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Are you not shooting the messenger? He's been asked a question and is giving his response. Bearing in mind the fact that trade deals between any countries take years to complete, to expect Brexit and a trade deal to be completed in two years is a tall order, especially for the UK which needs to build a trade negotiating team.

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We don't negotiate and then leave. That's the weak position. We leave and then negotiate from the position of strength. IF you (The EU) want a trade deal then we talk. Otherwise it's WTO rules.

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In this instance, not a bad thing. :D

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Linky

That's more like it. :)

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I think government strategy is a little further ahead then has been publicly disclosed.

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I said that quite a few pages ago.

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Linky

Quelle suprise. :rolleyes:

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More BBC hating politicians cannot be such a surprise given Rupert is still pulling the strings.

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Shoot the messenger den.;)

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That's what I've been saying since day one.

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Of course it is.

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As a number of us predicted, it looks like the PM is ignoring the Rabid Right and will be seeking to unify for the country:

Theresa May new year message: EU referendum 'laid bare divisions'

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Well, she is a remoaner at heart.....
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...share_btn_link

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That'll be a neat trick, reminds me of that old adage 'try to please everybody, end up pleasing nobody'

I don't think it's possible to do given that the aims on both sides are entirely opposite.

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Isn't it also known as compromise? Both sides will need to give ground ..

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We did that in 75 and ever since - I think we've given enough ground.

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It is quite possible. We leave the EU and negotiate a free trade agreement instead. Best of both worlds.

Only those stubborn Eurocrats and certain EU politicians may prevent this from happening. Then just watch the unrest that follows as it dawns on everyone the impact on EU exporters the UK's exclusion will have. Then watch this space.

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What's 1975 got to do with anything apart from the fact the leavers lost because the democratic decision was to remain in the EC by a much larger % than voted to leave this time round ,so there wasn't much if any ground given

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Linky

I heard this interview and the shocking bias it revealed. Truely aweful. The BBC should apologise to Mr Dowling and the good people of Hull.

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Mmmm an editorial from the Sun, from the same editor responsible for the Hillsborough headlines. Maybe the interviewer did have a bias, but maybe the Sun editor and the interviewee do too..

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Did you ACTUALLY listen to the interview? I did and Kelvin McKenzie is completely correct in his column.

Perhaps you should understand the message rather then desperately trying to shoot the messenger with your prejudice and small minded posts.

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Ironic that the City of Culture which Hull won is a UK copy of the European City of Culture following the success that the award brought to Liverpool.

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You'll find the interview here at 34m 45 seconds in.

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Well given the bbc has been getting money from the EU not surprising it has a bias to be honest the bbc is nothing but an agenda machine truth only counts when it suits them.

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Yes the Beeb is full of communist euro luvvie veggie traitors. Where as the Sun/Express/Mail/Breibart are the voices of truth for the right minded. :rolleyes:

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To be honest whether its a leftie luvvie or a right wing xenophobic they are both as bad as each other Mr K.

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In fairness though the "good people of Hull" have been the recipients of massive amounts of EU funds and Siemens have been flip flopping since the referendum.As far as BBC bias goes who cares.

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I never said anything about the sun or any of that lot not having an agenda or a bias because they do but what they don't have is four billion of citizens money whereas the bbc does and that's why a bias within the bbc is a problem. Now hey if the licence fee is abolished and no money from the people of the UK automatically gets given to the bbc then they can be as low as the others that I don't pay to support.

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The Sun and the rest can be as biased as they like because they are private enterprises and you are perfectly correct in that the public money the BBC relies on forces them to be as unbiased as possible and there have been complaints about BBC bias towards remain in the EU debate ,usually from rabid brexiters like the Sun it has to be said .The BBC are in a no win situation, if they question companies like Siemens about their plans post Brexit they are accused of bias if they don't question them they are accused of bias the other way .I personally have found the BBC's reporting on the EU referendum quite fair.

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Well the BBC is biased either way depending on who you ask.
E.g.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/polit...reporting/amp/

Everyone is biased one way or another, however in an organisation as big as the BBC it usually balances out. The BBC is maybe the only true independent media we have left. Politicians from all sides have tried to bully it. We'll be sorry when it's gone. Do you trust Murdoch's Sky more?

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In the case of kelvin mckenzie I'd say shooting the messenger is entirely appropriate, everytime no matter what

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rofl. :D

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Big maybe! :erm:


http://news-watch.co.uk/bbc-brexit-c...eaving-the-eu/

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I don't trust any of the media including the bbc none of them are content anymore to simply report events they try to shape events and misrepresent events with growing regularity. I cannot stand murdoch and despise him even more then i despise the bbc and when the day comes when the bbc has to survive without our money i most certainly won't miss it.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38498839

Probably guilty of telling minsters the facts; facts that they don't like.

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like:

Source

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Pro-Brexit group struggles with basic economics.

A report which claimed that a ‘Hard Brexit’ would create 400,000 jobs was based on ‘entirely fictional statistics’

http://uk.businessinsider.com/jonath...17-1?r=US&IR=T

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Surely they'll give the role to Nigel Farage? He was only passing around the Ferrero Rochers the other day!
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-11-23/n...bassador-joke/

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Countries outside the EU are irrelevant as the problem isn't actually surviving outside the EU, but having to renegotiate potentially tens of thousands of agreements. No other country is in that position. We are the first to leave the EU.

Bearing that in mind, it's actually logical to prepare for the worst case scenario and hope that it doesn't happen rather than prepare for some bonanza which may or not happen, and hope that it does. This is, as I understand it, what the experts are actually doing. If you prepare for the worst case and it doesn't happen, you've lost nothing, and may actually cope better than if you prepared for the best case and it didn't happen. On the other hand, if you prepare for the worst case, and the best case happens, you have profited.

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That's why I think the BBC is actually the closest we have to a balanced media outlet. I am sure it has it's own biases, but the fact that every political party (and both Leave and Remain campaigns) have complained it is biased against them means, I think it's probably relatively impartial.

That said, I still do question the important stuff they publish, like the articles about Brexit.

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They've always been biased. The difference is now is that with the net you can access many different news sites, so at least you can balance one with another.

I tend to find Reuters reasonably balanced, but there's always spin with them all.

Today on Sky News they're saying civil war is about to break out over Brexit because the country is supposedly totally disunited.... Strange, I've never found an occasion before where the country (NOT London) is so universally united.

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Not even close to being true:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/01/16.png

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Scotland because : English people

London because it's full of non english people.

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.. but the point is being missed, Horizon said "... where the country (NOT London) is so universally united"

couldn't be further from the truth, as Mrs May recently pointed out.

Unless ~50% is the new definition of "united" :)

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Still waiting ..... :sleep:

No wait, you just made it up .. as usual, no evidence to back up the (endless) complaining.

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That or being guilty of being a remainer.

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They would have been British (or from the commonwealth or Ireland) in order to vote.

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Oh yes I'm sure. Thankfully we had the vote when we did, another 5 or so years of the British londoners would have killed it dead.

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Probably guilty of being appointed by the lily-livered ass-hole who ran away when the referendum vote went against him.

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Would you have preferred for Cameron to have remained PM?

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It's interesting how some can interpret things so differently from others.

How is it not true, the country being united, that is?

On your own graph, whole regions of the country voted by a huge majority to vote leave, almost 60% and most of the others by over 50%. Only Scotland, NI and London voted differently. You never get a general election result so overwhelmingly clear like that.

I call that very united!

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52% v 48% is not united. A figure that includes the Remain stronghold of Gibraltar.

That being said, I agree the country is united about the Government getting on and doing Brexit now that we have committed to it.

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Do you really think I'm that stupid?

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The vote from the British people was clear and overwhelmingly. London has skewed the results due to its huge, foreign population.

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I wouldn't have thought previously that you wished Cameron to remain PM. But your recent criticism of him for running away suggests you did not wish him to step down.

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As others have explained - most foreigners were unable to vote in the referendum. The Poles, French, Romanians, Italians...all unable to vote.
Don't forget Scotland, Northern Ireland and many English cities like Liverpool and Manchester all voted to remain.

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Sorry, but you are wrong. Loads of foreigners voted.... have you ever been to London?

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Those who could vote were British, Irish and Commonwealth citizens who lived in the UK, along with Britons who have lived abroad for less than 15 years.
I can imagine Irish nationals would vote Remain. Many Commonwealth nationals voted leave as they felt that if immigration was reduced from the EU, it would increase from Commonwealth countries.
Crucially, no other EU nationals apart from Ireland could vote...and these significantly comprise its foreign population.

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As you correctly pointed out both Irish and Commonwealth citizens voted. Which is over 3 million in London alone... You say that the majority from the commonwealth voted to stay in, I beg to differ.

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Only 3.8m voted in London so Commonwealth/Irish citizens would have formed a percentage of this figure but not 3m of it.

I didn't say the majority from the Commonwealth voted to stay in and I'm not sure this figure is known. I said "I can imagine Irish nationals would vote Remain. Many Commonwealth nationals voted leave as they felt that if immigration was reduced from the EU, it would increase from Commonwealth countries."

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.... as you correctly say the number of commonwealth citizens voting or how they voted is not know. But we can extrapolate a rough guess based on the demographics of each London borough. And guess who is the majority population in the 5 London boroughs that voted to leave...? British of course. The rest of London is majority foreign and it is not out of this world to suggest that they voted a different way. I suggest they did. The correlation is clear.

The 3 million figure I quoted is for foreign residents in London. I didn't say they all voted, that's just how many are registered to vote.

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I get the theory but the facts don't prove it. Take a Remain borough like Richmond. Very few Commonwealth citizens but plenty of EU nationals who couldn't vote. The borough voted Remain.

There's a correlation between people who have strong interactions with immigrants and a vote to remain. Boroughs like Hammersmith & Fulham with low percentages of eligible foreign-born residents still voted to remain.

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Speak truth to power’, departing envoy tells UK Brussels staff
“Serious multilateral negotiating experience is in short supply in Whitehall, and that is not the case in the [European] Commission or in the Council,” he writes. “The government will only achieve the best for the country if it harnesses the best experience we have . . . and negotiates resolutely. Senior ministers . . . also need from you detailed, unvarnished — even where this is uncomfortable — and nuanced understanding of the views, interests and incentives of the other 27.

“I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power.”
Google headline or subscribers' direct link https://www.ft.com/content/88c29514-...1-7393bb2e1b51
Also at: http://news.sky.com/story/britains-o...rexit-10717357

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You have some very wealthy London boroughs like Richmond where all the "elites" live. Google "Islington Sect", if you're not familiar with the term. A few liberals live there too...I would need to check the demographics in those boroughs, but I'm not so sure they are majority British. The Chinese and Arabs own central London now...

But places like Richmond are filled with bankers and media types etc who voted to stay in because of all the cheap foreign labour. The term "Polish Plumber" is very popular in London. So these boroughs, are not representative of how the majority of the population voted.

I'll check the demographics tomorrow, because as said, I don't think they are majority British in any case. But if they are, that would be the reason. They are the rich areas that benefit from foreign labour.

There are 32 London boroughs and the demographics in them are pretty clear. Just not sure about Richmond and a few others. You pick Richmond, I pick Tower Hamlets.;)

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I just wish he did what he said he would do, invoke article 50! He didn't as he did not expect to have to. That makes him an ass-hole!

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The country is most definitely not united ,almost half the voters are against the decision to leave the EU that is why the process up to now has been so so troublesome .You simply cannot say that the vote has united the country .

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Either stayed to follow through on the result as he promised or resigned in a more controlled manner instead of spitting his dummy out .He has done the country a great disservice and if he is never seen in Parliament again it will be too soon

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You can tweak the figures as much as you like but it still doesn't mean the country is united behind Brexit ,the exact opposite is true

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The country had some divisions before the referendum and whether one agrees with Brexit or not that has just widened the divisions as one can see.

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What made him an asshole was his feeble attempt to renegotiate Britain's membership of the EU, painting a false picture of what he had achieved and then trying to fool the British people into believing that catastrophic consequences would flow from our pulling out of this failed bureaucratic superstate.

His position was compromised - he could not provide the leadership required to deliver the will of the British people with credibility. He was right to go.

But yes, he was an asshole.

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It would have been foolish for him to have done so without a negotiating team in place or a strategy. That's why Theresa May will be waiting nearly ten months until she invokes Article 50, keen as she is to get it out of the way before the next election.

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But the list of Commonwealth countries is large and includes "small" countries such as India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nigeria. Apart from EU citizens, most that are not White British or Irish will be from the Commonwealth. Therefore the original point stands.

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The departure of Sir Ivan Rogers now provides Theresa May with an ideal opportunity to put in his place someone who truly believes in Brexit and who will ensure that obstacles are not put in the way by her own negotiating team.

Article 50 will be commenced before the end of March this year, as planned, and negotiations will then proceed immediately.

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Apparently Sir Ivan was the main adviser to Cameron on what he could and could not get from his EU "renegotiation" and "no they won't give you that" was his advice to DC on just about everything so DC never asked for it.:rolleyes:

Trouble is anybody we send to Brussels goes native in a few days and forgets why they're there: To represent the UK in the EU not the other way round.

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Someone in the ambassador's role needs to be a pair of well-informed ears. It may turn out that bad news is more acceptable if it comes from another person. The danger is that it simply becomes a big group think whereby anyone with unpleasant news is drowned out.

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Professor who predicted Brexit and Trump claims European Union will CEASE TO EXIST in 2017

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/750...ation-collapse

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There is only good news when it comes to Brexit.

You'll see.

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Sir Tim Barrow new UK envoy to EU
Sir Tim Barrow will replace Sir Ivan Rogers as the UK's ambassador to the European Union, Sky sources say.
http://news.sky.com/story/sir-tim-ba...urces-10718079

May to pick career diplomat as UK’s new man in Brussels
Four well-placed sources have told the Financial Times that Sir Tim has been recommended for the post by Sir Jeremy Heywood, cabinet secretary, as Mrs May tries to draw a line swiftly under the row over Sir Ivan’s shock departure.
The choice of Sir Tim will be a disappointment to Eurosceptic Tory MPs who have been critical of pro-EU “group think” at the Foreign Office; they wanted to see a candidate with an open mind about the advantages of Brexit.
But Sir Jeremy insisted that the post should not be politicised and said it was a key civil service appointment.
Google headline for full article or subscribers can access via link below.
https://www.ft.com/content/90aa8f1e-...b-680c49b4b4c0

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Fantastic, they've found a 'yes' man. That's all right then. All sorted.... The Ministers can keep living in cloud Cuckoo land.

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I don't think he's a yes man.

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What we need is a 'can do' man, not another abominable 'no man'.

We will soon see how 'complicated' it is to pull free of this wretched organisation.

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Well he won't be if the EU refuses to pay his pension if he does not tow their line!!

I think the best thing Theresa May can do is guarantee his pension if he successfully pulls us out of this quagmire.

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UKRep is paid for by the UK Government.

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That's wrong as he's a UK civil servant so paid by HM Government.
I'm curious, where do you read this misinformation?

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Project Fear Brexit predictions were 'flawed and partisan', new study says

Predictions by the Treasury ahead of Brexit have been brought into question by a new study which says that leaving the European Union will halve net migration, give UK workers a pay rise and help to solve the housing crisis.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ew-study-says/

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Maybe he's thinking of Nigel Farage who will get his nice EU pension....

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lol :D

Meanwhile, LBC's James O'Brien struggles to get a Brexit supporter to answer a simple question. ;)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7510961.html

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Typical remoaner, wanting answers and trying to bring facts into the debate and yes his vote is worth the same as everyone else's and I for one would be happy to sign a petition calling for Mr O'brien to be charged with treason and after the kangaroos have tried him, hung, it's the only way they'll learn, losers

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James O'Brien rarely shuts up long enough for anyone to get a word in. :D

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More pressure on the PM.
Tory donor threatens to stop funding over Brexit plans
A major Tory donor has threatened to stop funding the party if Theresa May plans to remove the UK from the "critical" single market after Brexit.
Sir Andrew Cook, who has given more than £1.2m to the party, told BBC Radio 4 that ending single market access was "chronic and dangerous" to the economy.
The engineering firm chairman said at least one of his factories was almost "entirely dependent" on access to it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38540813

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I doubt that represents an awful lot of pressure. It sounds like a lot of money but the Tories are still very good at attracting big donations. They do not have a cash crisis, unlike some other parties.

Our membership of, or level of access to, the single market, will hinge on far greater concerns than this.

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It's not as many donors are going to donate to others either.

Most of the time viability == cash. If you're not viable the only donors are ideologues who donate out of genuine belief in the cause rather than personal interest and there aren't many of the them. At the moment there is little prospect of anyone other than the Conservatives forming the next government.

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Former UK ambassador to the EU Sir Ivan Rogers quits civil service
Sir Ivan Rogers has resigned from the civil service, days after quitting as the UK's ambassador to the EU.
The Foreign and Commonwealth Office confirmed he would not continue with any role within the civil service.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38542076

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the headline should be


Another remoaner flounces out in hissy fit over brexit

AHH well door hitting ass on way out and all that .

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When we leave we will be leaving completely there will be no deal on continuing access to the single market the EU won't allow it and we need to stop kidding ourselves it's an option. Negotiations are going to start off very tough but will soften somewhat later in the process as the EU has to deal with larger problems and people trying to pretend that the UK has nothing or very little to use to get a deal need to look objectively at the EU and the growing number of issues that are threatening the EU.

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The Original Project Fear - of the EU failing - has been done to bits since 1975. Like all institutions it's imperfect but it's going to be around for the forseeable future as France and Germany believe in it.
The two-year timescale reduced by elections is insufficient to allow both disentanglement negotiations and a trade deal to be struck. That's why some sort of transitional arrangement is likely to be agreed.

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Indeed. Sir Ivanhoe has legged it just after being knighted (2016) the ungrateful git. Still, his title will adorn the letterhead of some private company earning him oodles more than the miserly £170k he was paid in the Civil Service + the usual expenses. He obviously isn't up to facing down his EU mates.

Sir Ivan could be replaced by Sir Andy, who would be a tough negotiator being a tightarse Scot, or Sir Mo, who will run rings around them with his skinny legs :D.

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I personally respect the bloke for his openness .The government are being very "muddled" and if he doesn't think he can do the job required he should go ,which is what he has done .Probably a few more that should go now but will cling on to the bitter end

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Theresa Maybe, Britain’s indecisive premier

The Economist nails it. "The growing suspicion is that the Sphinx-like prime minister is guarded about her plans chiefly because she is still struggling to draw them up."

This comparison is interesting too "Yet Mrs May could turn out to resemble another, less obvious predecessor: Gordon Brown. He, too, was thin-skinned. Like her, he moved into Downing Street without an election, in 2007. He also started with a fearsome reputation and big promises. And when it became clear he had little idea what to do with the job he had so coveted, he flopped. The financial crisis paralysed his government because of his desire to micromanage every decision.
There is more than a little of this in Mrs May."
http://www.economist.com/news/leader...arperhaps-even

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Whether it's true or not that's the conclusion people will come too because of her lack of communication.All i can say is that she'd better have a doozy of a Brexit plan

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Or maybe things are not as clear cut as some like to think and there is a reason why the government doesn't want to outline it's plan till it needs too. End of the day theresa may has been left to sort out a mess she didn't make and it's easy to throw all this criticism at her how about we use this whole thing to setup a system so cowardly politicians are accountable for what they say, i honestly am stunned at how vehemently people are going after may but cameron has walked off scot free no one's hounding him for the complete utter mess he made. Given some of the rhetoric and posturing that's coming out of the EU i wouldn't be declaring my plan either and it's a little funny the loudest voices calling for our plans to be laid out are pro EU. March isn't far away so not long to wait to find out one way or the other.

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:clap::clap::clap:

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Yes, you can guarantee that May will be criticised by a large proportion of those who wanted to remain no matter what she does at this stage. They're trying to undermine the process in order that we wind up with as little real change from the status quo as possible which is exactly what they want. It amazes me that people seem to think this is a simple process when it's so far from it. This is uncharted territory and despite the impression which a few Eurocrats like to give, the EU member states aren't exactly united in what they want either but let's not dwell on that fact. Right now the Brussels elite have on their hands a massively complex task too and if anyone thinks they have a clear plan I think they're confusion planning with intransigence, denial and arrogance.

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people like this .

May’s Brexit rebel secretly met Cameron
Ivan Rogers dined with ex-premier before attack

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ne...eron-r3tx8kbqt

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Theresa May: Government not muddled over Brexit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38546820

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Bit silly linking to BBC. When interview was done on Sky News:-
Let me correct that for you : http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-ma...rexit-10722028

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good perhaps the remoaning can stop .

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news by twitter feed is really annoying to read ,the beeb have a much better concise report

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38546820

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Thank you. In the spirit of goodwill, let me correct your punctuation for you. ;)

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I preferred my punctuation thanks. I'm not really interested if it was right or wrong to be perfectly honest. End result, you understood what it said ! :rolleyes: