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1andrew1 24-06-2022 16:55

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36126011)
They do, but it doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t listen to them.

But given their likely agenda, we should listen to them with a critical ear and judge for ourselves whether the other evidence we can see bears out their testimony.

Maggy 25-06-2022 09:48

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I'm just sick of TV advertising whether I have or have not paid to watch it.I'm sick of all those 10-20 minutes of my life taken up with adverts.It's mounting up and and at nearly 70 I've not got the time to waste watching the tripe in the ads.

Jaymoss 25-06-2022 10:06

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36126243)
I'm just sick of TV advertising whether I have or have not paid to watch it.I'm sick of all those 10-20 minutes of my life taken up with adverts.It's mounting up and and at nearly 70 I've not got the time to waste watching the tripe in the ads.

ITV and Channel4 I watch on demand using Brave browser and adguard and get no adverts.

Paul 26-06-2022 00:15

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I havent seen an advert for years ;)

Hugh 26-06-2022 09:41

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https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/ofcom-want...ew-frequencies

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Ofcom wants to save Freeview frequencies

Broadcast regulator Ofcom has outlined its preliminary view over what should happen to the frequencies currently used to broadcast Freeview after 2030.

Next year, delegates at the World Radiocommunication Conference (WRC 2023) will make binding decisions. This will affect countries throughout Europe, Africa and the Middle East. Frequencies currently ringfenced for terrestrial TV services like Freeview, as well as programme making, e.g. wireless microphones, could be opened up for other uses.

But further limits to the number of frequencies available to Freeview could undermine the platform’s viability.…

… Ofcom has published its preliminary view: it is for ‘no change’ for the Freeview frequencies. This would keep the status quo. But it will be a hard sell. Ofcom admits several countries are pushing for a co-allocation. That would allow the remaining frequencies to be used for either terrestrial or mobile broadband services.

What Ofcom has said:

“Our priority will be to ensure that, following the outcome of WRC-23, DTT services can continue to operate in the 470-694 MHz. Any decision on the future use of this band in the UK rests with the UK authorities.
We also note that, recognising the types of technologies currently used in domestic television and mobile broadband wireless services, sharing of the band between these services is not feasible in the same frequencies in the same geographical area. (i.e., both the 700 MHz and 800 MHz bands were cleared of broadcasting to make the widest and most rapid possible deployment of mobile broadband services.)

Nor do we feel that a reequipping of domestic TV to facilitate sharing between broadcast and mobile services is either feasible or practical at this stage.”

jfman 26-06-2022 10:17

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Oh dear.

pip08456 26-06-2022 11:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36126274)

Three important words there. "At this stage", which means they are not ruling it out altogether.

Chris 26-06-2022 11:41

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Given that our broadcast region includes African nations that are nowhere near as far down the road of high speed mobile comms and on demand TV as many European ones, I’d say that Ofcom won’t be the only regulator pressing for little or no change.

jfman 26-06-2022 12:24

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36126278)
Three important words there. "At this stage", which means they are not ruling it out altogether.

I don’t think anyone views mixed mode use of the spectrum as something that won’t happen at some point, just most of us aren’t pushing an arbitrary deadline plucked from thin air.

pip08456 26-06-2022 13:31

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36126280)
I don’t think anyone views mixed mode use of the spectrum as something that won’t happen at some point, just most of us aren’t pushing an arbitrary deadline plucked from thin air.

We'll find out next year after the WRC.

OLD BOY 26-06-2022 18:54

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36126280)
I don’t think anyone views mixed mode use of the spectrum as something that won’t happen at some point, just most of us aren’t pushing an arbitrary deadline plucked from thin air.

2035 was not plucked from thin air, jfman.

For example -

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...casting-sector

[EXTRACT]

’Make changes to the local TV licensing regime to enable the extension of the local TV multiplex licence until 2034…’

Hugh 26-06-2022 19:08

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36126296)
2035 was not plucked from thin air, jfman.

For example -

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...casting-sector

[EXTRACT]

’Make changes to the local TV licensing regime to enable the extension of the local TV multiplex licence until 2034…’

Impressive - you are using a Government paper published in April 2022 to support a proposition you made in 2015…

GrimUpNorth 26-06-2022 19:24

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36126299)
Impressive - you are using a Government paper published in April 2022 to support a proposition you made in 2015…

Maybe Old Boy saw a draft, but the final version suffered from a bit of buffering on its way to the printers?

OLD BOY 26-06-2022 19:31

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36126299)
Impressive - you are using a Government paper published in April 2022 to support a proposition you made in 2015…

There have been a number of reasons why I picked 2035, Hugh. This is just further confirmation that this could turn out to be a significant year which sees the end of broadcast TV.

Hugh 26-06-2022 20:36

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36126305)
There have been a number of reasons why I picked 2035, Hugh. This is just further confirmation that this could turn out to be a significant year which sees the end of broadcast TV.

Sounds a bit like post hoc justification...

"See! Seven years after I said something, someone else said something similar - that proves I didn't pluck that date out of thin air..."


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