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Another Yae for sky fibre. :tu:
It's been 100% 24/7 solid for me and really is unlimited unlike others ( you know who I'm referring too) who only claim to be for marketing purposes. |
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What settings do i need to change on the SH to stop the Monitor displaying constant RED as i have forgotten and trying to setup a new SH?
---------- Post added at 12:42 ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 ---------- I have disabled IP flood protection but it is still all RED, what else do i need to do? :) ---------- Post added at 13:03 ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 ---------- Think i have found the setting to change it but it hasn't changed the graph yet. |
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You need to set up a new monitor if you have a new SH
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Make sure your IP hasn't changed, which it almost certainly has. Also it takes time for the graph to move, unticking the IP flood protection won't magically make the graph appear green.
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It is working now, I liked the old graph a little better though.
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Had some stability recently which is always nice.
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Finally found out what was causing the spikes on my graph. You can see the last couple of spikes going through yesterday evening.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...19-04-2013.png It was the guy next door using my FON hotspot for facilitating his cloud up and downloads. He was uploading and downloading large graphics files for his business at regular intervals, driven by his software. He was tired of using his BT ADSL connection and couldn't believe his luck when he discovered the available bandwidth on FON. He got free access because he has BT FON WiFi. It's funny because from time to time my android and a laptop automatically log onto his BT FON when I'm on his side of my house. I have no problem with this. I should have checked my FON connection log. Up until now, no one has used my hotspot! Running it just gives me free access to BT FON and millions of FON spots world-wide. I told him he can carry on using my FON spot, but I will be dropping the available bandwidth; still way above what he gets with BT. :D |
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does rebooting the SH, powering down for 30seconds then powering up sort out your monitor?
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Had my doublespeed upgrade a couple of weeks ago. I think it's never looked better
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Switched over to full SH2 mode, having moth-balled my beloved WNDR3700. :cry:
I'm not impressed with my TBB monitor readings if they are indicative of anything at all. [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Mean latency is around 20 rather than my usual 11 and there are, as you can see, a lot of pronounced spikes. Speed tests seem unaffected, just the higher latency. Time will tell if this affects my actual user experience. [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] |
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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/05/48.png
I'm happy with my speeds, the ping's pretty unstable though. :( |
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Or stop doing...
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Looks like the "ramping" and "devils horns" thenry is seeing, resolved by restarting the dud, or by putting it into modem mode
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First I turned the hub off and then back on.
Then the VM chap asked me to turn it off again so he could send some thing ! a signal I think it was and then to turn it back on again. He said if there was no improvement to get back in touch. That's it and it has improved. |
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anyone able to advise on the cause of the increase in minimum latency?
I'm in the FK1 area. It been quite high now for a few weeks, it normally runs along the 20 mark. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-04-2013.png |
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the firmwares crap. modem modes the saving grace for VM. an option the fools didnt put in initially! take over the router market BT and co, VM are in a bubble of their own.
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so how do I sort this?
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modem mode. link your own choice of router.
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What might be causing this rather drastic change in my TBB profile. Looks like, at least, a local network issue, but the immediate vicinity looks OK.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...25-04-2013.png Tracing route to thinkbroadband.co.uk [80.249.99.130] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1] 2 6 ms 5 ms 7 ms 10.14.112.1 3 9 ms 7 ms 9 ms brhm-core-2b-ae3-944.network.virginmedia.net [21 3.106.230.165] 4 6 ms 7 ms 9 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253 .174.77] 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253. 174.18] 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 105 ms 92 ms 92 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.9 7.9] 9 101 ms 96 ms 98 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130] Trace complete. This doesn't look too clever. Two time outs in or just after the VM network. Speed tests show only 20Mb instead of my usual 104Mb. However a ping test gives my latency as being only slightly higher than my usual 11ms. http://www.pingtest.net/result/80353537.png http://www.pingtest.net/result/80353708.png Edit.............................................. ..................... Oh! Just got this speed test https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/04/8.png and this from TBB https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/04/9.png Is this also a TBB issue? |
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Looks like something between you and TBB as others are okay
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I'm not sure we can call this a bump or blip. What can we call it? The column? The shaft? The Phallus?
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routing failover?
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For that to be a routing failover there'd have to be a lot of fail and very little over.
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The 'phallus' is up again this morning!!
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Ignore the very busy graph overnight. That was me torrenting! SH2 shows such activity much more in full router mode than in modem-only. |
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Nothing down here in bedfordshire
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I got a tiny shaft myself, last night (steady!):
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There seems to be a lot of testosterone around in the mornings!
Remembering the last widespread bump we had it became clear that there was a problem at peak times with the gateway from VM networks to shared networks. However this appendage looks different and starts when most people are still in bed. Its onset and demise are very abrupt like the last bump, but it plateaus throughout. It looks controlled and deliberate to me. Could it be the result of off-peak works on certain cross-country data routes? An explanation would be good. Trouble is it is so hard to post a TBB graph in the help forum I get put off posting there. |
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I have that bump to in the morning (120Mb) in Lincoln.
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It looks like you had a reboot at around 10:00. Did you change to two upstream channels? |
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For everyone else with the weird spike, where does your tracert's take you,
I found a NOC on enta net regarding the Telford data centre and VM's connectivity : http://noc.enta.net/2013/04/planned-...-connectivity/ |
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The shaft has now become an evening feature. Given that it affects my internet performance this is exactly where it is not needed.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...26-04-2013.png BTW. If anyone would like to add their comments please feel free to do so here. http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1816702#M21379 Attempts are being made to raise the profile of the issue. |
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You got double shafted?!
VM haven't seen fit to shaft me, yet... I just have lots of little spikes, as usual. |
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Still not got upstream bonding in uddingston but it's not unusual as uddingston is always the last part of vm network to get any upgrades
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I've just noticed that I now have two upstreams as well (Liverpool). The 120 upgrade is still listed as July-September so I don't know if that's significant.
No idea when that happened, not checked in a couple of weeks. EDIT: On closer inspection, it might have just happened today at about 4pm - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...26-04-2013.png Also found this in the Modem log: Quote:
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My Graph
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Here are two tracerts taken this morning during the bump. It is looking suspiciously like a peering problem again, at the VM gateway to the shared network. Tracing route to thinkbroadband.co.uk [80.249.99.130] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1] 2 5 ms 9 ms 6 ms 10.14.112.1 3 6 ms 13 ms 7 ms brhm-core-2b-ae3-944.network.virginmedia.net [21 3.106.230.165] 4 18 ms 7 ms 9 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253 .174.77] 5 19 ms 9 ms 9 ms nrth-bb-1b-et-000-0.network.virginmedia.net [62. 253.175.14] 6 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253. 174.18] 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 94 ms 92 ms 97 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.9 7.9] 9 95 ms 101 ms 93 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130] Trace complete. Tracing route to BBC.co.uk [212.58.253.67] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1] 2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 10.14.112.1 3 17 ms 6 ms 7 ms brhm-core-2a-ae3-938.network.virginmedia.net [21 3.106.229.93] 4 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms brhm-bb-1c-ae17-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.25 3.174.73] 5 12 ms 14 ms 14 ms tcl5-ic-2-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.250 .15.210] 6 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms 212.58.239.249 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 17 ms 18 ms 16 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93] 9 17 ms 16 ms 21 ms 132.185.255.156 10 29 ms 18 ms 18 ms www-vip.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.67] Trace complete. ---------- Post added at 06:45 ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 ---------- Quote:
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\User>tracert www.bbc.co.uk Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.92] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.156.124.1 2 10 ms 7 ms 7 ms midd-core-2a-ae3-791.network.virginmedia.net [213.106.239.61] 3 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms leed-bb-1c-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.45] 4 * 9 ms 9 ms leed-bb-1b-ae10-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.25] 5 33 ms 16 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-et-410-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.175.50] 6 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18] 7 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237] 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 41 ms 20 ms 20 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93] 10 18 ms 19 ms 17 ms 132.185.255.165 11 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms bbc-vip013.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.92] Trace complete. Time: 22:34 Date: 27/04/2013 |
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My traffic takes quite an odd route to bbc
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The timing of the phallus different day. Perhaps the engineers are church-goers.
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Why is it when I do a speedtest in IE the ping is 10ms but if I do the test in Google chrome this ping is 19ms ?
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Speedtest.net Namesco: Firefox - 36ms Chrome - 20ms Opera - 18ms IE10 - 16ms Obviously these are difficult to be 100% sure on, because my ping's all over the place anyway. Pinging the same server on the command line gives the following results: Code:
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I get good speeds 99.9% of the time, but the upstream utilisation in this area is ruining pings. Hopefully the 120mbit upgrade in the next month will fix it. I'll not bother holding my breath though. |
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Im on Sky, thats the difference, to be honest, thats the highest jitter I have actually seen from my connection (1ms) it is usually non existant
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Ah, so you are. It's pretty impressive. If I could've gotten FTTC I would have. :(
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Here's mine. No idea what was going on between 6-8pm, no one was in using the connection.
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Well 3 guesses as to how well my connection is doing right now.
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SH2 in Router mode with wireless (dual band) on.
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SH2 Router mode with 2.4ghz and 5ghz on the same ssid (note how the average latency is still quite low, it's just a small number take longer consistently which fills the graph with yellow)
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SH2 in modem mode
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That's not your Superhub, is it? It looks like the mighty CMTS to which it is connected.
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Superhub2 in router mode.
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here is mine today, as I've said before my minimum latency in the past was just slightly below 20, now its constantly over that and sometimes as high as 40.
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...or their backup line
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People don't know how lucky they are compared to a year ago: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/05/45.png |
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I definitely do.
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Oh dear
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Also, wondered what happened at 7 this morning? Nothing in the logs Cheers Grim |
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I'm using the same firmware as several triallists. I cannot account for it.
But I point out again that max pings mean nothing if the average doesn't move. You could have tens of pings in a minute, all very low, but just one of them high that doesn't affect the average. But there's lots of yellow on the graph, of course. |
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My graph looks terrible like most other SH2 graphs but it doesn't seem to affect my connection in any way, can you explain that with your knowledge?
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Back in SH2 modem-only mode. The two blips are me caning the upstream.
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@ Snoopz: I can't really explain it because it's just a graph viewed from a distance. But it seems that your own circuit was being used till at least 21:00 and possibly to 03:00. The rest of it till you pick up again at 15:00 today is the mystery.
If it's not usage on your node (unlikely overnight) then it's most like the SH2 doing things. If you've got firewall turned on, then it's doing stuff. I think VM are looking at this but not as a priority because it hasn't got on top of anyone yet. That's the best I can offer. |
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As soon as i started browsing at 3pm i get these huge yellow spikes. It is definitely the SB2 as this is my regular graph with the SH1 in router mode. [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] I should try the SH2 in modem mode sometime and see if i get a similar graph as above. |
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...08-05-2013.png However the connection itself is incredibly stable. I looked into it and apparently this is normal for some routers, who deliberately keep the ICMP ping responses on the lowest priority (In this instance, it's a Draytek router doing it). Is it possible the SH2 is doing this as well? It would explain why the connection doesn't seem to be affected. |
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I tried my SH2 with firewall on & high setting - no difference to my graph.
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I have just entered Modem mode and started a new TBB graph, i expect it to look like similar to my SH1 graph although i maybe suffering from a little packet loss issue the last few days, and it will be interesting to see if that goes away.
Edit I am just getting a solid band of red on my new TBB graph, how can i avoid that in modem mode? Will it be a setting in my Comodo software firewall? |
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