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Sephiroth

29-10-2020 17:07

Re: Coronavirus

Can those of you with some knowledge about viruses fill in some gaps on stuff we're not told?

1/
We are told that younger people retain CV antibodies for longer than older people. The deduction made from what we're told is that older people remain susceptible to serious consequences of a second infection.

2/
Let us say that an older person in their mid 70s can shake a cold off in a couple of days. Are they likely to be typical of that age group or luckier?

3/
By corollary, is an older person who is able to shake off a cold in two days in a better position to generate CV antibodies than less cold-shake-off-able people?

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

GrimUpNorth

29-10-2020 19:50

Re: Coronavirus

Party weekend in West Yorkshire. Why not just say Tier 3 from now?

Chris

29-10-2020 20:21

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36055479)

Party weekend in West Yorkshire. Why not just say Tier 3 from now?

Because the changes carry legal implications. They have to give fair notice.

jfman

29-10-2020 20:26

Re: Coronavirus

When Boris closed the pubs did that not apply from 2 hours after he said it?

Pierre

29-10-2020 20:29

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36055479)

Party weekend in West Yorkshire. Why not just say Tier 3 from now?

Nothing will change.

However, I can totally see why they are doing it when a very worryingly number of 8 people are in ICU with COVID in Huddersfield and Halifax hospitals.

8

papa smurf

29-10-2020 20:40

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36055485)

Nothing will change.

However, I can totally see why they are doing it when a very worryingly number of 8 people are in ICU with COVID in Huddersfield and Halifax hospitals.

8

8 people, the NHS must be near to collapse.

Pierre

29-10-2020 20:58

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36055486)

8 people, the NHS must be near to collapse.

Indeed.

Just to back up my post

https://www.cht.nhs.uk/home/news/?tx...98788ef2ba2345

204 deaths, since the pandemic began!!!!!! Shut it down.

https://youtu.be/2RtDdctNOv0

nomadking

29-10-2020 21:09

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36055486)

8 people, the NHS must be near to collapse.

Bradford Royal Infirmary

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We have 130 in-patients acutely ill with Covid-19, overtaking our peak at Easter. Fifty patients were admitted in the space of 48 hours. The pressures of finding beds and staff are huge. Over 200 staff are off sick and the school half term has compounded the situation as our clinicians take much-needed breaks or just child-mind at home.

...
Our starting point is a nearly full hospital anyway so we've increased the number of wards we have open for Covid patients. One of the things I've noticed this time is there are fewer patients needing to go on to a ventilator in intensive care. So there are globally now more patients than we had in hospital at the peak of the first wave but most are out on the wards on oxygen or CPAP (non-invasive ventilation with oxygen).

GrimUpNorth

29-10-2020 22:21

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36055488)

Indeed.

Just to back up my post

https://www.cht.nhs.uk/home/news/?tx...98788ef2ba2345

204 deaths, since the pandemic began!!!!!! Shut it down.

https://youtu.be/2RtDdctNOv0

I'm sure the other 95 inpatients with COVID are just there keeping the beds warm and using up NHS resources unnecessarily so they can save on their gas and electricity bills at home.

daveeb

29-10-2020 22:30

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36055490)

I'm sure the other 95 inpatients with COVID are just there keeping the beds warm and using up NHS resources unnecessarily so they can save on their gas and electricity bills at home.

Indeed.

Leeds general Infirmary has more covid patients in beds now than at the height of the first wave.

GrimUpNorth

29-10-2020 22:37

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36055491)

Indeed.

Leeds general Infirmary has more covid patients in beds now than at the height of the first wave.

148 in Pinderfields, at the height of the first wave was 170 but Wakefield are a week or so behind Leeds.

Sephiroth

30-10-2020 00:20

Re: Coronavirus

Thing to note now is that we are seeing D+14 and that the results of the tiering should trickle through from now on.

papa smurf

30-10-2020 07:40

Re: Coronavirus

Interesting piece in the sun by Dr jon dobinson.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/130601...-act-humanely/

nomadking

30-10-2020 08:00

Re: Coronavirus

So finally it emerges that all this talk of, "we should be following Germany's example" is and was a load of nonsense.

jfman

30-10-2020 08:18

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36055506)

So finally it emerges that all this talk of, "we should be following Germany's example" is and was a load of nonsense.

In what sense? Less cases, less deaths, greater population?

We’ve had areas under lockdown restrictions for months now. They’re being proactive and, all going well, such measures will be taken at an appropriate time. On the other hand we continue to ignore scientific advice.

If, or more likely when, Germany ease restrictions we will likely be in the mire for a further period of time due to not taking quick and decisive action.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36055505)

Interesting piece in the sun by Dr jon dobinson.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/130601...-act-humanely/

Only interesting in the sense the British press usually enjoy stoking fear.

Struggling to reconcile points 2 and 4

“Second, all lives should be of equal importance and everyone should have a right to hospital treatment. “

“And in the case of Covid you are typically talking about lives which have already been long. “

So not equal then?

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