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denphone 04-10-2017 14:21

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35918960)
that will have repercussions people aren't cattle to be butchered for parts

Its nothing like that papa so you can get that out of your imaginary mind.:)

Osem 04-10-2017 14:31

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35918948)
May has announced organ donation will now be opt-out rather than opt-in and a energy price cap.

Organ donation ought to have been opt out anyway IMHO, so many organs going to waste. I'm sure next of kin will still be able to 'object' however.

denphone 04-10-2017 14:41

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35918962)
Organ donation ought to have been opt out anyway IMHO, so many organs going to waste. I'm sure next of kin will still be able to 'object' however.

The Spanish seem to have a organ donation system that works pretty well.

Mr K 04-10-2017 15:16

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41493370

Well Theresa's big speech went well then (apart from losing her voice, being handed a P45 and the scenery falling down behind her....)

About time on organ donation, if it ever happens. She just need to hire some doctors , nurses and hospitals to do the surgery. She has a tendency of announcing things she can't or doesn't deliver (e.g. the energy price cap again...) Suspect she won't be around for long and all this will soon be forgotten.

daveeb 04-10-2017 15:27

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35918963)
The Spanish seem to have a organ donation system that works pretty well.

It's the Tapas system :D

Not sure why any potential adult donor would object unless on religious grounds or just ill informed . You're dead yet could still help someone who isn't.
The hospital isn't going to treat you any less well when you're ill just to get their hands on your organs.

TheDaddy 04-10-2017 15:39

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35918948)
May has announced organ donation will now be opt-out rather than opt-in and a energy price cap.

So not donation any more then

papa smurf 04-10-2017 15:45

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35918968)
So not donation any more then

no we are switching to grave robbing

TheDaddy 04-10-2017 16:04

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35918969)
no we are switching to grave robbing

No need to be melodramatic, harvesting is a better term imo

Ignitionnet 04-10-2017 16:08

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
I'm sure it'll be made clear where the opt-out option is for those that don't want to donate their organs when they've no further use for them.

Mr K 04-10-2017 16:12

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35918973)
I'm sure it'll be made clear where the opt-out option is for those that don't want to donate their organs when they've no further use for them.

Hopefully those that opt out will be low priority if they need an organ.

denphone 04-10-2017 16:17

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35918973)
I'm sure it'll be made clear where the opt-out option is for those that don't want to donate their organs when they've no further use for them.

Having known several nurses that deal with this everything will be explained to the deceased persons relatives in a very tactful and considered way and then it is up to the relatives of the deceased to decide their course of action.

papa smurf 04-10-2017 16:32

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35918975)
Hopefully those that opt out will be low priority if they need an organ.

lets hope so if Dewhurst are running the NHS

Damien 04-10-2017 16:36

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Do you need your organs when you're dead? Seems rather wasteful when others do need them.

papa smurf 04-10-2017 16:45

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35918982)
Do you need your organs when you're dead? Seems rather wasteful when others do need them.

that depends on your religious leanings ,my objection is taking without consent just reduces us to meat i don't believe the dead should be used this way unless they have given consent while alive . Assuming consent is wrong in my opinion having to opt out doesn't work for me , when you open someones wallet and find a donor card that means they made a special effort to donate .

dilli-theclaw 04-10-2017 17:00

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Being selfish I just wonder if my transplant will be any quicker.


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