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Paul 11-09-2020 21:20

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36049605)
You seem hell bent on punishing and blaming young people and young people only.

... and your obsession is getting quite tiresome, move on. :sleep:

Kushan 11-09-2020 21:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
Sorry Paul, but maybe you should ask those ragging and blaming on young people to knock it off instead.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36049624)
I'm sure there was a bit of tongue in cheek there......;)l

I'm sure from Carth it was, but unfortunately these "back in my day" arguments are made without a hint of irony by plenty of people. The whole "avocado toast and iphones" has become a meme at this point.

Carth 11-09-2020 22:47

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some was tongue in cheek, some not.

I do actually feel sorry for the 'lifestyle' of todays youngsters. Almost every aspect of their life is laid bare and open to scrutiny through that marvelous technology called the internet. I doubt there are any who don't have a presence on the major social websites, and it's all good fun . . until it suddenly isn't, and you can't rub out that little error of judgement that may follow you for years.

Progress is wonderful, without it we'd still be using the horse & cart, wood fires & candles, but it comes at a price. Machinery, computers & automation that improves production but reduces jobs. Medical advances that ensure longer life and reduced infant death rates, which means growing populations needing more housing.

No jobs, no housing, but a steady rise in mental health issues . . . I meant it when I said I miss the old days and the 'freedom' we had.

Kushan 11-09-2020 23:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
You're right carth, those are very real problems faced by today's generation. I know the topic will go down like a lead balloon on this forum, but it's one of the reasons we need to seriously consider the Universal Basic Income.

At some point, machines are going to automate people out of jobs and it's going to be cheaper to just get a machine to do it. We need to be prepared for that.

If people were on a UBI, then the pandemic would have wrecked a lot fewer people's lives as their income wouldn't have been affected.

Of course, it's a radical proposal and there's always the topic of "well who's going to pay for it?" and I'd propose those super-rich tech companies that are putting people out of a job start by paying their fare share of tax, then we'll see where we are.

I say this all as someone who has a lot of job security at one of those tech companies.

1andrew1 11-09-2020 23:18

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36049660)
Some was tongue in cheek, some not.

I do actually feel sorry for the 'lifestyle' of todays youngsters. Almost every aspect of their life is laid bare and open to scrutiny through that marvelous technology called the internet. I doubt there are any who don't have a presence on the major social websites, and it's all good fun . . until it suddenly isn't, and you can't rub out that little error of judgement that may follow you for years.

Progress is wonderful, without it we'd still be using the horse & cart, wood fires & candles, but it comes at a price. Machinery, computers & automation that improves production but reduces jobs. Medical advances that ensure longer life and reduced infant death rates, which means growing populations needing more housing.

No jobs, no housing, but a steady rise in mental health issues . . . I meant it when I said I miss the old days and the 'freedom' we had.

Great post. :tu:

Maggy 11-09-2020 23:25

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36049586)
i don't think any generation has been/or is worse off than the generation preceding it.

You can think that but it's not necessarily true.

Carth 11-09-2020 23:35

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36049586)
i don't think any generation has been/or is worse off than the generation preceding it.

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36049665)
You can think that but it's not necessarily true.

It does make you wonder just how many decades the phrase "ee when I were a lad" has been uttered :D

Paul 11-09-2020 23:45

Re: Coronavirus
 
This has nothing to do with the virus, back on topic people.

Sephiroth 12-09-2020 09:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36049621)
I was born 1954, my 'teenage' years were much better than those born in the late 1990's - early 2000's.

We didn't have to worry about not having the latest iPhone, we weren't bewildered and confused by having 300 channels of crap on the TV, the music we listened to was usually performed by people who could sing and/or play instruments without the need for technology to make them sound decent, comedians were actually funny, mums used washpowders that got your clothes clean - in machines that used hot water, boys were boys and girls were girls with very few confused about that, education meant using a brain along with books and pen & paper, food was mainly bought fresh from corner shops and tasted great when cooked, playing and socializing was done with real people not pixels on a screen, getting drunk only took 4 pints, masks were something Batman & The Lone Ranger wore, and one of our biggest fears was mum finding grass stains on the knees of our trousers.

I miss those days :D

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mums used washpowders that got your clothes clean - in machines that used hot water
We still do - connecting stuff to the hot water pipe.

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one of our biggest fears was mum finding grass stains on the knees of our trousers
There were better options available!

And, no Coronavirus yet.



Maggy 12-09-2020 12:19

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36049678)


We still do - connecting stuff to the hot water pipe.



There were better options available!

And, no Coronavirus yet.



The comment about Coronavirus doesn't really make this post on topic so please everyone get back on topic.

1andrew1 12-09-2020 19:40

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some good but not unexpected news - Oxford trial has resumed ;)
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...fects-12069919

jfman 13-09-2020 00:26

Re: Coronavirus
 
We should pay young people who catch Coronavirus a reward for doing so. Herd immunity, after all...

1andrew1 13-09-2020 00:35

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049802)
We should pay young people who catch Coronavirus a reward for doing so. Herd immunity, after all...

:D:D:D

Maggy 13-09-2020 09:52

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049802)
We should pay young people who catch Coronavirus a reward for doing so. Herd immunity, after all...

Yes and watch them take it home to granny,aunty and everyone vulnerable at home. You be a guinea pig if you like. Keep me out of it.

jfman 13-09-2020 10:21

Re: Coronavirus
 
It wasn’t a serious suggestion. We all, or almost all, know herd immunity is a bad idea and doesn’t protect the economy.


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