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Not being the most intelligent forum member l can still work this one out as the pot calling the kettle black and yes l think he has conveniently forgotton about things and thats coming from someone who has a political allegiance to his party.

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Billy Bragg's weighed in, he's never one to keep quiet about the press.

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:rofl:

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You know, that's fantastic. I just love that pot kettle etc ;) (right click, saves as)

I was discussing this with the mrs over dinner and it came back to what i said earlier in this thread.

WHY are MP's getting involved in the questioning?

IF it is deemed to be criminal, leave it to the Police. That is what they are good at, all the politicians will do is spiiiiiiiiiiiiin.

Right, where did I leave my flame suit?

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Murdochs Snr and Jnr have now declined to attend and as they are not British citizens, they cannot be compelled to appear. It seems that Brooks's days may be numbered.


"Yes Rebekah dear, we're right behind you." :D

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Because the police have done a GREAT job investigating this to begin with. All of this could have came to light YEARS ago, instead they did a rush job to just deal with the Royal hackings, and forgot about everything else despite having a ton of evidence that they'd targeted 4000 others!

Half the problem's that the police were accepting money from NI for information (within the law mind according to Ms Brooks, quite how you legally pay a police officer for information I don't know). They'll surely do a stellar job investigating those claims I'm sure, it's not like the met doesn't have a fabulous reputation for investigating their own.

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It seems to be spreading?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14132168

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Its seems that News Corp has had its tentacles everywhere and has also corrupted many politicians.journalists, police. officials and criminals in the process and now its seems that people are getting the courage to stand up to the nefarious Murdoch and his company.

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Sure.

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/pl...ntgomerie.html

Ignoring his rhetoric the charts are from the Ofcom investigation, so let's break up what is by far the largest source of news in the UK, given that single providers are pretty dangerous.

Newspapers in print format are on their last legs, online news is taking over and guess who has by a mile the largest share of that market, yep the BBC, followed by The Daily Fail, then The Guardian.

Plurality is a total straw man argument when it doesn't apply to the BBC also.

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Because it makes them look 'tough' to the electorate.

It's actually none of their business, and the vote they are having on the takeover of BSkyB is again none of their business and a publicity stunt - on our wallet.

I can think of a few choice words to describe this opportunistic bunch of bumholes, I'll content myself with wishing that they would deal with genuine issues rather than having a competition of who can wring their hands the most.

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Parliament is hardly in a more unbiased position given both the PM and leader of the opposition were partying with Murdoch just a few weeks ago.

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Yep they were more worried about News International dishing whatever dirt it had on them than exposing this.

We're all getting a little insight into the dirty little machinations between politicians and media. :)

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Not really, he's just having the spotlight shined on him and his lot as their dodgy behaviour is out in the open somewhat. It pretty much goes without saying, although given the amount of gloating going on perhaps it does need saying, that this total lack of morality in pursuit of a story is far from exclusive to News International, and no doubt other media groups are soiling themselves wondering when the spotlight will shine on them and their own dirty dealings.

I personally would love to see them pack it in in the UK and in the process dish all the dirt they have on our politicians and other media sources. That would be entertainment :D

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The BBC is in a unique position. It has a historical presence in the UK, would be almost impossible for it to be created today, and unlike News International it doesn't editorialise or 'campaign' via it's news presence. As such they react to the news agenda more than they set it.

Also to be honest the BBC has proved far more willing to report on it's own misdeeds and scandals than News International has.

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I don't see the relevance of the BBC's history. I entirely disagree about the claims that the BBC don't editorialise or campaign. They have their own agenda and pursue it accordingly. The demographics of the staff within the BBC are quite abnormal within the UK, they have a far higher proportion of Guardianistas and Europhiles and their news output corresponds with this, they aren't robots who leave their own personal bias at home.

The stories they don't see fit to cover on TV speak volumes, as do the parts of stories they do and don't cover.

One really easy case that comes to mind - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-international

I'm at a loss as to the relevance of that to plurality within the news.

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Most definitely and although the BBC has its faults it is still a cherished organisation to a lot of the public.

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The BBC's history is relevant because I am pointing out that it would be far more difficult to break it up than it would be to prevent to obtaining such dominance in the first place. There is a legacy and a public affection that makes the BBC different to a standard commercial provider. So using a public service broadcaster as a reference point to a commercial provider is rather pointless IMO.

The BBC isn't perfect but they do not intentionally set out to promote an agenda. They often do reports into their reporting and have found, as you mention, that there sometimes is a bias because of the staff that is typically employed by the BBC. Although it should be remembered that most this complaints are generated from their standard, non-news, programming which is quite often left wing.

The BBC also has a charter which is intent on preventing bias which was pointed out in the Ofcom report which also noted it not present in a commercial provider as a News International which also has a history of intervention on the part of it's owner. Which is important because...

One of the largest issues within plurality of news is if the agenda can be set by it's owner. Murdoch being able to set an agenda across all platforms including Sky, News International's Papers is not a welcoming thought.

Not sure where the BBC Staff are 'Guardianistas' comes from either.