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Horsegirlbusmad 12-12-2017 15:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Are any of the following channels coming to virgin media soon?

Disney channel HD
Disney junior HD
Disney junior +1
Disney Xd HD
Nick Jr HD
Nick Jr +1
Pop max
Pop max+1
Tiny pop + 1
E! HD
E!+1
History Hd
AMC
Amc Hd
Horse and country
Free sports
Sony movies +1
True movies + 1
C.I. Hd
C.I. + 1
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic + 1
Sky Atlantic Hd
Sky one + 1
Pick + 1
5Spike + 1
MTV classic
Comedy central extra + 1

OLD BOY 12-12-2017 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horsegirlbusmad (Post 35928511)
Are any of the following channels coming to virgin media soon?

Disney channel HD
Disney junior HD
Disney junior +1
Disney Xd HD
Nick Jr HD
Nick Jr +1
Pop max
Pop max+1
Tiny pop + 1
E! HD
E!+1
History Hd
AMC
Amc Hd
Horse and country
Free sports
Sony movies +1
True movies + 1
C.I. Hd
C.I. + 1
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic + 1
Sky Atlantic Hd
Sky one + 1
Pick + 1
5Spike + 1
MTV classic
Comedy central extra + 1

Nope.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...-new.html#more

theone2k10 12-12-2017 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horsegirlbusmad (Post 35928511)
Are any of the following channels coming to virgin media soon?

Disney channel HD - yes but no timescale
Disney junior HD - yes as above
Disney junior +1 - unknown
Disney Xd HD - yes as disney
Nick Jr HD - no
Nick Jr +1 - no
Pop max - no but it's on freeview surprise surprise
Pop max+1 - no
Tiny pop + 1 - no
E! HD - unknown
E!+1 - unknown
History Hd - was supposed to this year so unknown
AMC - no chance in hell after vms behaviour to bt
Amc Hd - as above
Horse and country - why would you want this?
Free sports - yes talks ongoing
Sony movies +1 - no idea
True movies + 1 - no idea
C.I. Hd - nope
C.I. + 1 - nope
Sky Atlantic - no chance in hell
Sky Atlantic + 1 - as above
Sky Atlantic Hd - as above
Sky one + 1- this channel may not be around much longer anyway
Pick + 1 - nope
5Spike + 1 - nope
MTV classic - nope
Comedy central extra + 1 - nope

Disney channel HD - yes but no timescale
Disney junior HD - yes as above
Disney junior +1 - unknown
Disney Xd HD - yes as disney
Nick Jr HD - no
Nick Jr +1 - no
Pop max - no but it's on freeview surprise surprise
Pop max+1 - no
Tiny pop + 1 - no
E! HD - unknown
E!+1 - unknown
History Hd - was supposed to this year so unknown
AMC - no chance in hell after vms behaviour to bt
Amc Hd - as above
Horse and country - why would you want this?
Free sports - yes talks ongoing
Sony movies +1 - no idea
True movies + 1 - no idea
C.I. Hd - nope
C.I. + 1 - nope
Sky Atlantic - no chance in hell
Sky Atlantic + 1 - as above
Sky Atlantic Hd - as above
Sky one + 1- this channel may not be around much longer anyway
Pick + 1 - nope
5Spike + 1 - nope
MTV classic - nope
Comedy central extra + 1 - nope

OLD BOY 12-12-2017 16:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928516)
Disney channel HD - yes but no timescale
Disney junior HD - yes as above
Disney junior +1 - unknown
Disney Xd HD - yes as disney
Nick Jr HD - no
Nick Jr +1 - no
Pop max - no but it's on freeview surprise surprise
Pop max+1 - no
Tiny pop + 1 - no
E! HD - unknown
E!+1 - unknown
History Hd - was supposed to this year so unknown
AMC - no chance in hell after vms behaviour to bt
Amc Hd - as above
Horse and country - why would you want this?
Free sports - yes talks ongoing
Sony movies +1 - no idea
True movies + 1 - no idea
C.I. Hd - nope
C.I. + 1 - nope
Sky Atlantic - no chance in hell
Sky Atlantic + 1 - as above
Sky Atlantic Hd - as above
Sky one + 1- this channel may not be around much longer anyway
Pick + 1 - nope
5Spike + 1 - nope
MTV classic - nope
Comedy central extra + 1 - nope

Some sprinkles of optimism in there, theone, but I think (maybe with the possible exception of Freesports) any developments are a way off yet, if they ever materialise.

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Channel 5 launching 5PRIME channel.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...prime-channel/
http://www.a516digital.com/2017/12/m...o-rebrand.html

denphone 12-12-2017 16:37

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Nice to see that Linear is alive and well despite the protestations of some...;)

SonicMaster 12-12-2017 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928516)
Disney channel HD - yes but no timescale
Disney junior HD - yes as above
Disney junior +1 - unknown
Disney Xd HD - yes as disney
Nick Jr HD - no
Nick Jr +1 - no
Pop max - no but it's on freeview surprise surprise
Pop max+1 - no
Tiny pop + 1 - no
E! HD - unknown
E!+1 - unknown
History Hd - was supposed to this year so unknown
AMC - no chance in hell after vms behaviour to bt
Amc Hd - as above
Horse and country - why would you want this?
Free sports - yes talks ongoing
Sony movies +1 - no idea
True movies + 1 - no idea
C.I. Hd - nope
C.I. + 1 - nope
Sky Atlantic - no chance in hell
Sky Atlantic + 1 - as above
Sky Atlantic Hd - as above
Sky one + 1- this channel may not be around much longer anyway
Pick + 1 - nope
5Spike + 1 - nope
MTV classic - nope
Comedy central extra + 1 - nope

FreeSports is a must.

HISTORY HD, Crime+Investigation HD, E! HD and MTV Classic should all be the priority after that as they are on BT as well as Sky.

OLD BOY 12-12-2017 16:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928520)
Nice to see that Linear is alive and well despite the protestations of some...;)

We're still in the five year 'heyday period', Den! You're getting ahead of yourself!

Whoops, there goes ITV Encore....!

denphone 12-12-2017 17:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928529)
We're still in the five year 'heyday period', Den! You're getting ahead of yourself!


Add quite a few more years as l can see this holiday period becoming very much more prolonged OB.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928529)
We're still in the five year 'heyday period', Den! You're getting ahead of yourself!

Whoops, there goes ITV Encore....!

Blame that on their flawed strategy of thinking its exclusivity could rival Sky Atlantic whilst not appearing on all platforms as that was a failed non starter from the start.

OLD BOY 12-12-2017 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928532)
Add quite a few more years as l can see this holiday period becoming very much more prolonged OB.

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Blame that on their flawed strategy of thinking its exclusivity could rival Sky Atlantic whilst not appearing on all platforms as that was a failed non starter from the start.

ITV Encore was meant to be exclusive only for an initial period of broadcasting under the deal with Sky.

denphone 12-12-2017 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928535)
ITV Encore was meant to be exclusive only for an initial period of broadcasting under the deal with Sky.

A flawed decision if ever saw one.

theone2k10 12-12-2017 17:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928532)
Add quite a few more years as l can see this holiday period becoming very much more prolonged OB.

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Blame that on their flawed strategy of thinking its exclusivity could rival Sky Atlantic whilst not appearing on all platforms as that was a failed non starter from the start.

AMC will go the same way one feels.

denphone 12-12-2017 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928547)
AMC will go the same way one feels.

Most definitely unless they subsidise it.

vincerooney 12-12-2017 18:15

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Very few people will choose a tv provider purely for one channel. Which makes me laugh BT think AMC will get people based on that. Also makes me laugh sky think having Atlantic will get people to sky alone

People choose their provider best on

Price
Deals
Familiarity

Instead all BT and sky are doing are robbing themselves of advertisement money but they’re in far too deep now they probably feel they’d appear weak accepting the figure from VM they’ve probably rejected 8 billion times

If you want game of thrones that badly there are so many other ways to get it.... silly sky !

telegramsam 12-12-2017 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35928558)
Very few people will choose a tv provider purely for one channel. Which makes me laugh BT think AMC will get people based on that. Also makes me laugh sky think having Atlantic will get people to sky alone

People choose their provider best on

Price
Deals
Familiarity

Instead all BT and sky are doing are robbing themselves of advertisement money but they’re in far too deep now they probably feel they’d appear weak accepting the figure from VM they’ve probably rejected 8 billion times

If you want game of thrones that badly there are so many other ways to get it.... silly sky !

Well said sir!

theone2k10 12-12-2017 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35928558)
Very few people will choose a tv provider purely for one channel. Which makes me laugh BT think AMC will get people based on that. Also makes me laugh sky think having Atlantic will get people to sky alone

People choose their provider best on

Price
Deals
Familiarity

Instead all BT and sky are doing are robbing themselves of advertisement money but they’re in far too deep now they probably feel they’d appear weak accepting the figure from VM they’ve probably rejected 8 billion times

If you want game of thrones that badly there are so many other ways to get it.... silly sky !

At what cost though?

jj20x 12-12-2017 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928506)
There's still an EPG entry for the now closed Playboy on channel 979. I don't subscribe so can't access it, perhaps "Playboy" is a closedown slate that's on there??

There were changes at the end of November that should have dealt with that. Basically all that happened was that the substitute channel off-air slate, normally shown when a channel is off-air, was activate 24/7.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928517)

Channel 5 rebrand that channel almost as much as Sky rebrands the Sky Cinema channels. :rolleyes:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928529)
Whoops, there goes ITV Encore....!

That's a really bad example. The purpose of ITV Encore was to attempt to create a new market for ITV drama and a new source of income. The experiment failed but it was flawed from the start. ITV have now moved on to an area where they already know a market exists. They have sold HD linear content at a premium for years, now they are trying to repeat this success with ITV Hub+.

muppetman11 12-12-2017 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35928373)
Sky sources has given us an new DNP order until Tuesday.

We know what is set to happen but we have been ban from reveal it.

I'm taking it you mean package changes
https://www.uswitch.com/broadband/ne...s_tv_packages/

Dave42 12-12-2017 21:12

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hopefully new year will be better for VM very quiet year this year

Aguero9320 12-12-2017 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928498)
We have had information that Disney are looking to launch a VR and UHD service next year, right now we're taking it with a pinch of salt.
No platform was mentioned so it may be on all or may be part of Disneys own service, when i find out more i'll let you guys know.

Yeah. As a result, Disney are pulling all their content from Netflix in order to launch the service. May be a relaunch of Disney Life.

theone2k10 12-12-2017 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35928579)
Yeah. As a result, Disney are pulling all their content from Netflix in order to launch the service. May be a relaunch of Disney Life.

Could be yes.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35928577)
hopefully new year will be better for VM very quiet year this year

But still no Sky Atlantic :p:

RichardCoulter 12-12-2017 22:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horsegirlbusmad (Post 35928511)
Are any of the following channels coming to virgin media soon?

Disney channel HD
Disney junior HD
Disney junior +1
Disney Xd HD
Nick Jr HD
Nick Jr +1
Pop max
Pop max+1
Tiny pop + 1
E! HD
E!+1
History Hd
AMC
Amc Hd
Horse and country
Free sports
Sony movies +1
True movies + 1
C.I. Hd
C.I. + 1
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic + 1
Sky Atlantic Hd
Sky one + 1
Pick + 1
5Spike + 1
MTV classic
Comedy central extra + 1

Apparently, Horse & Country have been looking into Freeview carriage. If they're looking into increasing their reach, let's hope that they consider VM too.

They were on Freesat, but couldn't make it pay, but, whilst Freeview costs a lot more, there is potential to pick up far more viewers.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928569)
There were changes at the end of November that should have dealt with that. Basically all that happened was that the substitute channel off-air slate, normally shown when a channel is off-air, was activate 24/7.

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Channel 5 rebrand that channel almost as much as Sky rebrands the Sky Cinema channels. :rolleyes:

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That's a really bad example. The purpose of ITV Encore was to attempt to create a new market for ITV drama and a new source of income. The experiment failed but it was flawed from the start. ITV have now moved on to an area where they already know a market exists. They have sold HD linear content at a premium for years, now they are trying to repeat this success with ITV Hub+.

I always thought that it was a daft idea to rename 5+24 the same as their VOD service.

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LFC currently being broadcast free on VM.

jj20x 12-12-2017 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928584)
LFC currently being broadcast free on VM.

The pack override flag was added somewhere around 4th / 5th December.

RichardCoulter 12-12-2017 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928591)
The pack override flag was added somewhere around 4th / 5th December.

Thanks, only just noticed that it was available for free.

Re: My post about Horse & Country, this shows that Freeview is by far the most watched platform in the UK.

http://www.barb.co.uk/tv-landscape-r...m-interactive/

Cable, YouView, TalkTalk etc really are the poor relations!

nodrogd 12-12-2017 23:04

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Horse & Country has never been on Freesat, though a predecessor was. A licence has been issued for american owned Ride TV, so perhaps there is a joint venture with H & C in the offing

Mad Max 12-12-2017 23:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928591)
The pack override flag was added somewhere around 4th / 5th December.


Any chance of that in non tech speak please? :erm:

Dave42 12-12-2017 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928581)
Could be yes.

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But still no Sky Atlantic :p:

you know that will never ever happen :p:

RichardCoulter 13-12-2017 00:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35928593)
Horse & Country has never been on Freesat, though a predecessor was. A licence has been issued for american owned Ride TV, so perhaps there is a joint venture with H & C in the offing

Yes, maybe that's what it is. I remember someone posting about Ride TV.

Just asked the person who gave me this info and he said that from what he remembers (it was years ago) a channel called Rural TV was on Freesat and got into financial difficulties.

In the end they teamed up with Horse & Country and put some of their programmes onto their Sky channel, in return Rural TV put some blocks of Horse & Country programming onto the Rural TV Freesat channel.

Does this tally with what you remember?

I can think of worse channels to put onto VM and I think that they show reruns of Black Beauty :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928591)
The pack override flag was added somewhere around 4th / 5th December.

If VM mirror Sky, this will end on 14/12/17.

jj20x 13-12-2017 00:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35928594)
Any chance of that in non tech speak please? :erm:

A flag was added to the EPG area of the Service Description Table to over-ride the pack codes. Normally, Liverpool FC TV is a premium channel, only available to customers who subscribe to that channel. There are pack codes in place to limit the channel to those subscribers. The over-ride flag makes the channel available to all VM TV customers.

Believe it or not, what I said originally was a simplification. The flags and codes can't just be read, they are extracted from binary data.

Chad 13-12-2017 08:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928576)
I'm taking it you mean package changes
https://www.uswitch.com/broadband/ne...s_tv_packages/

I was reading more about the new packages on Sky's website. Those who are used to getting retention deals are in for a shock. The FAQ section suggests existing discounts on TV packages, outwith deals for Sky Sports and Sky Movies, will not be carried forward when you get moved over to the same equivalent package in 2018. They days of 50% off and 75% off retention deals appear to be over.

If that's the case my package, once I've tinkered a little, will cost me £10.00 more. Not the end of the world. It's not worth me cancelling. They have played a shrewd game. My wife and I have our mobiles with Sky. Calls and text are "free" as long as you are a TV subscriber. Cancel your TV and your mobile bill goes up by £10 to cover the cost of the calls and texts. I'm £10 worse off if I stay, £20 worse off if I leave.

It was good while it lasted.

Raider999 13-12-2017 11:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35928616)
I was reading more about the new packages on Sky's website. Those who are used to getting retention deals are in for a shock. The FAQ section suggests existing discounts on TV packages, outwith deals for Sky Sports and Sky Movies, will not be carried forward when you get moved over to the same equivalent package in 2018. They days of 50% off and 75% off retention deals appear to be over.

If that's the case my package, once I've tinkered a little, will cost me £10.00 more. Not the end of the world. It's not worth me cancelling. They have played a shrewd game. My wife and I have our mobiles with Sky. Calls and text are "free" as long as you are a TV subscriber. Cancel your TV and your mobile bill goes up by £10 to cover the cost of the calls and texts. I'm £10 worse off if I stay, £20 worse off if I leave.

It was good while it lasted.

Got you by the short and curlies then.

This is the problem with putting all your eggs in one basket as I see it.

denphone 13-12-2017 11:55

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It was only a matter of time sadly for some before the cheap meal ticket ran out.

BenMcr 13-12-2017 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35928616)
I was reading more about the new packages on Sky's website.

Out of curiosity, are those only accessible to Sky customers, or for everyone?

Chad 13-12-2017 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35928643)
Out of curiosity, are those only accessible to Sky customers, or for everyone?

The packages are available now to new customers. Existing customers will migrate from their current package to the new equivalent package early 2018

nodrogd 13-12-2017 13:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928597)
Yes, maybe that's what it is. I remember someone posting about Ride TV.

Just asked the person who gave me this info and he said that from what he remembers (it was years ago) a channel called Rural TV was on Freesat and got into financial difficulties.

In the end they teamed up with Horse & Country and put some of their programmes onto their Sky channel, in return Rural TV put some blocks of Horse & Country programming onto the Rural TV Freesat channel.

Does this tally with what you remember?

I can think of worse channels to put onto VM and I think that they show reruns of Black Beauty :D[COLOR="Silver"]

Yep. That's the one. They gave up on Europe & launched in the US for a while before merging with FamilyNet.

And they can re-run BB as much as they like (the UK made ones that is). Got the whole 52 episodes on DVD. OK so it was aimed at children & is a bit dated now, but due to its reputation at the time everyone that was anyone in the 70s wanted to be in it. The cast lists are an absolute gold mine of talent that moved on to much better things (John Thaw, Mervin Johns & Gwyneth Strong to name a few).

jj20x 13-12-2017 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928506)
There's still an EPG entry for the now closed Playboy on channel 979. I don't subscribe so can't access it, perhaps "Playboy" is a closedown slate that's on there??

Further details:

The original Playboy subscription channel is on SID 1709, the new service is on SID 1710. The new service is testing on 4 internal VM networks (present in the NIT). It is flagged as "hidden", parked on EPG slot 83, marked as being in the "Adult" category of the EPG and has active hours listed as 20:00 to 05:00. The pack codes show it as being included in the Playboy and Adult subscription packages.

As stated previously, the original service is currently marked as carrying the "channel off air" slate from 03:00:00 to 02:59:59.

Media Boy UK 13-12-2017 14:46

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An Fox got tookover by mouse.

BBC News: Disney set to seal $60bn 21st Century Fox takeover

FOX UK to be rebrand as ABC 1?
Your TV to be rebrand as ABC 2?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42333452

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928576)
I'm taking it you mean package changes
https://www.uswitch.com/broadband/ne...s_tv_packages/

Yes.

theone2k10 13-12-2017 15:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35928672)
An Fox got tookover by mouse.

BBC News: Disney set to seal $60bn 21st Century Fox takeover

FOX UK to be rebrand as ABC 1?
Your TV to be rebrand as ABC 2?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42333452

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Yes.

Might be no rebrands, ABC1 used to broadcast in the uk a few years back on freeview i think.

Media Boy UK 13-12-2017 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928674)
Might be no rebrands, ABC1 used to broadcast in the uk a few years back on freeview i think.

ABC1 was also on Sky and Virgin Media.

We was think if The Murdoch family are keeping the name FOX for FOX News and FOX Sports in the America.

All the FOX branded channels outside America will need the new name.

theone2k10 13-12-2017 15:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35928676)
ABC1 was also on Sky and Virgin Media.

We was think if The Murdoch family are keeping the name FOX for FOX News and FOX Sports in the America.

All the FOX branded channels outside America will need the new name.

Be interesting to see what they do.

Horizon 13-12-2017 23:42

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Lets wait for the expected Disney/Fox announcement tomorrow (Thursday) before we start the guessing game of what is going to called what.

Oh, sod it, I'll join in too, how about this "rebrand":

ITV -> ABC

:)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928687)
Be interesting to see what they do.

Beyond channel rebrands/changes, I believe the direct impact of this on VM will be that John Malone will now seek to speed up the Vodafone deal, as discussed here:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/s...8#post35928568

jj20x 13-12-2017 23:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35928737)
Oh, sod it, I'll join in too, how about this "rebrand":

ITV -> ABC

:)

Associated British Corporation?

What is this? 1960? ;)

1andrew1 14-12-2017 00:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35928737)
Lets wait for the expected Disney/Fox announcement tomorrow (Thursday) before we start the guessing game of what is going to called what.

Oh, sod it, I'll join in too, how about this "rebrand":

ITV -> ABC

Um, Disney are buying Fox and 39% of Sky. They're not buying ITV.

RichardCoulter 14-12-2017 00:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35928655)
The packages are available now to new customers. Existing customers will migrate from their current package to the new equivalent package early 2018

I'm sure that this will result in some VM customer bills going up too as they won't be able to use the former Sky discounts as leverage.

If this happens, I guess the only way for those who wish to stay with the traditional suppliers and be able to obtain discounts will be to flip flop between the two to obtain new customer discounts. If VM ever reduced or stopped my discounts this is what I'd do.

As more channels go FTA and more and more cheaper streaming services become available, it does seem odd for their response to be to raise prices :confused:

Horizon 14-12-2017 00:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928739)
Associated British Corporation?

What is this? 1960? ;)

Everything goes in circles if you've been around long enough.;)

Seriously though, ITV and Disney have had a very long working relationship with each other. I guess most people are too young here to remember that "The Wonderful World of Disney" used to be a prominent part of ITV's schedule and Disney has been a direct shareholder in ITV companies from the past.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35928740)
Um, Disney are buying Fox and 39% of Sky. They're not buying ITV.

I know. But just wait and see what happens in the future. ITV will not stay independent, in my opinion. If not Disney, then BT or someone else.

And before anyone says that sounds crazy, one of our major broadcasters (Ch5) is already owned by one of the Hollywood majors and I think, but not sure, that GMTV is one third owned by Disney still.

(Edit: Just checked and Disney sold its GMTV stake to ITV in 2009)

Mobes 14-12-2017 10:16

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With the total Sky TV package becoming available trough broadband at some point next year I fear for VM tbh. Sky will wipe away all those unable to have a dish for whatever reason; including myself! If the discounts etc stop I will absolutely be thinking about switching to Sky.

On a technical point; there's no reason why I couldn't keep VM Boradband and then have the new Sky TV installed is there?. What I mean is (and I'm not great technically) is there any reason why the new Sky TV Broadband wouldn't work if i stayed with VM as the broadband supplier?

Joedm45 14-12-2017 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35928771)

On a technical point; there's no reason why I couldn't keep VM Boradband and then have the new Sky TV installed is there?. What I mean is (and I'm not great technically) is there any reason why the new Sky TV Broadband wouldn't work if i stayed with VM as the broadband supplier?

Technically there is no reason why but I'm going to guess that Sky will only offer this TV package if you take Sky Broadband too. You can see that coming a mile away, especially to begin with anyway.

If this proves popular, I wonder what it will do to the BB speeds. It's one thing using Netflix etc every so often but households constantly streaming throughout the day must have some effect

Mobes 14-12-2017 11:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35928775)
Technically there is no reason why but I'm going to guess that Sky will only offer this TV package if you take Sky Broadband too. You can see that coming a mile away, especially to begin with anyway.

If this proves popular, I wonder what it will do to the BB speeds. It's one thing using Netflix etc every so often but households constantly streaming throughout the day must have some effect

Yes that's something to look out for! :Yes:

nodrogd 14-12-2017 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35928771)
With the total Sky TV package becoming available trough broadband at some point next year I fear for VM tbh. Sky will wipe away all those unable to have a dish for whatever reason; including myself! If the discounts etc stop I will absolutely be thinking about switching to Sky.

On a technical point; there's no reason why I couldn't keep VM Boradband and then have the new Sky TV installed is there?. What I mean is (and I'm not great technically) is there any reason why the new Sky TV Broadband wouldn't work if i stayed with VM as the broadband supplier?

Can’t see full SkyQ functionality running off a Broadband connection. I think Sky TV over broadband will be a small shadow of what is available to dish customers.

Mobes 14-12-2017 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35928786)
Can’t see full SkyQ functionality running off a Broadband connection. I think Sky TV over broadband will be a small shadow of what is available to dish customers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...e-subscribers/

https://www.theguardian.com/business...e-rights-costs

Don't see why full functionality would be a problem via broadband?

spiderplant 14-12-2017 11:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35928788)
Don't see why full functionality would be a problem via broadband?

Have a think about how many channels SkyQ can record, and the amount of bandwidth that would need

muppetman11 14-12-2017 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35928794)
Have a think about how many channels SkyQ can record, and the amount of bandwidth that would need

Unless it makes copies of recordings in the cloud I completely agree.

Mobes 14-12-2017 12:08

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That's what i presumed. It would be a cloud thing! There may well be slight differences but my point on the whole stands!

Sky are opening up to a whole new market once unavailable to them.

VM need to think carefully before implementing increases and lowering retentions!

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https://www.stuff.tv/news/no-dish-no...-broadband-way

Worth a read.

Raider999 14-12-2017 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35928771)
With the total Sky TV package becoming available trough broadband at some point next year I fear for VM tbh. Sky will wipe away all those unable to have a dish for whatever reason; including myself! If the discounts etc stop I will absolutely be thinking about switching to Sky.

On a technical point; there's no reason why I couldn't keep VM Boradband and then have the new Sky TV installed is there?. What I mean is (and I'm not great technically) is there any reason why the new Sky TV Broadband wouldn't work if i stayed with VM as the broadband supplier?


Likely sky will only make it available if you take sky broadband (BT tv only available if you take BT infinity) at least to start with.

When SkyQ came out it was for sky broadband users only for several months.

SonicMaster 14-12-2017 16:23

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December Channel Guide out now.

http://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-tv...-channel-guide

Desktop version: http://virginmedia.com/content/dam/v..._DEC2017V1.jpg

Mobile version: http://virginmedia.com/content/dam/v...le_DEC17V1.jpg

Confirms a few things...

- Dave HD should be included in the UKTV channels 'free view' so someone at VM must have forgotten to add the override flag
- UKTV channels 'free view' is until 3 January
- CBS channels 'free view' is still until 31 December

Interesting that there are still existing customers out there with one of six different TV packages (Player, More, M+, Mix, Fun and Full House) although the only packages now being offered to new customers are Player, Mix and Full House.

ozsat 14-12-2017 19:35

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And the fact that SkyBB use BT lines - and BT can't even provide a single UHD channel to many of their customers via their own BB service.
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35928794)
Have a think about how many channels SkyQ can record, and the amount of bandwidth that would need


alwaysabear 14-12-2017 19:46

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I think sky may come unstuck further down the line, as they cannot provide there own BB network as things stand.

1andrew1 14-12-2017 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35928865)
I think sky may come unstuck further down the line, as they cannot provide there own BB network as things stand.

Who knows what the future holds? Disney could exit the broadband business and sell it to Telefonica O2.

muppetman11 14-12-2017 20:05

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With OTT do content providers even need broadband these days Netflix seems to be doing perfectly well without selling anything other than it's On Demand offering.

Broadband networks require huge sums to constantly maintain and upgrade.

Raider999 14-12-2017 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35928868)
Who knows what the future holds? Disney could exit the broadband business and sell it to Telefonica O2.


If Disney own a lot of sky and BT reviewing their spending on Premier Football it would not surprise me if the UK rights to Premier League fail to reach last times heights or at best stay level.

The Premier League may be in for a shock if they are assuming another huge increase.

1andrew1 14-12-2017 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35928875)
If Disney own a lot of sky and BT reviewing their spending on Premier Football it would not surprise me if the UK rights to Premier League fail to reach last times heights or at best stay level.

The Premier League may be in for a shock if they are assuming another huge increase.

The PL is making far more games available so they're hoping for more TV money not less even if the avaerage price per game reduces.

denphone 14-12-2017 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35928878)
The PL is making far more games available so they're hoping for more TV money not less even if the avaerage price per game reduces.

l predict a 15 to 20% increase in what the Premier league gets from Sky and BT.

vincerooney 14-12-2017 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35928878)
The PL is making far more games available so they're hoping for more TV money not less even if the avaerage price per game reduces.

Whats really odd is the ratings for the premier league are really, really low. I'm staggered why companies bid for them with such low ratings?

If i was sky and BT i'd slyly just agree to pay the same next time each. Cut an illegal deal and see scudamores smacked arse face realise the gravy train money increase has stalled for once

RichardCoulter 14-12-2017 22:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35928655)
The packages are available now to new customers. Existing customers will migrate from their current package to the new equivalent package early 2018

Apparently, existing customers don't have to migrate if they don't want to.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35928794)
Have a think about how many channels SkyQ can record, and the amount of bandwidth that would need

... especially if net neutrality ends

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35928771)
With the total Sky TV package becoming available trough broadband at some point next year I fear for VM tbh. Sky will wipe away all those unable to have a dish for whatever reason; including myself! If the discounts etc stop I will absolutely be thinking about switching to Sky.

Same here, all the other reasons why I would want to support VM have gradually evaporated over the last few years. Their only other USP for me is Quickview!

theone2k10 14-12-2017 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928890)
Apparently, existing customers don't have to migrate if they don't want to.

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... especially if net neutrality ends

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Same here, all the other reasons why I would want to support VM have gradually evaporated over the last few years. Their only other USP for me is Quickview!

Net neutrality is USA not here.

Mad Max 14-12-2017 23:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35928883)
Whats really odd is the ratings for the premier league are really, really low. I'm staggered why companies bid for them with such low ratings?

If i was sky and BT i'd slyly just agree to pay the same next time each. Cut an illegal deal and see scudamores smacked arse face realise the gravy train money increase has stalled for once

Are they?

theone2k10 15-12-2017 00:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35928912)
Are they?

Not really low but the total viewing hours seem to be falling though. https://www.ft.com/content/45e8a3e8-...4-c742b9791d43

it's only a matter of time i think before the bubble bursts.
However SKY also reported last season saw their highest audience for premier league too.

denphone 15-12-2017 05:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928916)
Not really low but the total viewing hours seem to be falling though. https://www.ft.com/content/45e8a3e8-...4-c742b9791d43

it's only a matter of time i think before the bubble bursts.
However SKY also reported last season saw their highest audience for premier league too.

You better repeat that as many have said that before you on this forum and have had to eat that straw hat.;):D

heavyside 15-12-2017 08:42

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I see that Sky and BT have agreed to share their programmes. All BTs sports channels will be available to Sky subscribers and Sky Atlantic will be available on BT via Now TV. I wonder where this leaves Virgin Media?

Source http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42364401

Chad 15-12-2017 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35928930)
I see that Sky and BT have agreed to share their programmes. All BTs sports channels will be available to Sky subscribers and Sky Atlantic will be available on BT via Now TV. I wonder where this leaves Virgin Media?

Source http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42364401

Hell has frozen over! I can see a comfy alliance when it comes to the Premiership bidding process.

denphone 15-12-2017 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35928931)
Hell has frozen over! I can see a comfy alliance when it comes to the Premiership bidding process.

Making even more likely then it was before that they will win every one of the packages for the forthcoming Premier leagues rights auction.

SonicMaster 15-12-2017 08:54

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"UK consumers will have even more ways to watch great Sky entertainment content with our leading portfolio of channels – Sky Atlantic, Sky One and Sky Living – available on all major Pay-TV platforms for the first time."

Hmmm!

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/12/b...g-channel.html

Gavin-D 15-12-2017 09:16

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Two year deal between Sky and BT

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-tv-to-off...om-early-2018/

muppetman11 15-12-2017 09:59

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So Sky will be allowed to wholesale BT Sport when the deal kicks in seems a good result for both sides really.

nialli 15-12-2017 10:05

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Run that passed me again…did the boss at Sky just say that 'our leading portfolio of channels – Sky Atlantic, Sky One and Sky Living – available on ALL major Pay-TV platforms for the first time'??? There's no arguing that Virgin's TV pay-TV platform is a major one (6m households using VM's services in the UK and Ireland) and Darroch can't tell big fibs on these announcements, so I can only conclude that Sky Atlantic, either as a channel or as part of a VM Now TV offering, is on the way any day now.
(Either that, or Sky reckon that this BT deal and the Sky Q over internet service launching next year will kill Virgin TV once and for all…)

denphone 15-12-2017 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35928943)
Run that passed me again…did the boss at Sky just say that 'our leading portfolio of channels – Sky Atlantic, Sky One and Sky Living – available on ALL major Pay-TV platforms for the first time'??? There's no arguing that Virgin's TV pay-TV platform is a major one (6m households using VM's services in the UK and Ireland) and Darroch can't tell big fibs on these announcements, so I can only conclude that Sky Atlantic, either as a channel or as part of a VM Now TV offering, is on the way any day now.
(Either that, or Sky reckon that this BT deal and the Sky Q over internet service launching next year will kill Virgin TV once and for all…)

Its inevitable IMO although some noted respected posters might say differently.

muppetman11 15-12-2017 10:27

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The big difference being BT has never had a relationship with Sky for its entertainment channels unlike VM.

Would VM be happy with it's users having to access the Sky channels through Now TV and handing Sky even more customer relationships.

denphone 15-12-2017 10:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928948)
The big difference being BT has never had a relationship with Sky for its entertainment channels unlike VM.

Would VM be happy with it's users having to access the Sky channels through Now TV and handing Sky even more customer relationships.

Who says its going to be through a Now TV app MM?.

muppetman11 15-12-2017 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928950)
Who says its going to be through a Now TV app MM?.

Will they wholesale it though ? Can't see it myself but who knows I guess anything is possible. With the BT deal subscribers on BT will get access to Sky Arlantic but the customer relationship stays with Sky (Now TV).

nicknewark 15-12-2017 10:40

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It does sound as though it may happen, it wouldn't be a smart move by VM now not to secure these channels. I would imagine they(SKY) are now trying to get SA out to as many homes as they can. It may bolster Subs in a time when customers are dipping in and out of PAY TV.

denphone 15-12-2017 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928952)
Will they wholesale it though ? Can't see it myself but who knows I guess anything is possible. With the BT deal subscribers on BT will get access to Sky Arlantic but the customer relationship stays with Sky (Now TV).

Anything is possible in these changing times MM.

OLD BOY 15-12-2017 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928954)
Anything is possible in these changing times MM.

I never thought I'd hear you say that, Den! The future beckons...f:scratch:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928948)
The big difference being BT has never had a relationship with Sky for its entertainment channels unlike VM.

Would VM be happy with it's users having to access the Sky channels through Now TV and handing Sky even more customer relationships.

Why not, when viewers can access Now TV by alternative means anyway?

As I've said before, Now TV could be made available on VM's boxes to those subscribing to the Full House.

However, the latest developments suggest that Sky Atlantic may arrive as a linear channel rather than via Now TV.

denphone 15-12-2017 11:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928961)
I never thought I'd hear you say that, Den! The future beckons...f:scratch:

Now now OB you must sit down as l don't want you having one of your funny turns again.;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928961)
I never thought I'd hear you say that, Den! The future beckons...f:scratch:

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Why not, when viewers can access Now TV by alternative means anyway?

As I've said before, Now TV could be made available on VM's boxes to those subscribing to the Full House.

However, the latest developments suggest that Sky Atlantic may arrive as a linear channel rather than via Now TV.

Crikey agreeing you is not something this old fossil usually does.:Yikes::eeek:

Gavin-D 15-12-2017 11:46

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Virgin Media is currently the only platform where you can subscribe to all the BT Sport and Sky sports channels (expect UHD) from 2019 that will no longer be the case

vincerooney 15-12-2017 12:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35928966)
Virgin Media is currently the only platform where you can subscribe to all the BT Sport and Sky sports channels (expect UHD) from 2019 that will no longer be the case

For now good sir. You assume it'll end in 2019.

(i thought BT contract ended in 2018 btw)

Mobes 15-12-2017 12:09

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I take it BT aren't getting Sky Sports UHD though!

Gavin-D 15-12-2017 12:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35928969)
I take it BT aren't getting Sky Sports UHD though!

Correct nor are Sky getting BT Sport UHD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35928967)
For now good sir. You assume it'll end in 2019.

(i thought BT contract ended in 2018 btw)

It does even if it is removed from the top TV pack you'd think VM will still agree a new contract to carry the channels somehow

muppetman11 15-12-2017 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928961)
Why not, when viewers can access Now TV by alternative means anyway?

As I've said before, Now TV could be made available on VM's boxes to those subscribing to the Full House.

However, the latest developments suggest that Sky Atlantic may arrive as a linear channel rather than via Now TV.

Because VM viewers wouldnt want to have to access everything through the Now TV app when they can already record everything from Sky bar Atlantic.

I was incorrect with my earlier post as I've since read another link what suggest BT will act as an agent on BT TV selling Now TV.

I'd expect some good deals on both platforms for those wanting both BT Sport and Sky Sports.

denphone 15-12-2017 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35928973)
Correct nor are Sky getting BT Sport UHD

And even less chance of Virgin getting any UHD from these two.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35928973)
It does even if it is removed from the top TV pack you'd think VM will still agree a new contract to carry the channels somehow

Only companies run by fools would not agree a new contract.

theone2k10 15-12-2017 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928925)
You better repeat that as many have said that before you on this forum and have had to eat that straw hat.;):D

I'm used to eating hats with the ammount of predictions i get wrong lol.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35928930)
I see that Sky and BT have agreed to share their programmes. All BTs sports channels will be available to Sky subscribers and Sky Atlantic will be available on BT via Now TV. I wonder where this leaves Virgin Media?

Source http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42364401

There goes Daves "SKY won't let anyone have SKY Atlantic" then lol, though tbf it is only via nowtv on bts platform.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35928943)
Run that passed me again…did the boss at Sky just say that 'our leading portfolio of channels – Sky Atlantic, Sky One and Sky Living – available on ALL major Pay-TV platforms for the first time'??? There's no arguing that Virgin's TV pay-TV platform is a major one (6m households using VM's services in the UK and Ireland) and Darroch can't tell big fibs on these announcements, so I can only conclude that Sky Atlantic, either as a channel or as part of a VM Now TV offering, is on the way any day now.
(Either that, or Sky reckon that this BT deal and the Sky Q over internet service launching next year will kill Virgin TV once and for all…)

We think SKY,VM and BT will unite together with the threat of online providers such as netflix, amazon and the risk of twitter and Facebook throwing their hats into the ring too.
However i think VM are in the weakest position of the big 3 as they have no content to offer in return.
I've said it before and i know many disagree but i'll say it again VM should never of sold of their channels for a start Living was great when vm owned it but now it's a shadow of it's former self, plus by having channels VM would of had that extra bargaining chip too.

OLD BOY 15-12-2017 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928989)
I'm used to eating hats with the ammount of predictions i get wrong lol.

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There goes Daves "SKY won't let anyone have SKY Atlantic" then lol, though tbf it is only via nowtv on bts platform.

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We think SKY,VM and BT will unite together with the threat of online providers such as netflix, amazon and the risk of twitter and Facebook throwing their hats into the ring too.
However i think VM are in the weakest position of the big 3 as they have no content to offer in return.
I've said it before and i know many disagree but i'll say it again VM should never of sold of their channels for a start Living was great when vm owned it but now it's a shadow of it's former self, plus by having channels VM would of had that extra bargaining chip too.

True, but that has not stopped VM from being able to get the channels it wants on its system (with the notable exception of Sky Atlantic and AMC) to date.

What VM does have is subscribers, and by having a contractual arrangement to take Sky and BT's channels, VM will be boosting the audience figures to attract more advertising revenue (or at least to offset a fall off in viewers due to the streaming disrupters).

Things are changing rapidly in this industry and I think there is plenty to be excited about. It is particularly heartening to see Sky's monopolistic barriers coming down. Competition is at last impacting to provide customers with a better deal. There will be much more to come.

Dave42 15-12-2017 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928989)
I'm used to eating hats with the ammount of predictions i get wrong lol.

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There goes Daves "SKY won't let anyone have SKY Atlantic" then lol, though tbf it is only via nowtv on bts platform.

---------- Post added at 13:00 ---------- Previous post was at 12:53 ----------



We think SKY,VM and BT will unite together with the threat of online providers such as netflix, amazon and the risk of twitter and Facebook throwing their hats into the ring too.
However i think VM are in the weakest position of the big 3 as they have no content to offer in return.
I've said it before and i know many disagree but i'll say it again VM should never of sold of their channels for a start Living was great when vm owned it but now it's a shadow of it's former self, plus by having channels VM would of had that extra bargaining chip too.

we have much less channels if they didn't sell them so they did right thing it only reason we got all the sky HD channels

OLD BOY 15-12-2017 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35928998)
we have much less channels if they didn't sell them so they did right thing it only reason we got all the sky HD channels

Fortunately, things are changing now and incidentally, Sky and VM are on much better terms these days. Sky even seem to have patched things up with BT.

Dave42 15-12-2017 13:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928999)
Fortunately, things are changing now and incidentally, Sky and VM are on much better terms these days. Sky even seem to have patched things up with BT.

it a good thing that things are getting better now between the 3 companies should make things better for all customers

theone2k10 15-12-2017 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35929000)
it a good thing that things are getting better now between the 3 companies should make things better for all customers

Absolutely agree with this.

muppetman11 15-12-2017 14:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
I'd have thought this deal helps BT when it comes to negotiations about the wholesale renewal between them and Virgin.

Gavin-D 15-12-2017 14:10

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Do Sky not consider Virgin Media major Pay-TV platform anymore? Sky Atlantic is most definitely not available to VM customers through the Tivo and V6 boxes

Quote:

UK consumers will have even more ways to watch great Sky entertainment content with our leading portfolio of channels – Sky Atlantic, Sky One and Sky Living – available on all major Pay-TV platforms for the first time.
https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels

vincerooney 15-12-2017 14:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35929006)
Do Sky not consider Virgin Media major Pay-TV platform anymore? Sky Atlantic is most definitely not available to VM customers through the Tivo and V6 boxes



https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels

Terrible day this for virgin media. A humiliation in fact. Yet the costs keep rising. With virgin media's current attitude i imagine cable network television will be dead within the decade

All VM are worried about is making more and more money. Squeezing the bottom line. Yet if they spent a bit of money they could compete and make more money....yet we're talking to very poorly educated yanks who've inherited money off their parents who now control everything.

"put the prices up then we make more money!!"
"but we lose a lot of customers that way....if we invested we could maybe get more customers and make more money!"
"what....errrrrr"
"we lose a lot of customers then we raise prices....if we invested we could maybe get more customers and make more money!"
"errr....but if we increase prices we get more money!!! we want money!!! shareholders!!! no long term thinking!!" (claps hand like a seel and barks like one)

denphone 15-12-2017 14:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35929007)
Terrible day this for virgin media. A humiliation in fact. Yet the costs keep rising. With virgin media's current attitude i imagine cable network television will be dead within the decade

Now how many times have l heard that before on this forum in the last 10 tears and each time Virgin come up smelling of roses.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35929007)
All VM are worried about is making more and more money. Squeezing the bottom line. Yet if they spent a bit of money they could compete and make more money....yet we're talking to very poorly educated yanks who've inherited money off their parents who now control everything.

Are not all companies in it to make as much money as they can Vince?.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35929007)
...yet we're talking to very poorly educated yanks who've inherited money off their parents who now control everything.

Not sure about them being poorly educate Yanks Vince.:erm:

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35929007)
"put the prices up then we make more money!!"
"but we lose a lot of customers that way....if we invested we could maybe get more customers and make more money!"
"what....errrrrr"
"we lose a lot of customers then we raise prices....if we invested we could maybe get more customers and make more money!"
"errr....but if we increase prices we get more money!!! we want money!!! shareholders!!! no long term thinking!!" (claps hand like a seel and barks like one)

Unless you want all companies to cut their profit margins and lose money which is how a company should not be run as they would go to the wall pretty quickly IMO.

johnathome 15-12-2017 14:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
The reason for this must be the unsustainable cost of the PL footy rights, and falling subscribers due to piracy (maybe).

The next PL auction rights is going to be interesting :)

Mad Max 15-12-2017 14:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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However i think VM are in the weakest position of the big 3 as they have no content to offer in return.
VM may not have any content as in TV channels to offer, but I wonder if there's a deal in there to allow Sky to access/use Virgin's BB?


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