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theone2k10 13-08-2017 22:48

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35912358)
I want to watch some Channel 4 programmes that are over a week old, so aren't available on the V6.

Fired up my Samsung TV All 4 app for the first time in months to find it stuck on loading.

An internet search said that this was a known problem after an update to the app and the cure was to reset the Smart Hub.

I did this hours ago and, ever since, whenever I try to access the All 4 app I get the following message:

"Smart Hub is being updated. Please try again later".

Does anyone know how to fix this? If not I'll have to have my first go at casting from my tablet.

Cheers.

Completely power down your tv leave for 60 seconds then switch back on, that normally fixes this issue for my Samsung tv.

passingbat 14-08-2017 14:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912273)
Seriously, this is disappointing. After all that was said by Malone regarding his attitude to content, with the emphasis on acquiring it rather than owning it, and now we learn that it was Liberty Global's decision not to proceed with the Amazon deal.

For me, this is a very serious problem, and if there is not a reversal of this decision, it will impact on my plans to stick with VM. I really want VM to be a magnet for content, but this revelation makes me wonder where the hell they stand.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-growth-cools/

Pay-TV’s push back against streaming is building, however. Two industry sources revealed that last year Virgin Media was close to a deal to add Amazon’s streaming service to its subscription packages, before its parent company Liberty Global stepped in to pull the plug. It is understood the pan-European cable giant held fears about the long-term threat Amazon could pose to its pay-TV business.


Come on OB; get over it and use your Roku!

RichardCoulter 14-08-2017 18:27

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35912366)
Completely power down your tv leave for 60 seconds then switch back on, that normally fixes this issue for my Samsung tv.

Many thanks, I'll try that as soon as I can :)

RichardCoulter 14-08-2017 21:20

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The first feature on tonight's One Show was about the Digital Economy Act which can lead to those viewing content unlawfully going prison for up to 10 years. One man has been sent to prison for 4 years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0916h81

Is this a real threat to such users or simply scaremongering?

theone2k10 14-08-2017 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35912530)
The first feature on tonight's One Show was about the Digital Economy Act which can lead to those viewing content unlawfully going prison for up to 10 years. One man has been sent to prison for 4 years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0916h81

Is this a real threat to such users or simply scaremongering?

He was sent to prison for selling the boxes.
Those who are simply just streaming are fine for now, those who are tech wise and know how to use a vpn will be fine.

denphone 15-08-2017 11:30

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Amazon closes DVD rental service Lovefilm.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...vice-lovefilm/

theone2k10 15-08-2017 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912620)
Amazon closes DVD rental service Lovefilm.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...vice-lovefilm/

Only cinema paradiso left now for dvd rentals.

OLD BOY 15-08-2017 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912620)
Amazon closes DVD rental service Lovefilm.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...vice-lovefilm/

The price of progress, Den. Streaming is the in thing these days.

Mad Max 15-08-2017 13:49

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912651)
The price of progress, Den. Streaming is the in thing these days.


Spot on!

denphone 15-08-2017 14:49

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912651)
The price of progress, Den. Streaming is the in thing these days.

One can their stopwatch by you OB as it did not take you long to offer your reply.;)

OLD BOY 15-08-2017 15:53

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912675)
One can their stopwatch by you OB as it did not take you long to offer your reply.;)

I expect the same from you and Dave as soon as I mention Sky Atantic, which doubtless will be coming to our screens very soon!

denphone 15-08-2017 16:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912685)
I expect the same from you and Dave as soon as I mention Sky Atantic, which doubtless will be coming to our screens very soon!

That famed straw hat is still waiting there for you OB to eat as its just a matter of time before it comes into use again when your famed wise age old predictions goes belly up again and again.;)

buckeye 15-08-2017 17:33

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912687)
That famed straw hat is still waiting there for you OB to eat as its just a matter of time before it comes into use again when your famed wise age old predictions goes belly up again and again.;)

Can I make my own prediction? And I'll eat that straw hat if I'm wrong!

Sky Atlantic will be offered to VM at a reasonable price once Game of Thrones ends next year!

denphone 15-08-2017 17:48

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35912704)
Can I make my own prediction? And I'll eat that straw hat if I'm wrong!

Sky Atlantic will be offered to VM at a reasonable price once Game of Thrones ends next year!

You could well be right buckeye and seeing you are much nicer to me :) OB will still face his likely sentence of eating that straw hat sooner rather then later.;):waving:

buckeye 15-08-2017 18:41

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912707)
You could well be right buckeye and seeing you are much nicer to me :) OB will still face his likely sentence of eating that straw hat sooner rather then later.;):waving:

From the banter on these forums I'm guessing OB could make a few PPV pennies by live streaming his hat eating exploits :D

Kabaal 15-08-2017 19:31

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Some potentially good stuff from Netflix in the next month or so with The Defenders, Death Note, Mindhunter, Disjointed (doesn't sound my my kinda thing but Kathy Bates is in it so worth a try). Narcos is back with a new season in a couple of weeks and Stranger Things next month.

denphone 15-08-2017 19:52

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Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35912727)
Some potentially good stuff from Netflix in the next month or so with The Defenders, Death Note, Mindhunter, Disjointed (doesn't sound my my kinda thing but Kathy Bates is in it so worth a try). Narcos is back with a new season in a couple of weeks and Stranger Things next month.

And don't forget Star Trek Discovery next month either.

BenMcr 15-08-2017 20:10

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Finally got a Netflix date for Season 2 of the Expanse as well

theone2k10 15-08-2017 22:02

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35912704)
Can I make my own prediction? And I'll eat that straw hat if I'm wrong!

Sky Atlantic will be offered to VM at a reasonable price once Game of Thrones ends next year!

Could be onto something here as Sky Atlantics other big hitter show Ray Donovan also ends after this season.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35912727)
Some potentially good stuff from Netflix in the next month or so with The Defenders, Death Note, Mindhunter, Disjointed (doesn't sound my my kinda thing but Kathy Bates is in it so worth a try). Narcos is back with a new season in a couple of weeks and Stranger Things next month.

Also it's rumoured Netflix will have season 4 of Gotham the day after it airs in the US as CH5 have dropped it.

bubblegun 16-08-2017 01:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35912749)
Could be onto something here as Sky Atlantics other big hitter show Ray Donovan also ends after this season.

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Also it's rumoured Netflix will have season 4 of Gotham the day after it airs in the US as CH5 have dropped it.

That's interesting! as I dropped Gotham from the list of series I watched after season 2 when it was already getting seriously dumb!

Joedm45 16-08-2017 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35912749)
Could be onto something here as Sky Atlantics other big hitter show Ray Donovan also ends after this season.

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Also it's rumoured Netflix will have season 4 of Gotham the day after it airs in the US as CH5 have dropped it.

Looks like Netflix picking axed shows up is becoming a strategy, they did the same with Suits after Dave dropped it

OLD BOY 16-08-2017 10:48

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Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35912806)
Looks like Netflix picking axed shows up is becoming a strategy, they did the same with Suits after Dave dropped it

Yes, they need to be careful that they don't de-value their product.

BenMcr 16-08-2017 11:06

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I don't think it's really one or the other though is it?

As long as the picked up shows aren't in place of anything Netflix would have done anyway, I don't see it being a problem?

And as long as they replace those stupid alien conspiracy 'documentaries' then it's not a bad thing!

alwaysabear 16-08-2017 11:09

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If Netflix are showing season 4 of Gotham, it looks like the only way to watch season 3 is on DVD/Blu Ray which are released later this month.
I must say I have not seen anything from Channel 5 to say they have dropped it, but everything is pointing that way.

muppetman11 16-08-2017 12:31

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http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/gotha...ason-3-release

alwaysabear 16-08-2017 13:01

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35912827)

Thanks for the link.:)

Joedm45 16-08-2017 13:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35912827)

Those dates are very interesting, Season 3 DVD release only a few days before Netflix stream it. Bold move and will surely hit sales

denphone 16-08-2017 13:14

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Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35912835)
Those dates are very interesting, Season 3 DVD release only a few days before Netflix stream it. Bold move and will surely hit sales

Absolutely bound to as most people buy their DVD's based on what they have usually seen beforehand and liked Joe.

theone2k10 16-08-2017 14:17

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35912816)
If Netflix are showing season 4 of Gotham, it looks like the only way to watch season 3 is on DVD/Blu Ray which are released later this month.
I must say I have not seen anything from Channel 5 to say they have dropped it, but everything is pointing that way.

Season 3 is on netflix from 1st September.

Edit MM beat me to it.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912836)
Absolutely bound to as most people buy their DVD's based on what they have usually seen beforehand and liked Joe.

This is true yes it's a grey area on how i watch content but if i enjoyed a movie i watched on kodi then i normally end up buying that movie on dvd/blu ray legally.
So in a way kodi could actually be helping the movies/tv industry as a few movies i've enjoyed via kodi and ended up buying i probably wouldn't of thought of watching via legal means so i wouldn't of bought them
A few i know operate this way too.

OLD BOY 16-08-2017 14:31

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35912815)
I don't think it's really one or the other though is it?

As long as the picked up shows aren't in place of anything Netflix would have done anyway, I don't see it being a problem?

And as long as they replace those stupid alien conspiracy 'documentaries' then it's not a bad thing!

Agreed; the point I was making was that they need to choose carefully with de-commissioned series because they may be taking on some dead ducks. There are some very good series which have benefited through Netflix resurrecting them (eg Ripper Street) whereas others may have been better leaving alone.

passingbat 16-08-2017 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912811)
Yes, they need to be careful that they don't de-value their product.


It up-values Netflix. UK networks cancelling shows partway through the series is not uncommon; Netflix picking them up is great.


Suits, White Collar, Chuck spring to mind, and I know there are more.

muppetman11 16-08-2017 23:37

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Apple plans to spend $1billion next year on original programming

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ogramming.html

Netflix wins 'Scandal' creator Rhimes in blow to Disney, ABC

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/...s-Netflix.html

theone2k10 22-08-2017 15:59

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Netflix uk picked up the good place.

Chad 25-08-2017 08:22

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This is a few months old but it's a good article on how some Americans are finding cord cutting more expensive than their old cable bills.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...htmlstory.html

I suppose it all comes down to what you want to do to watch and do you want a DVR. With Amazon launching their Amazon channels here in the UK, and charging around £5 per month for the likes of Discovery and Disney Life, I can see how this might happen in the UK also.

OLD BOY 25-08-2017 09:07

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35913973)
This is a few months old but it's a good article on how some Americans are finding cord cutting more expensive than their old cable bills.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...htmlstory.html

I suppose it all comes down to what you want to do to watch and do you want a DVR. With Amazon launching their Amazon channels here in the UK, and charging around £5 per month for the likes of Discovery and Disney Life, I can see how this might happen in the UK also.

The thing is, with a cable subscription, you need to pay out for the full package just to get the few channels you actually want to see. You can get more choice with a Freeview box and one OTT subscription, which will cost you far less.

I think people will coast between streaming options to get best value, given that there are no long contracts locking you in. You can still save money and increase your choice by combining Freeview with just one streaming service at a time.

bubblegun 25-08-2017 11:45

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35913973)
This is a few months old but it's a good article on how some Americans are finding cord cutting more expensive than their old cable bills.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...htmlstory.html

I suppose it all comes down to what you want to do to watch and do you want a DVR. With Amazon launching their Amazon channels here in the UK, and charging around £5 per month for the likes of Discovery and Disney Life, I can see how this might happen in the UK also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913978)
The thing is, with a cable subscription, you need to pay out for the full package just to get the few channels you actually want to see. You can get more choice with a Freeview box and one OTT subscription, which will cost you far less.

I think people will coast between streaming options to get best value, given that there are no long contracts locking you in. You can still save money and increase your choice by combining Freeview with just one streaming service at a time.

This article may also be relevant regarding American viewing and what OLD BOY said. It's quite funny reading how some people react to the concept of free TV.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...nna/ar-AApmLwm

Chad 25-08-2017 12:47

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Originally Posted by bubblegun (Post 35914002)
This article may also be relevant regarding American viewing and what OLD BOY said. It's quite funny reading how some people react to the concept of free TV.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...nna/ar-AApmLwm

Thanks for the link. That was a good read. Nearly 1/3 of Americans totally clueless that they can watch TV free to air. No wonder cable and streaming has been big business in recent years. It's also interesting that youngsters might never have experienced free to air TV.

buckeye 25-08-2017 23:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913978)
The thing is, with a cable subscription, you need to pay out for the full package just to get the few channels you actually want to see. You can get more choice with a Freeview box and one OTT subscription, which will cost you far less.

I think people will coast between streaming options to get best value, given that there are no long contracts locking you in. You can still save money and increase your choice by combining Freeview with just one streaming service at a time.

You could argue that in the UK we have already reached the point where OTT is as expensive if not more so than a cable/satellite package.

Lets take the most common OTT subscriptions as an example on a monthly basis....
If you were foolish enough to pay full price and not take advantage of vouchers or frequent offers with Now TV then to take the full package of movies, entertainment, kids and sports would be (if my maths is correct) £54.96, add in £7:49 for an HD Netflix subscription and £6:58 for Amazon Prime and you're looking at a pound and a few pence under 70 quid a month.
Factor in £20 a month for a basic internet connection or more likely £30 (at least) for a semi decent connection and you're not far short of £100 a month.

I've worked the above out on the most popular OTT services, I personally wouldn't have every Now TV package (not without offers anyway) but if my subscription costs were that much a month I'd rather pay that out so that the services I want could hopefully flourish and provide their wares for many years to come.
What I wont do ever again is pay that sort of amount each month to subsidise a load of rubbish just so I can have the channels and content I do want.

spiderplant 26-08-2017 10:12

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35914065)
What I wont do ever again is pay that sort of amount each month to subsidise a load of rubbish just so I can have the channels and content I do want.

I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?

buckeye 26-08-2017 11:06

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35914084)
I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?

I would liken Netflix and Amazon to subscribing to a premium channel, you're not going to like everything on that channel but its your choice whether to subscribe or not.
The pay tv model is to force you into paying for hundreds of channels in order to get the ones you want.

On another note I am experiencing one of the major downsides to relying on OTT services, when your internet goes down you're fubared!

Thank heavens for Three's unlimited 4G data which via my virtual router is now feeding my devices :)

theone2k10 26-08-2017 12:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35914089)
I would liken Netflix and Amazon to subscribing to a premium channel, you're not going to like everything on that channel but its your choice whether to subscribe or not.
The pay tv model is to force you into paying for hundreds of channels in order to get the ones you want.

On another note I am experiencing one of the major downsides to relying on OTT services, when your internet goes down you're fubared!

Thank heavens for Three's unlimited 4G data which via my virtual router is now feeding my devices :)

I had that nightmare with Origin luckily i'm still with SKY for a couple of months and ofcom got involved with Origin broadband and forced them to allow me to leave without penalty.
With a much better provider now apart from the weekly drop out which is just my dynamic ip addy being changed i've had no issues.

OLD BOY 26-08-2017 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35914084)
I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?

I think there is a big difference, spider. There is far more rubbish on the (non premium) pay channels and good stuff is hard to come by. Channel hopping is the most frustrating experience ever - absolutely nothing of merit on for most of the time. I have always prided myself at how I manage to retrieve a sufficient number of gems from the schedules to record, but this last year has seen a big reduction in shows worth recording. Most of my recordings (apart from the lifestyle programmes for my wife) are from free terrestrial channels and reside on my DVD recorder. Although both of my V6s are 80 to 90% full (with HD recordings) the number of good quality dramas on there is fairly sparse - very disappointing.

Whereas, it takes no time at all to rack up some jolly good stuff on Netflix and Amazon - so many hours of it, I'm never going to be able to watch it all.

That's why so many people are beginning to question the value of their pay tv packages. 200 odd channels and nothing on. And very expensive, at that.

denphone 26-08-2017 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35914084)
I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?

There is no difference.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914100)
I think there is a big difference, spider. There is far more rubbish on the (non premium) pay channels and good stuff is hard to come by. Channel hopping is the most frustrating experience ever - absolutely nothing of merit on for most of the time. I have always prided myself at how I manage to retrieve a sufficient number of gems from the schedules to record, but this last year has seen a big reduction in shows worth recording. Most of my recordings (apart from the lifestyle programmes for my wife) are from free terrestrial channels and reside on my DVD recorder. Although both of my V6s are 80 to 90% full (with HD recordings) the number of good quality dramas on there is fairly sparse - very disappointing.

Whereas, it takes no time at all to rack up some jolly good stuff on Netflix and Amazon - so many hours of it, I'm never going to be able to watch it all.

That's why so many people are beginning to question the value of their pay tv packages. 200 odd channels and nothing on. And very expensive, at that.

Rubbish as open your eyes and you might be pleasantly surprised.

OLD BOY 26-08-2017 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914105)
There is no difference.

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Rubbish as open your eyes and you might be pleasantly surprised.

I can assure you, Den, I scour the TV guide in a fine toothcomb.

You have a right to disagree with me, but I can't think what you must be watching. There has been a distinct reduction in programme quality in this last year on the pay tv channels.

buckeye 26-08-2017 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914105)
There is no difference

I would argue there is a huge difference.
If I want to subscribe to premium content on pay TV I am forced to take a package of channels I do not want.
Those non premium channels have no incentive to attract me as a viewer because they are getting their guaranteed income from the pay TV provider from my subscription to a service I don't want.

With Netflix I choose to pay them my monthly subscription, if they don't produce content I want to watch then I simply cancel my sub.

For me Amazon is slightly different as I would have a Prime account anyway, but if you just wanted their video service then the principle I outlined above would hold true.

Further more I am not restricted to the pay TV operators propriety equipment in order to view OTT services.

theone2k10 26-08-2017 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35914116)
I would argue there is a huge difference.
If I want to subscribe to premium content on pay TV I am forced to take a package of channels I do not want.
Those non premium channels have no incentive to attract me as a viewer because they are getting their guaranteed income from the pay TV provider from my subscription to a service I don't want.

With Netflix I choose to pay them my monthly subscription, if they don't produce content I want to watch then I simply cancel my sub.

For me Amazon is slightly different as I would have a Prime account anyway, but if you just wanted their video service then the principle I outlined above would hold true.

Further more I am not restricted to the pay TV operators propriety equipment in order to view OTT services.

Den can't see past Virgin media he dismisses a lot without actually backing it up.

denphone 26-08-2017 18:41

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35914128)
Den can't see past Virgin media he dismisses a lot without actually backing it up.

l have criticised Virgin quite a few times but it seems your memory has done a vanishing act in a most convenient manner.:p:;)

theone2k10 26-08-2017 19:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914130)
l have criticised Virgin quite a few times but it seems your memory has done a vanishing act in a most convenient manner.:p:;)

My memory is poor due to a head injury sir yes but time and time again you dismiss anything anyone says about other methods.

denphone 26-08-2017 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35914135)
My memory is poor due to a head injury sir yes but time and time again you dismiss anything anyone says about other methods.

l am not dismissing anybody at all so you need to be less precious just because somebody else shares a differing opinion from yours as life is all about opinion's at the end of the day..:)

theone2k10 26-08-2017 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914139)
l am not dismissing anybody at all so you need to be less precious just because somebody else shares a differing opinion from yours as life is all about opinion's at the end of the day..:)

Don't get me wrong i value your opinions you are a great contributer to these forums, but sometimes you need to accept that times are changing.
Maybe i'm simply just mis understanding your posts.

OLD BOY 27-08-2017 00:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914139)
l am not dismissing anybody at all so you need to be less precious just because somebody else shares a differing opinion from yours as life is all about opinion's at the end of the day..:)

Seriously, Den, we all have opinions, but just sometimes we need to back our views up with something that sounds credible.

Lately you have been dismissing so much as if it was hogwash, but there's no substance behind those strong views of yours.

You've seen plenty of links to back up what people are saying about future direction. Where are yours?

:shrug:

buckeye 27-08-2017 11:21

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Not the greatest deals ever but I've just noticed Argos are selling the Now TV boxes with either a 3 month entertainment pass or a two month movie pass for £12.49 at the moment,
given the price rice of the entertainment package to £7.99 a month I think a three month pass for that price is an ok deal.

theone2k10 27-08-2017 12:07

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Anyone after a chromecast they are currently £19.99 in currys/pc world.

Kabaal 27-08-2017 12:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35914169)
Not the greatest deals ever but I've just noticed Argos are selling the Now TV boxes with either a 3 month entertainment pass or a two month movie pass for £12.49 at the moment,
given the price rice of the entertainment package to £7.99 a month I think a three month pass for that price is an ok deal.

If you don't need the box then Cash Generators will give you a fiver for it too, at least the one in my town does.

buckeye 27-08-2017 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35914172)
If you don't need the box then Cash Generators will give you a fiver for it too, at least the one in my town does.

I've got 5 boxes collecting dust here that came with the cheap vouchers I wanted, think I might take a walk down to the local Cash Generators tomorrow unless someone on these forums wants a 2nd gen Now TV box or two for gratis.

denphone 27-08-2017 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914150)
Seriously, Den, we all have opinions, but just sometimes we need to back our views up with something that sounds credible.

Lately you have been dismissing so much as if it was hogwash, but there's no substance behind those strong views of yours.

You've seen plenty of links to back up what people are saying about future direction. Where are yours?

:shrug:

You might well be right OB :Yes: but your history on many threads has as much substance as a grain of quicksand.;)

---------- Post added at 20:41 ---------- Previous post was at 20:35 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914150)
Seriously, Den, we all have opinions, but just sometimes we need to back our views up with something that sounds credible.

Lately you have been dismissing so much as if it was hogwash, but there's no substance behind those strong views of yours.

You've seen plenty of links to back up what people are saying about future direction. Where are yours?

:shrug:

Links mean nothing as generally its just one persons highly subjective opinion on a subject.

OLD BOY 28-08-2017 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914206)
You might well be right OB :Yes: but your history on many threads has as much substance as a grain of quicksand.;)

---------- Post added at 20:41 ---------- Previous post was at 20:35 ----------



Links mean nothing as generally its just one persons highly subjective opinion on a subject.

If they are industry links, they are worth taking seriously. Blogs and stuff from some of the tabloids you can take with a pinch of salt.

Hugh 28-08-2017 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35914171)
Anyone after a chromecast they are currently £19.99 in currys/pc world.

Luckily, my Sony TV has it built in it's Android OS... :D

theone2k10 28-08-2017 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35914247)
Luckily, my Sony TV has it built in it's Android OS... :D

Nice, i'm thinking of a Sony android tv as my next tv you posting this has just made my mind up i'm going to buy one soon.

OLD BOY 28-08-2017 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35914251)
Nice, i'm thinking of a Sony android tv as my next tv you posting this has just made my mind up i'm going to buy one soon.

It doesn't have Now tv, though, if that is important to you.

It does have a Kodi app, though, although I seem to have spent too much time on that achieving very little. Too much that I'd like to see that I cannot access legally.

theone2k10 28-08-2017 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914269)
It doesn't have Now tv, though, if that is important to you.

It does have a Kodi app, though, although I seem to have spent too much time on that achieving very little. Too much that I'd like to see that I cannot access legally.

Don't use nowtv mate thanks for the heads up though.

OLD BOY 28-08-2017 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35914287)
Don't use nowtv mate thanks for the heads up though.

No problem, theone. I assumed you had suitable equipment to get it anyway, even if you don't use it!

theone2k10 28-08-2017 18:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914291)
No problem, theone. I assumed you had suitable equipment to get it anyway, even if you don't use it!

Got a black nowtv box somewhere in my box of goodies as i call it lol.

denphone 29-08-2017 18:36

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Very irritating that Now TV does not have the full season 7 of Game of Thrones.:(:td:

SnoopZ 29-08-2017 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914457)
Very irritating that Now TV does not have the full season 7 of Game of Thrones.:(:td:

Which episodes are missing as i watched most on now TV?

denphone 29-08-2017 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35914462)
Which episodes are missing as i watched most on now TV?

Episode's 1.2 are not there at all and 3 won't be in about 7 hours.

SnoopZ 29-08-2017 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914464)
Episode's 1.2 are not there at all and 3 won't be in about 7 hours.

Damn you left it too long to watch it i guess.

OLD BOY 29-08-2017 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914464)
Episode's 1.2 are not there at all and 3 won't be in about 7 hours.

We are in the 'catch up' period at the moment, Den, often happens when a series is first shown.

Keep an eye out, the whole series will be back before long.

denphone 29-08-2017 20:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914468)
We are in the 'catch up' period at the moment, Den, often happens when a series is first shown.

Keep an eye out, the whole series will be back before long.

l hope so as we like to watch series in their entirety OB.

theone2k10 29-08-2017 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914470)
l hope so as we like to watch series in their entirety OB.

Give it a month or so and full season should be there.

denphone 30-08-2017 04:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35914488)
Give it a month or so and full season should be there.

Thanks.

johnathome 31-08-2017 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35914203)
I've got 5 boxes collecting dust here that came with the cheap vouchers I wanted, think I might take a walk down to the local Cash Generators tomorrow unless someone on these forums wants a 2nd gen Now TV box or two for gratis.

Do they have full catchup and wifi? If they do i'd paypal you some money for delivery if you want to send me one :)

buckeye 01-09-2017 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35914793)
Do they have full catchup and wifi? If they do i'd paypal you some money for delivery if you want to send me one :)

Yes they have wifi and all the main catchup services, however I do believe you have to set up a Now TV account to get them to work, don't worry you don't need to pay Now TV any money though.

If you want one you can have it, don't worry about sending any money just PM me your address, although I wann I'm pretty busy at the moment so it'll probably be a week or so until I get time to post it.

johnathome 01-09-2017 17:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35914874)
Yes they have wifi and all the main catchup services, however I do believe you have to set up a Now TV account to get them to work, don't worry you don't need to pay Now TV any money though.

If you want one you can have it, don't worry about sending any money just PM me your address, although I wann I'm pretty busy at the moment so it'll probably be a week or so until I get time to post it.

Just sent you a PM.

Thanks again it'll be ideal for the bedroom TV.

muppetman11 04-09-2017 10:05

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Sky Original Production Tin Star set for a second series on Sky Atlantic and TV streaming service NOW TV.

Series 1 available in its entirety from 7th September.

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...service-now-tv

RichardCoulter 05-09-2017 13:02

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Can anyone help with this? The Amazon app comes up as Lovefilm and doesn't work (despite him updating his TV):

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33705357

denphone 05-09-2017 13:10

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Perhaps this has something to do with it Richard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40925062

Joedm45 05-09-2017 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35915347)
Can anyone help with this? The Amazon app comes up as Lovefilm and doesn't work (despite him updating his TV):

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33705357

I would say the app needs updating but if it's like my 4 year old Samsung TV then there is no obvious way to do it. It just pops up saying 'updating apps' from time to time.

Amazon video took over Lovefilm some time ago so I'm surprised he's still getting the Lovefilm splash screen.

theone2k10 07-09-2017 13:51

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This is my main fear about buying tv shows and movies on digital only.
http://cordcuttersnews.com/cinemanow...access-movies/

buckeye 07-09-2017 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35915617)
This is my main fear about buying tv shows and movies on digital only.
http://cordcuttersnews.com/cinemanow...access-movies/

And then there's the other problem of companies losing the rights to some shows and movies.
One would think buying digital content from someone like Amazon should be pretty bullet proof from them going under but if they lose the rights to the thing/s you have purchased (which has happened in the past) then you're fubared.

theone2k10 07-09-2017 16:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35915636)
And then there's the other problem of companies losing the rights to some shows and movies.
One would think buying digital content from someone like Amazon should be pretty bullet proof from them going under but if they lose the rights to the thing/s you have purchased (which has happened in the past) then you're fubared.

Exactly at least on dvd or blu ray it's yours forever.

denphone 07-09-2017 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35915655)
Exactly at least on dvd or blu ray it's yours forever.

Absolutely as l much prefer it that way.

heero_yuy 07-09-2017 18:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35915655)
Exactly at least on dvd or blu ray it's yours forever.

Or downloaded to hard drive.

theone2k10 07-09-2017 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35915684)
Or downloaded to hard drive.

Some don't allow that though.
Some use ultra violet too which is a preference.

doreen12 08-09-2017 08:17

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fruits

buckeye 09-09-2017 13:43

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A quick heads up for anyone interested,
Now TV monthly sports passes are being sold off at Argos for £25 at the moment.
As my £20 a month deal ends at the beginning of October I've just bagged a couple, however there seems to be limited availability, of the many Argos stores in SW London available to me only two had them in stock.
There is an option to get them delivered but that adds £3:95 to the cost which makes them a little less attractive.

buckeye 10-09-2017 18:07

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Let me save anyone the hassle I went through today, ignore my previous post and do not buy these cheap Now TV monthly passes from Argos.
I shall try to abridge my experience to fit into a readable post.

I turned up at 10am when the store opened to pick up my "fast track" order, another 30 minutes passed as they tried to find my vouchers, eventually the store manager who had become involved handed me two monthly Sky Sports passes, I asked "well aren't you going to activate them?" to which he feigned ignorance and told me I just had to scratch off the number and apply it on my account.
I politely explained that the cards were worth nothing at all unless he activated them, cue another 20 minutes whilst they tried to do the activation and eventually being told they would have to give me a refund.
The staff in this Argos store were stupid enough to hold their conversations very loudly so I could hear what they were saying, from their conversations it seems these passes they are selling off are out of date and will never be activated or work!

I guess they think most people buying one don't know the procedures or wont bother going back when the voucher doesn't work.
Lesson learnt for me, I got full refund and will never be tempted to fall for Argos selling off vouchers on their own cheaply again.

jj20x 10-09-2017 21:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35915984)
I politely explained that the cards were worth nothing at all unless he activated them, cue another 20 minutes whilst they tried to do the activation and eventually being told they would have to give me a refund.
The staff in this Argos store were stupid enough to hold their conversations very loudly so I could hear what they were saying, from their conversations it seems these passes they are selling off are out of date and will never be activated or work!

I guess they think most people buying one don't know the procedures or wont bother going back when the voucher doesn't work.
Lesson learnt for me, I got full refund and will never be tempted to fall for Argos selling off vouchers on their own cheaply again.

I've never had to have a Now TV pass "activated", they have worked perfectly well as described to you by the Argos staff. They are basically scratch cards. The validity period for activation is, nominally, 1 year from the date of purchase. So hang on to your receipt if you don't plan on activating the pass straight away.

The pass is activated when you type the code into your Now TV account and activate it.

I believe there is an activation process for "gift cards", were you buying a gift card or a Now TV voucher?

muppetman11 10-09-2017 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35916011)
I've never had to have a Now TV pass "activated", they have worked perfectly well as described to you by the Argos staff. They are basically scratch cards. The validity period for activation is, nominally, 1 year from the date of purchase. So hang on to your receipt if you don't plan on activating the pass straight away.

The pass is activated when you type the code into your Now TV account and activate it.

I believe there is an activation process for "gift cards", were you buying a gift card or a Now TV voucher?

Completely agree that's exactly how I've done it.

muppetman11 11-09-2017 14:45

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Wonder if Sky will now use it's OTT service to expand into other countries.

It's service has now gone live in Spain
https://www.sky.com/es-spa/

buckeye 11-09-2017 15:23

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I've only ever bought boxes that came with vouchers from Argos before which didn't need activating however when I bought the vouchers from other stores they always came with two receipts one for the sale and one to prove the voucher has been activated after the staff run it through the card machine.

I have fallen foul of non activated vouchers in the past when I've bought them from Amazon, for this reason I never buy Now TV vouchers from them anymore, not one was activated and whilst I got refunds ok the staff had no idea what I was talking about.

muppetman11 11-09-2017 17:03

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I've never bought one that was activated and never ever had a problem.

theone2k10 12-09-2017 21:17

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Ginxesport has been added to tvplayer plus.

Kabaal 14-09-2017 09:09

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The new Amazon FireTV coming out later this year or next sounds interesting.

TLDR :

Built in IR emitter to control things like your TV
Proper alexa integration with mic and speakers meaning you won't need to use the remote, makes having a DOT surplus
Likely higher spec hardware

Quote:

The new flagship Fire TV model is the unreleased “AFTA” device that surfaced for the first time last week. Without the luxury of a leaked benchmark, I don’t know anything about its technical specifications, but I have learned that it essentially combines the functionality of a Fire TV, an Echo Dot, and an IR emitter, like the Harmony Hub, into a single device.

The cube-shaped Fire TV has a series of holes on top to accommodate its array of far-field microphones that allow you to talk to Amazon’s Alexa voice assistant without needing to use the voice remote, although one is still included. A speaker built into the Fire TV allows you to hear responses from Alexa if your television is turned off. It is likely that this new top-tier Fire TV model will have additional ports and functionality not found on the new mid-tier model, like Ethernet and expandable storage, but details are unknown.

On top of the device are the exact same buttons found on the Echo Dot. A pair of volume buttons control the built-in speaker, a mute button allows you to disable the microphones, and an action button lets you manually trigger Alexa. The device also includes a familiar blue LED light bar that is common to all of Amazon’s Alexa devices.

Amazon recently made it possible to control their existing Fire TV devices using an external Alexa device, like the Amazon Echo or Echo Dot. With the inclusion of far-field microphones directly in the new Fire TV, an external Alexa device will no longer be necessary to achieve hands-free voice control of your television.

Much like existing Fire TV models, the new Fire TVs will be able to turn on and control newer televisions that support the HDMI-CEC standard. However, most TVs in people’s homes don’t support the standard and those that do often have limited functionality. That is why Amazon is also including an IR emitter in the new flagship Fire TV, which should give it the ability to control the vast majority of televisions and A/V equipment.

With its built-in IR capabilities, the new flagship Fire TV will give most people hands-free voice control of their existing television and media center, without needing any additional equipment. Thanks to Alexa’s newly added entertainment capabilities, you can expect to be able to turn your TV on and off, control the volume, change inputs, and more without needing to pick up a remote for certain tasks.
http://www.aftvnews.com/exclusive-th...eased-in-2017/

buckeye 14-09-2017 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35916358)
The new Amazon FireTV coming out later this year or next sounds interesting.

TLDR :

Built in IR emitter to control things like your TV
Proper alexa integration with mic and speakers meaning you won't need to use the remote, makes having a DOT surplus
Likely higher spec hardware



http://www.aftvnews.com/exclusive-th...eased-in-2017/

That sounds very interesting, if it can be paired with my Bluetooth speakers for when the TV and amp are off I might be replacing my current Fire TV and Echo Dot setup with one.

RichardCoulter 15-09-2017 14:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35916237)
Ginxesport has been added to tvplayer plus.

TV Player Plus has now been added to Freesat. I never knew they had so many restrictions:

https://tvplayer.com/channel-availab...content=473347

I wonder why this is??

BenMcr 15-09-2017 14:23

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If you notice, there are quite a few platforms which share the same channel availability.

For instance Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, Windows 10, Xbox One, Roku are all 'missing' the same channels.

OLD BOY 15-09-2017 17:30

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I have just stumbled across this article from last March, which appears to suggest that John Malone is indeed open to Amazon appearing on Liberty Global and Virgin Media boxes, which is a relief to me.

There does appear to be some problem of alignment that needs to be ironed out first, but it's good to know that Amazon and other streaming services could appear on our Tivos in the future.

Let's hope it's the near future and not 'coming soon' in the VM sense (visions of long grass come to mind!).

http://www.multichannel.com/blog/bau...ble-box/411439

denphone 15-09-2017 17:37

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35916647)
I have just stumbled across this article from last March, which appears to suggest that John Malone is indeed open to Amazon appearing on Liberty Global and Virgin Media boxes, which is a relief to me.

There does appear to be some problem of alignment that needs to be ironed out first, but it's good to know that Amazon and other streaming services could appear on our Tivos in the future.

Let's hope it's the near future and not 'coming soon' in the VM sense (visions of long grass come to mind!).

http://www.multichannel.com/blog/bau...ble-box/411439

Eternal optimism knows no ends OB.;)

OLD BOY 15-09-2017 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35916650)
Eternal optimism knows no ends OB.;)

You ol' party pooper, Den!:cool:


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