kangaroo court would have the decency of telling you what you were being charged with.

Even the Jurors weren't told, and were even told they could make something up.

Well they did, he was convicted of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36185533)

The result ?

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Well they did, he was convicted of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.

I hear on the grape vine that the incomming president might pardon him

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36185535)

I hear on the grape vine that the incomming president might pardon him

You heard wrongly - he has been convicted under NY state law. The president has no power to pardon state convictions.

What’s more, his sentencing hearing in front of Judge Merchan is coming up on 26 November and a jail term is possible. Fun times ahead.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36185529)

Yeah like a jury NEVER [get] it wrong do they :shocked:

:D

An electorate certainly has! Let's hope the convicted rapist is put behind bars before he can cause any more trouble.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36185542)

:D

An electorate certainly has! Let's hope the convicted rapist is put behind bars before he can cause any more trouble.

He’s not going to do jail time.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36185483)

No - he is civilly liable for sexual assault due to the statute of limitations on criminal charges in that case. But he is a convicted felon (criminal) on 34 charges of falsifying business records arising from his failed attempt to cover up hush-money payments to a porn star. There was nothing bogus or flimsy in any of that.

Yes, that’s what all anti-Trumpists are focussing on right now in an effort to justify the call they got so badly wrong.

Biden wasn’t all sweetness and light either. Criminal charges may well be levelled at him before long as well, and by the way, have you forgotten about his unhealthy fascination with young girls - even his own daughter?

The American people voted for Trump because they preferred his policies, which they believe from experience will put money in their pockets, repatriate illegal immigrants and make America great again. That’s what they think is the priority, not all this woke nonsense. They are fed up to the back teeth with that, as are many, many Brits.

Incidentally, what did we learn from the Harris campaign? She was all teeth and cackles and wouldn’t have done anything differently from Biden.

And you are surprised by this result? I’m certainly not.

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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36185522)

Except that neither Ukraine nor Taiwan are NATO members.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36185545)

Yes, that’s what all anti-Trumpists are focussing on right now in an effort to justify the call they got so badly wrong.

Or maybe they’re (I’m) just answering a simple technical point made by another forum member who doesn’t understand which of Trump’s court dealings are civil, and which are criminal?

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36185544)

He’s not going to do jail time.

I am pleased to agree with you for a change.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36185544)

He’s not going to do jail time.

I suspect his age works in his favour here.

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36185547)

Or maybe they’re (I’m) just answering a simple technical point made by another forum member who doesn’t understand which of Trump’s court dealings are civil, and which are criminal?

You’ve missed my point. The media got this badly wrong in their enthusiasm for the Democrats, and now as a face saver and rather than concentrate on Trump’s spectacular win against the odds, they cannot resist pointing out that he is a ‘convicted felon’.

We all knew that, so why repeat it now? Biden may be joining that popular club soon as well, by the way.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36185537)

Don’t under-estimate the lengths Trump will go to in order to get out of that. He might even go so far as to grant New York independence!

Re: US Election 2024

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36185549)

I suspect his age works in his favour here.

That and it being a first offence , there would be so many appeals it would get tangled up for years and arguments that he wouldn’t be able to perform his duties as potus

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36185548)

I am pleased to agree with you for a change.

My life is now complete ;)

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

Biden isn’t going anywhere near a courtroom. For a start he’d be ruled unfit to stand trial.