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Media Boy UK 18-09-2009 14:47

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Setanta Sports UK Full out: More Magners League coming to Virgin TV confrim.

NOTE: Highlights of Glasgow and Edinburgh game is on every Sunday on STV.

September
18th. Ospreys v Leinster - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 19:00.
19th. Scarlets v Munster - Magners League - S4C from 18:00.
25th. Glasgow v Ospreys - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 19:00.
26th. Cardiff v Scarlets - Magners League - S4C from 18:00.

October
2nd. Ulster v Scarlets - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 19:00.
3rd. Newport Gwent Dragons v Connacht - Magners League - S4C from 16:30.
3rd. Cardiff v Glasgow - Magners League - S4C from 18:30.
4th. Ospreys v Edinburgh - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 16:00.
23rd. Scarlets v Newport Gwent Dragons - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 19:00.
24th. Cardiff v Ospreys - Magners League - S4C from 18:30.
30th. Ospreys v Glasgow - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 19:00.
31st. Leinster v Cardiff - Magners League - S4C from 18:30.

November
1st. Edinburgh v Newport Gwent Dragons - Magners League - S4C from 17:05.

December
4th. Scarlets v Edinburgh - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 19:05.
5th. Ospreys v Munster - Magners League - S4C from 18:30.
6th. Newport Gwent Dragons v Leinster - Magners League - S4C from 17:05.
26th Scarlets v Ospreys - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 14:05.
27th. Glasgow v Edinburgh - Magners League - STV from 15:05.
27th. Cardiff v Newport Gwent Dragons - Magners League - S4C from 18:00.
31st. Newport Gwent Dragons v Scarlets - Magners League - BBC2 Wales & BBC Red Button from 14:05.

January 2010
1st. Ospreys v Cardiff - Magners League - S4C from 17:15.
3rd. Edinburgh v Glasgow - Magners League - STV from 15:05.

All Fixtures news from ''live football on tv''.

Horizon 18-09-2009 15:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34874454)
BSkyB's Darroch attacks Ofcom pay-TV pricing plans.

Berkett said yesterday that he expects access to Sky HD and the wholesale pricing to be sorted out within 12 months. (Personally, and as I've mentioned before, I'll believe VM will get Sky HD just after analogue is turned off on VM, the timing being by pure coincidence, of course...)

A few other titbits he mentioned at the Goldman Sachs conference yesterday:

280Mhz of spectrum will be freed up when analogue is shut down. There is around 750Mhz in total.

DOCSIS 3 takes up around 15% of spectrum. Once analogue is shutdown, some of that freed up capacity will be used to bond the upstream channels on DOCSIS 3.

(In English, this means faster uploads)

Berkett is raving about his 3 screens approach. You have what content you want, when you want it and where you want it, whether it be on tv, mobile or PC screen via broadband.

He expects within 12-24 months to launch an application that will enable users to pause a tv programme on one tv, then resume the programme on a PC in another room, as but one example of IPTV/next gen tv.

Berkett really hit home, that he believes "application" is key, rather than content. (well, he would, wouldn't he...?) The ability to search for content ie comedy, whether it be a linear tv channel, VOD, something on the internet will become seamless, he thinks. He intends to launch applications that will remove any such distinction.

(Note, I don't expect anything until 2011 at the earliest, because the contract with Liberate, who supplies the EPG to VM, doesn't expire until then. So, I don't expect to see Berkets's wonderful new IPTV/next gen applications until then. I'm happy to be proven wrong)

zantarous 18-09-2009 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyjayuk (Post 34874495)
Honestly, “forget Ofcom”?! Who else can force Sky to play fair? Because they won’t, unless they’re forced to.

On the one hand I want Sky HD and red button on VM but on the other hand I can see Sky's point as well, they took all the risk and made the investment which paid of and now they may be forced to supply content cheaper to their rivals? Are there any other industries where a similar thing happens? BT comes to mind with unbundling their exchanges but that was built with tax payer money.

The cable companies were happy to sit back and do nothing about investing in their future, although that was probably due to being crippled by the cost of laying cables. It is about time there was a fair playing field, but a lack of vision,the stupid idea of cable franchise has hindered the industry far more then Sky.

Horizon's post sound interesting but lets hope we don't have to wait for ever to see these new applications.

Felim_Doyle 18-09-2009 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34874504)
280Mhz of spectrum will be freed up when analogue is shut down. There is around 750Mhz in total.

DOCSIS 3 takes up around 15% of spectrum. Once analogue is shutdown, some of that freed up capacity will be used to bond the upstream channels on DOCSIS 3.

(In English, this means faster uploads)

Cool! :cool: I really feel that we should have less asymmetry in the downstram / upstream speeds on cable broadband. So, maybe 10 & 2Mb/s, 20 & 4Mb/s, 50 & 10Mb/s and higher. Ideally it would lead to a VDSL-like service with upload and download speeds adjusting to demand but, as this would be more like a business broadband service, it's unlikely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34874504)
He expects within 12-24 months to launch an application that will enable users to pause a tv programme on one tv, then resume the programme on a PC in another room, as but one example of IPTV/next gen tv.

Cool! :cool: Let's go to bed and watch the rest of the movie upstairs!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34874504)
(Note, I don't expect anything until 2011 at the earliest, because the contract with Liberate, who supplies the EPG to VM, doesn't expire until then. So, I don't expect to see Berkets's wonderful new IPTV/next gen applications until then. I'm happy to be proven wrong)

I know we've been through this discussion with contracts for channels and their time-shift and High Definition variants but surely, if VM are ready to introduce ground-breaking advances in their delivery mechanism, they would already be in negotiations with their EPG supplier or with a new supplier for the new platform.

TheDon 18-09-2009 19:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34874564)
On the one hand I want Sky HD and red button on VM but on the other hand I can see Sky's point as well, they took all the risk and made the investment which paid of and now they may be forced to supply content cheaper to their rivals? Are there any other industries where a similar thing happens? BT comes to mind with unbundling their exchanges but that was built with tax payer money.

The cable companies were happy to sit back and do nothing about investing in their future, although that was probably due to being crippled by the cost of laying cables. It is about time there was a fair playing field, but a lack of vision,the stupid idea of cable franchise has hindered the industry far more then Sky.

Horizon's post sound interesting but lets hope we don't have to wait for ever to see these new applications.

"cheaper" = at a price where they actually have an incentive to sell the services, rather than one where they make nothing, very little, or lose money. Not to mention that it's not just about cheaper, but also comparable. The red button is non-price discrimination which is simply unacceptable.

As for other industries where a similar thing happens, every single utility, and for the mother of all "monopolies" go look at microsoft. There really is an example of a company that drove innovation and then got royally screwed over because they happened to be successful. Sky should think themselves VERY lucky that they're only dealing with ofcom and not the EU competition commission because they would split the company in two at the drop of a hat.

Sky's position also seems to be one of pointing at VM and going "well they didn't invest, so they lose!" but it ignores the fact that the cable franchises in the early days were predominately just broadcast platforms, and only picked up TV channels later to try to compete, at a time when the market for premium content was already wrapped up, and with Sky's market penetration and content lock-in it's near impossible to actually compete with their channels, as setanta did a great job of showing.

zantarous 18-09-2009 21:13

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But weren't all the utility companies built using tax payer money? Sky had to invest private money into the venture. Comparing MS to Sky is like apples and oranges. Would you be so eager if the government forced Virgin to open their cable network to rivals so they could all deliver broadband or TV over fibre?

Horizon 18-09-2009 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34874564)
On the one hand I want Sky HD and red button on VM but on the other hand I can see Sky's point as well, they took all the risk and made the investment which paid of and now they may be forced to supply content cheaper to their rivals? Are there any other industries where a similar thing happens? BT comes to mind with unbundling their exchanges but that was built with tax payer money.

The cable companies were happy to sit back and do nothing about investing in their future, although that was probably due to being crippled by the cost of laying cables. It is about time there was a fair playing field, but a lack of vision,the stupid idea of cable franchise has hindered the industry far more then Sky. .

True, but there are no cable franchises now, albeit a few other tiny cable cos, so that's now a past issue. The playing field is more level now, because VM is a big company and the only one with a quality two-way network just as everything is going on the internet, even tv.

Although I agree in part with the "Sky have invested heavily why should they share argument", you need to look at how Sky got to that position.

No idea how long you have been following media issues, I've been following Sky and the cable cos from the beginning. But just like Microsoft, Sky has used ruthless tactics to get where it is. It's by no means whiter than white. Look up the Sky/Travel Channel spat from around 15 years as but one early example.

There's a reason why today, Sky owns 50% of many of the main channels that are carried on its satellite platform...

What will happen if Sky are forced to sell premium content at wholesale prices to competitors, is obvious. They'll pay less for it in the future.

Sky currently pays well over the odds for the premiership football rights and Hollywood films. That will stop, it will pay less. VM/BT et all will pick up some future film/sports rights and instead of paying one price for all sports and film channels as supplied by Sky. We'll have to pay for multiple channels to see all the sports/films in the future. It's competition and it's good for everyone, isn't it??.....erm.:erm:

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 34874586)
I know we've been through this discussion with contracts for channels and their time-shift and High Definition variants but surely, if VM are ready to introduce ground-breaking advances in their delivery mechanism, they would already be in negotiations with their EPG supplier or with a new supplier for the new platform.

Well, VM already announced they're buying a load of Cisco hardware, but this is for the networks, rather than stbs or software. Of course VM will need to have agreements in place before/if they switch EPG suppliers. But they've still got 18 months to sort that out, then it all needs to be tested. So I think my post the other day about we wont see IPTV/next gen tv on VM for another 3 years is realistic.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 34874586)
Cool! :cool: Let's go to bed and watch the rest of the movie upstairs!.

Actually, the V+ is capable of multi-room functionality if it had the right software. So you could've paused the video downstairs then carried on watching it in the bedroom. Sadly, this was not implemented by VM.

Have a look at the American cable cos web sites, some of them have been doing this for a few years now.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 34874599)
As for other industries where a similar thing happens, every single utility, and for the mother of all "monopolies" go look at microsoft. There really is an example of a company that drove innovation and then got royally screwed over because they happened to be successful. .

And of course Microsoft/Gates never did anything to hurt their competitors, all of whom are all still in business today....Of course Microsoft, just like Sky, are whiter than whiter, pure as the driven snow - albeit with a "few" splashes of red in there too.:)

zantarous 18-09-2009 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34874663)
No idea how long you have been following media issues, I've been following Sky and the cable cos from the beginning. But just like Microsoft, Sky has used ruthless tactics to get where it is. It's by no means whiter than white. Look up the Sky/Travel Channel spat from around 15 years as but one early example.

All big businesses get to where they are with ruthless aggressive tactics unfortunately that is the capitilist way, play nice and the big guy crushes you. I am not saying Sky is in right and want to see all platforms carry all channels and bring down the price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34874663)
So you could've paused the video downstairs then carried on watching it in the bedroom. Sadly, this was not implemented by VM.

Have a look at the American cable cos web sites, some of them have been doing this for a few years now.

What I would love is being able to watch stuff that I have recorded on my V+ on my V box in the bedroom, it is usually when I am in bed that I think i would love to see such and such.

Andrewcrawford23 18-09-2009 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34874655)
But weren't all the utility companies built using tax payer money? Sky had to invest private money into the venture. Comparing MS to Sky is like apples and oranges. Would you be so eager if the government forced Virgin to open their cable network to rivals so they could all deliver broadband or TV over fibre?


Cable is not national so there is no competieotn issues there, but i acutally think virign should open there network up as they make mroe money and we get mroe channels as the channels pay for the bandwidht and the epg.

I agree sky invest so should get money back like BT are for Fibre, but bt isnt allowed to get it at there price forever i hikn it for about 3-5 years. so sky should be no different they get the money back which they have for the investment in red button and hd then there price are set at regulator price not sky price, but the problem is sky does nto want anyone to compete they want the totally domiance and that why thye hould be forced.

Felim_Doyle 18-09-2009 22:58

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Short version, for a change, because it's the weekend, I'm tired, being forced to watch 'Strictly Come Dancing' etc. etc. etc.

I dunno where to draw the line between fair competition and 'Nanny State' but I don't want too see too much 'big whip' competition and not too much inapropriate regulation either.

If we all had Cable TV and Broadband to our doors like BT 'phones then things would be on a more even footing between Virgin Media and BSkyB (formerly British Satellite Broadcasting and Sky). I highlight 'more' because I appreciate that it probably isn't cheap to pay for satellite rental but it's probably not fair for the rights to all the sports etc. to go to one broadcaster when they are not the free or cheap or even best option. If cable were everywhere, probably more people would have cable than Freeview and way more than Sky. The VM Cable service has the advantage of two-way interactive, broadband internet and telephone, as well as mobile if you want the full monty.

You choose but if one party or cartel had the monopoly on something as basic as petrol/diesel (OPEC / The Milk Marketing Board) and put the competition out of business they would have a pay-per-fill-up monopoly. Then they could charge what they like for oil / milk and we'd all have to suck it!

mikkyh 18-09-2009 23:59

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Brilliant thread! Thanks a lot for all the info. Wow, 20-30 HD channels? Sounds good to me :P

musicbravo 19-09-2009 00:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkyh (Post 34874759)
Brilliant thread! Thanks a lot for all the info. Wow, 20-30 HD channels? Sounds good to me :P

Where has this 20-30 idea come from. This will not happen until after analogue switch off. this is the kind of issue that the VM sceptics latch onto

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and now my apology to mikkyh, i forgot how old i was the other week and now it appears i have forgotten what year we are in. So your comment stands and i retract mine oops:

hashmat 19-09-2009 08:15

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New here:) Being of asian background I know that sky has number of asian channels in its "free to view" lineup but I don't see any on Virgin network.Are there any plans to add them to its lineup?
Regards.

moroboshi 19-09-2009 09:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hashmat (Post 34874852)
New here:) Being of asian background I know that sky has number of asian channels in its "free to view" lineup but I don't see any on Virgin network.Are there any plans to add them to its lineup?
Regards.

The hilarious thing is that some Indian channels are actually free to air on satellite, but Virgin makes then premium channels on cable.

Oh the joys of a closed network.

kgollop 19-09-2009 17:47

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Living HD not coming untill October according to a post on Nialli's blog:

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

stevo1312 19-09-2009 18:22

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does anyone think espn mite put some red button content on there channels or be included in the three screen deal? just a thot as they're disney owned.

zantarous 19-09-2009 19:03

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Can't say I am surprised about Living HD but let's hope it is due to talks with Sky and more good news to come.

As for ESPN I would think that is unlikely unless the have been buying mobile and streaming rights to their content.

Fred Fish 19-09-2009 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 34875069)
Living HD not coming untill October according to a post on Nialli's blog:

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

Whilst this all sounds likely, what is Nialli's pedigree? I dont wish to sound sceptical but time and time again I have heard people say - I have heard for somebody in VM - this or that -

If it is likely that this is more beleivable (not just that it sounds likely - we can all speculate - then great to have a reliable source, otherwise I get a bit fed up with conjecture being presented as fact.....

gadge 19-09-2009 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 34875069)
Living HD not coming untill October according to a post on Nialli's blog:

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

I would imagine it will be before oct 31st iirc they said they would be showing most haunted live at halloween in hd.Which i think is a 9 day special.

mhatter67 19-09-2009 22:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 34875153)
I would imagine it will be before oct 31st iirc they said they would be showing most haunted live at halloween in hd.Which i think is a 9 day special.

Night vision in HD lol :D

musicbravo 19-09-2009 23:03

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maybe i'm a bit behind the times but here goes. Just noiced living player is available via the red button

Hiroki 20-09-2009 00:49

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When did they start putting adverts in VOD stuff? Totally devalues it.

Andrewcrawford23 20-09-2009 00:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 34875233)
When did they start putting adverts in VOD stuff? Totally devalues it.

a while ago i think there was trial and it getting them money most peoel like it so it stays, as longs as it at the begining i dnt mind i wont liek it in the middle

Hiroki 20-09-2009 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34875235)
a while ago i think there was trial and it getting them money most peoel like it so it stays, as longs as it at the begining i dnt mind i wont liek it in the middle

We just watched a channel 4 program before and it had adverts at the start and one advert in the middle......thought they used to push this service on the grounds that it was advert-less? Shame.

locutus1974 20-09-2009 01:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 34875238)
We just watched a channel 4 program before and it had adverts at the start and one advert in the middle......thought they used to push this service on the grounds that it was advert-less? Shame.

There have been adverts on the 40D things for a while. There are not any adverts on the itv player, living,virgin1, or bravo programs on catch-up or on demand programs that i have watched today.

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it may be part of the contract with 4OD or a trail run we will have to see.

Media Boy UK 20-09-2009 11:23

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Post one will be moving back to an Monday's update from Tomorrow.

Media Boy UK 21-09-2009 13:25

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Last weeks update now online.

I hope to have this weeks list online later (Been sent at my end).

Media Boy UK 21-09-2009 16:05

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ESPN to broadcast two World Cup Qualifiers in October.

On Saturday October 10th.
Denmark v Sweden will be shown LIVE on ESPN from 19:00.

On Wednesday October 14th.
Germany v Finland will be shown LIVE on ESPN from 19:45.

Fixtures info from - live football on tv.

Nook29 21-09-2009 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34875915)
ESPN to broadcast two World Cup Qualifiers in October.

On Saturday October 10th.
Denmark v Sweden will be shown LIVE on ESPN from 19:00.

On Wednesday October 14th.
Germany v Finland will be shown LIVE on ESPN from 19:45.

Fixtures info from - live football on tv.

They advertised them on ESPN yesterday as well, along with their other football.

Media Boy UK 21-09-2009 16:24

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oops

I did not see that ad - I only watch ESPN when SPL games is on.

braysoj1 21-09-2009 16:57

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any news on blue square premier tv rights and fa cup tv rights

Andrewcrawford23 21-09-2009 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 34875938)
any news on blue square premier tv rights and fa cup tv right

BSP is mostly likely to be internet only no company is bidding fo rit fa cup i tink espna dn sky are after it

Nook29 21-09-2009 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 34875938)
any news on blue square premier tv rights and fa cup tv rights

ESPN recently ended talks with BSP.

Media Boy UK 21-09-2009 19:11

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This weeks list now online - see post one.

EDtheRED03 21-09-2009 19:59

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Media Boy

Any chance you could launch the football listings as a seperate thread prior to the re-launch in January?

Handy section of your post to see if there is any matches worth watching!

Nook29 21-09-2009 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EDtheRED03 (Post 34876068)
Media Boy

Any chance you could launch the football listings as a seperate thread prior to the re-launch in January?

Handy section of your post to see if there is any matches worth watching!

My ESPN blog updates weekly with all the weeks live sport. Check livesportontv.com for sport listings.

Media Boy UK 21-09-2009 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EDtheRED03 (Post 34876068)
Media Boy

Any chance you could launch the football listings as a seperate thread prior to the re-launch in January?

Handy section of your post to see if there is any matches worth watching!

Done

Go to: http://footballonvirgintv.blogspot.com/

EDtheRED03 21-09-2009 23:00

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Spot on, thanks MB!

nialli 21-09-2009 23:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Fish (Post 34875115)
Whilst this all sounds likely, what is Nialli's pedigree? I dont wish to sound sceptical but time and time again I have heard people say - I have heard for somebody in VM - this or that -

If it is likely that this is more beleivable (not just that it sounds likely - we can all speculate - then great to have a reliable source, otherwise I get a bit fed up with conjecture being presented as fact.....

I think most folk around here know me well enough to know that my sources are reliable and that any speculation on my blog is clearly marked as such. I was told on Friday that Living HD is "still on course" for October, although when in October I don't know.

Andrewcrawford23 21-09-2009 23:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 34876222)
I think most folk around here know me well enough to know that my sources are reliable and that any speculation on my blog is clearly marked as such. I was told on Friday that Living HD is "still on course" for October, although when in October I don't know.

It all depends on sky, they wont launch it until they can get carriage on sky but they wont accept a low amount and are trying to doa exchange with sky 1 hd but hay we all know sky plays hard ball

i aint saying it hink you are wrong or right jsut pointing out that october might be late as well

Media Boy UK 22-09-2009 11:10

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''Free Pass Weekend'' comes to Sky Movies....
....Between 6pm on Friday 30th October and 6am on Monday 2nd November.

But I do not know if Virgin Media are going to show the Sky Movies ''Free Pass Weekend.'' yet.

Sky Movies Screen 1 broadcasts on Virgin Channel 411.

http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com...ky-movies.html

Felim_Doyle 22-09-2009 11:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34875203)
maybe i'm a bit behind the times but here goes. Just noiced living player is available via the red button

I only noticed the red button about two hours ago so you're way ahead of me! :( However, I didn't see it last night while watching the Hoffs. ;)

Media Boy UK 22-09-2009 11:56

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I noticed something like that on Sunday Morning.

But I was busy reading the Mail on Sunday and being QPR Manager - on my PS2 - I forgOt I saw it.

Felim_Doyle 22-09-2009 13:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34876243)
It all depends on sky, they wont launch it until they can get carriage on sky but they wont accept a low amount and are trying to doa exchange with sky 1 hd but hay we all know sky plays hard ball

i aint saying it hink you are wrong or right jsut pointing out that october might be late as well

:confused: Hmm! Despite all my years as a member of this thread, I still don't see why a channel would hold off launching on one platform because they haven't yet signed agreements with another.

Given that Living HD is owned by VM and that they already have a barker channel in place on VM cable advertising the new service, there would surely have to be a better reason for holding back.

If they wanted to go for an all-platform launch, they'd have to wait for agreements to be signed with Sky, FreeSat and FreeView and then await the launch of the HD service on FreeeView too.

Even if it's a case of swapsies for a Sky HD channel they wouldn't need to wait to launch Living HD on VM cable since the counterpart Sky HD channel is already broadcasting on Sky satellite!

Andrewcrawford23 22-09-2009 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 34876489)
:confused: Hmm! Despite all my years as a member of this thread, I still don't see why a channel would hold off launching on one platform because they haven't yet signed agreements with another.

Given that Living HD is owned by VM and that they already have a barker channel in place on VM cable advertising the new service, there would surely have to be a better reason for holding back.

If they wanted to go for an all-platform launch, they'd have to wait for agreements to be signed with Sky, FreeSat and FreeView and then await the launch of the HD service on FreeeView too.

Even if it's a case of swapsies for a Sky HD channel they wouldn't need to wait to launch Living HD on VM cable since the counterpart Sky HD channel is already broadcasting on Sky satellite!

Nope only sky as it has the biggest customer base, that is why channel wilkl not go exculsive to virgin etc, i know itv done it but that was a agreemetn with freesat so they could gain some numbers. if a channel wants to launcht they need ot be on sky for advertising reasons.

livign wont launch on freesat or freeview it ecrpted channel

jst 22-09-2009 17:14

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Top Gear coming to BBC HD november 15th

Xanta 22-09-2009 18:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jst (Post 34876656)
Top Gear coming to BBC HD november 15th

This news confirmed on the BBC HD Blog :) This is great news!

devilincarnate 22-09-2009 21:03

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Hey i have just noticed this reply from virgin on twitter in regards to living hd launch :

virginmedia: @Sharpy55 Shouldn't be long at all - they are almost ready. You can be sure it'll be on VM first :)

so by this they are not waiting for sky ?

and also have to say very good news about top gear going to be shown in hd .

Media Boy UK 22-09-2009 21:23

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UEFA Europa League on Virgin TV update:

TBC - UEFA Europa League - ITV4 from 17:30 (Channel 117)
Bate Borisov v Everton - UEFA Europa League Group I - ESPN from 17:30 (Channel 529)
Valencia v Genoa - UEFA Europa League Group B - ESPN from 20:00 (Channel 529)
Celtic v Rapid Vienna - UEFA Europa League Group C - Five from 19:30 (Channel 105/855)
Fulham v FC Basel - UEFA Europa League Group E - ITV4 from 20:00 (Channel 117)

Ties to be played on Thursday October 1.

Info from livefootballontv.com.

Nook29 22-09-2009 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34876780)
UEFA Europa League on Virgin TV update:

TBC - UEFA Europa League - ITV4 from 17:30 (Channel 117)
Bate Borisov v Everton - UEFA Europa League Group I - ESPN from 17:30 (Channel 529)
Valencia v Genoa - UEFA Europa League Group B - ESPN from 20:00 (Channel 529)
Celtic v Rapid Vienna - UEFA Europa League Group C - Five from 19:30 (Channel 105/855)
Fulham v FC Basel - UEFA Europa League Group E - ITV4 from 20:00 (Channel 117)

Ties to be played on Thursday October 1.

Info from livefootballontv.com.

ESPN seemingly have the best games there, I may well watch them both.

Media Boy UK 22-09-2009 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34876784)
ESPN seemingly have the best games there, I may well watch them both.

ITV4 will show the Werder Bremen game from 5.30pm.

Info from LJ Sport on TV web site.

JdNthLdn 22-09-2009 22:39

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There was also a red button on Bravo today however not much on it.

Stephen 22-09-2009 23:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JdNthLdn (Post 34876830)
There was also a red button on Bravo today however not much on it.

Yes Bravo and the living channels now have an extra way of accessing the on Demand sections through the Red button and not just the On Demand menu.

Felim_Doyle 24-09-2009 11:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34876498)
Nope only sky as it has the biggest customer base, that is why channel wilkl not go exculsive to virgin etc, i know itv done it but that was a agreemetn with freesat so they could gain some numbers. if a channel wants to launcht they need ot be on sky for advertising reasons.

livign wont launch on freesat or freeview it ecrpted channel

I take your point about Living not launching on FreeSat or FreeView, I guess I was thinking of Virgin1.

I don't take your point about Sky though ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 34876772)
Hey i have just noticed this reply from virgin on twitter in regards to living hd launch :

virginmedia: @Sharpy55 Shouldn't be long at all - they are almost ready. You can be sure it'll be on VM first :)

so by this they are not waiting for sky ?

and also have to say very good news about top gear going to be shown in hd .

... and that would seem to support my theory.

There must be a more fundamental reason for the delayed launch. It could be technical, it could be advertising contracts but we don't like to speculate in this thread. :rolleyes:

Soon come, man! Soon come! :cool:

devilincarnate 24-09-2009 15:07

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Living hd to launch on the 6th oct as it says on the placeholder on the channel !

kgollop 24-09-2009 17:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 34877764)
Living hd to launch on the 6th oct as it says on the placeholder on the channel !

Good news, nice to have an official date for this now :)

Felim_Doyle 24-09-2009 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 34877764)
Living hd to launch on the 6th oct as it says on the placeholder on the channel !

I don't suppose that there is a placeholder channel on Sky yet? Not that we down to earth (or under the earth) cable folk care what goes on in orbit! :p:

I really must get a V+ box, even if I don't get a HD TV just yet.

devilincarnate 24-09-2009 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 34877884)
I don't suppose that there is a placeholder channel on Sky yet? Not that we down to earth (or under the earth) cable folk care what goes on in orbit! :p:

I really must get a V+ box, even if I don't get a HD TV just yet.

No not yet as i have been able to find out ? but do not know if one is testing ( it does not say on wikipedia that one is testing yet ):D

Ben B 24-09-2009 20:21

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I heard a rumour that VM are bringing out some deal next month which is going to blow sky out of the water. Has anyone else heard this?

devilincarnate 24-09-2009 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 34877983)
I heard a rumour that VM are bringing out some deal next month which is going to blow sky out of the water. Has anyone else heard this?

No not heard about this but this could be the other part that media boy was on about ? I wonder what it could be ?:confused:

Pster72 25-09-2009 13:32

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Do you think it could be something involving Disney as there seems to be deals appearing involving them such as ESPN and Video content just a thought

Andrewcrawford23 25-09-2009 14:06

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It coudl involve launch of living hd on 6th ocotber officla confirme dnow ;)

Media Boy UK 25-09-2009 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34878454)
It coudl involve launch of living hd on 6th ocotber officla confirme dnow ;)

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...485&highlight=

Media Boy UK 25-09-2009 19:01

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Non Virgin Media news: Discovery to launch ''Quest'' on Sky Digital.

http://mediaboydigitaltvnews.blogspo...st-on-sky.html

call08 25-09-2009 20:05

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Living HD assumed 75% of 24/7 schedule will be in HD. thts how much hd content acording to sky

Hiroki 25-09-2009 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34878454)
It coudl involve launch of living hd on 6th ocotber officla confirme dnow ;)

You actually think living hd is enough to blow sky out of the water tho?

gadge 25-09-2009 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by call08 (Post 34878702)
Living HD assumed 75% of 24/7 schedule will be in HD. thts how much hd content acording to sky

Source?.No point putting it on if you have no source to back it up.

---------- Post added at 20:11 ---------- Previous post was at 20:10 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34878663)
Non Virgin Media news: Discovery to launch ''Quest'' on Sky Digital.

http://mediaboydigitaltvnews.blogspo...st-on-sky.html

Wonder if it will launch on freesat.

call08 25-09-2009 21:14

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http://hd.sky.com/hd-providers-guide/hd-tv-comparison and scroll to the botton read the small writting 12. Monthly average based on BBC HD, FX HD, MTVNHD, National Geographic HD Jun08 - May09 (excluding BBC HD Preview). Living HD assumed 75% of 24/7 schedule will be in HD.

Andrewcrawford23 25-09-2009 21:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 34878724)
You actually think living hd is enough to blow sky out of the water tho?

i wasnt talkign about that i wasa talking about the news about virgin was goign to annouce on tv i am saying that could be part of it or that could be it

gadge 25-09-2009 21:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by call08 (Post 34878752)
http://hd.sky.com/hd-providers-guide/hd-tv-comparison and scroll to the botton read the small writting 12. Monthly average based on BBC HD, FX HD, MTVNHD, National Geographic HD Jun08 - May09 (excluding BBC HD Preview). Living HD assumed 75% of 24/7 schedule will be in HD.

Thats only an assumption.So its not set in stone.

call08 25-09-2009 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 34878768)
Thats only an assumption.

yes i know that

gadge 25-09-2009 21:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by call08 (Post 34878769)
yes i know that

Its the usual sky ploy to knock a channel before its even launched.:D

Hiroki 25-09-2009 22:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34878762)
i wasnt talkign about that i wasa talking about the news about virgin was goign to annouce on tv i am saying that could be part of it or that could be it

Now I get you :D

Media Boy UK 27-09-2009 19:45

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Setanta Sports UK fall out: BBC Wales to broadcast Finland v Wales live.

BBC Wales has won the rights to the World Cup Qualifier on October 10th.

http://footballonvirgintv.blogspot.c...world-cup.html

Media Boy UK 28-09-2009 15:58

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List on post one will be updated soon - Sent from my end.

This week list of Football games live on Virgin now online - see http://footballonvirgintv.blogspot.c...s-week_28.html

---------- Post added at 14:58 ---------- Previous post was at 13:04 ----------

Media Boy news update:

From Thursday if you are from the following areas:

Basildon, Birmingham/Small Heath. Grimsby, Hemel Hempstead, Norwich, South London/Croydon, Sussex (Brighton), Thames Valley (Reading), Warwick.

Your area will become an Digital Cable only area and you will also lose Teletext on your local BBC, ITV1, Channel 4 and Five (Virgin Channels 101 - 105.)

Media Boy UK 28-09-2009 20:57

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This week list update now online - see post one.

---------- Post added at 19:57 ---------- Previous post was at 19:02 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34879601)
Setanta Sports UK fall out: BBC Wales to broadcast Finland v Wales live.

BBC Wales has won the rights to the World Cup Qualifier on October 10th.

http://footballonvirgintv.blogspot.c...world-cup.html

Update:

Live football on tv says that viewers outside Wales can view this game.

It will also be on BBC Red Button.

Media Boy UK 29-09-2009 18:59

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LIVING HD Test shows in HD off our channel lineup.

I have seen information that Living are now broadcasting in HD off the EPG on an test channel called ''LHD TEST''.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4256/livinghd.jpg

Nook29 29-09-2009 21:46

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ESPN to show NBA

zantarous 29-09-2009 22:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34880819)

I really hope that is not where the DOG will be left, this is a HD channel no need for 4:3 safe area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34880917)

Great news.

Media Boy UK 29-09-2009 23:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34880819)
LIVING HD Test shows in HD off our channel lineup.

I have seen information that Living are now broadcasting in HD off the EPG on an test channel called ''LHD TEST''.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4256/livinghd.jpg

More info on my blog: http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com...ting-test.html

tjay2 30-09-2009 17:07

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In response to the 'ESPN to show NBA'

This is just the NBA Live game from the o2 which is why ESPN probably got the rights?!

I dont think ESPN have any rights to the normal NBA season from the states - if they get it absolutely amazing!!! I know they managed to get rights to show some of the playoff games and i guess they might do this again rather than show the whole season

Nook29 30-09-2009 17:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tjay2 (Post 34881430)
In response to the 'ESPN to show NBA'

This is just the NBA Live game from the o2 which is why ESPN probably got the rights?!

I dont think ESPN have any rights to the normal NBA season from the states - if they get it absolutely amazing!!! I know they managed to get rights to show some of the playoff games and i guess they might do this again rather than show the whole season

Hopefully it'll all become clear soon.

devilincarnate 30-09-2009 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tjay2 (Post 34881430)
In response to the 'ESPN to show NBA'

This is just the NBA Live game from the o2 which is why ESPN probably got the rights?!

I dont think ESPN have any rights to the normal NBA season from the states - if they get it absolutely amazing!!! I know they managed to get rights to show some of the playoff games and i guess they might do this again rather than show the whole season

Try this and they have got rights to games from the season and also in HD!

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...ghts-deal.html

tjay2 30-09-2009 18:15

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cheers develincarnate!

I would say thats amazing news! especially for us NBA fans :-)

akki007 30-09-2009 22:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tjay2 (Post 34881487)
cheers develincarnate!

I would say thats amazing news! especially for us NBA fans :-)

Basketball? Has the world gone mad?

KenK 30-09-2009 22:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akki007 (Post 34881620)
... Has the world gone mad?

Yes, a long, long time ago! :D

Horizon 01-10-2009 10:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34872233)
The "Zone" channels are to be rebranded by CBS in a joint venture between CBS and Chello Media:

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/i...005560.article

So, goodbye Zone Horror and hello CBS Horror??

The CBS branded channels launch on the 16th November.

Zone Reality becomes CBS Reality but Zone Horror remains unchanged for now.

The other Zone channels, which are not available on cable, are also launching with Zone Romantica becoming CBS Drama and Zone Thriller becoming CBS Action. It's unknown whether these will come to cable, but I expect VM will pick them up post analogue switchoff.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/i...006298.article

Media Boy UK 01-10-2009 17:29

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ESPN to show Russia VS Germany.

On October 10th ESPN will broadcast LIVE Russia VS Germany (Kick off 4pm).

Mobes 01-10-2009 17:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
No more BIG TV ANNOUNCEMENT news??

busboy125 01-10-2009 18:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34880917)

This is what is says on ESPN website in the "Sports on ESPN" page:

American sports fans can watch unrivalled live and exclusive coverage of the best sporting action from North America. Enjoy authentic season-long coverage from the best leagues including National Basketball Association (NBA), Major League Baseball (MLB), National Hockey League (NHL) and NCAA College Football and NCAA College Basketball.

The NBA is live on ESPN, every Wednesday and Friday from midnight, starting Wednesday 28th October. Every team is covered, with 100 live games including The Finals, plus ESPN's news and highlights show 'NBA Fastbreak'.

Brilliant News!

Andrewcrawford23 01-10-2009 19:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34882026)
No more BIG TV ANNOUNCEMENT news??

no one know what it was or is, it could have been the disney deal which in all fairness is quite big because there the first to sign up a deal for more than oen platform delivery type, might nto be big to us but it is big in the context to which it is.

RAY.MASSEY 01-10-2009 20:45

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Hi, can someone tell where ITV1+1 as i hard it was starting today ? have move it to a new date , and when are we going to get the ITV PLAYER by the red button?

Andrewcrawford23 01-10-2009 20:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RAY.MASSEY (Post 34882147)
Hi, can someone tell where ITV1+1 as i hard it was starting today ? have move it to a new date , and when are we going to get the ITV PLAYER by the red button?

it was never confirmed for launch, and certianyl was never confirmed for virgin

we willg etit whenever itv make it available but you can still get it

nn012 01-10-2009 20:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
ITV1+1 should be on 113 if it launches. It's showing on 113 in the channel list in eng. menu on my Samsung V+.

scorpionatthepc 01-10-2009 21:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 34882158)
ITV1+1 should be on 113 if it launches. It's showing on 113 in the channel list in eng. menu on my Samsung V+.

Really? Not showing here in north west on my v+box SA type.

cllp1975 01-10-2009 22:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
It's been postponed indefinitely....

Andrewcrawford23 01-10-2009 23:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 34882158)
ITV1+1 should be on 113 if it launches. It's showing on 113 in the channel list in eng. menu on my Samsung V+.

you sure? becaus ei jsut checked the engingeer menu and it not there

piquet41 01-10-2009 23:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34881793)
The CBS branded channels launch on the 16th November.

Zone Reality becomes CBS Reality but Zone Horror remains unchanged for now.

The other Zone channels, which are not available on cable, are also launching with Zone Romantica becoming CBS Drama and Zone Thriller becoming CBS Action. It's unknown whether these will come to cable, but I expect VM will pick them up post analogue switchoff.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/i...006298.article


These indeed WILL be coming to VM;

Quote: The November 16 arrival of CBS Action, CBS Reality and CBS Drama on UK digital television will mark the first time that a branded CBS channel has ventured outside the US, reports Broadcast Now.

For the launch, Chellomedia has freed up six of its existing channels on Sky, Virgin Media and Freesat via its Chello Zone international broadcasting arm. Unquote.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...-channels.html

Media Boy UK 02-10-2009 13:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34882229)
you sure? becaus ei jsut checked the engingeer menu and it not there

But Andrew we are in Scotland, ITV1 +1 is only set to broadcast in England and Wales.

But I think Virgin may add BBC ALBA to channel 113 in Scotland.

---------- Post added at 12:24 ---------- Previous post was at 10:42 ----------

Setanta Sports UK fall out: More World Cup games resold.

October 14th's games with Wales and Northern Ireland playing in them has today been resold. After Setanta Sports UK closedown in June.

http://footballonvirgintv.blogspot.c...es-resold.html

braysoj1 02-10-2009 13:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
any news on the England game sir media boy


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