Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36049575)

Punishing different age groups differently is basically giving a free pass for other age groups to act less responsibly. If you feel people aren't being discouraged enough, that's fine and I agree because far too many people aren't taking things seriously, but punish everyone that's flouting the law equally.

This isn't an age issue, it's an issue that affects everyone and everyone needs to be on board with it.

There's another side to the statistics as well - correlation is not causation. More young people are being infected, that is true and I have no doubt that a proportion of that, even a significant proportion, is people going out drinking and partying - but that doesn't necessarily mean they're breaking the law, refusing to wear masks or not respecting social distancing. You can do everything "right" and still get infected. A large proportion of frontline workers are young people, that also skews the statistics greatly as well. You don't often find retired people working the checkouts.

We eased restrictions, opened pubs and encouraged people to go out, eat out to help out, etc. and suddenly we've had a rise in cases. If you want to look for someone to blame, blame the government. If you want to look for a group to blame, blame the group that refuses to wear a mask, or spreads stupid conspiracy theories - and those groups span all ages, all demographics.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36049577)

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36049577)

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36049562)

What's your obsession with punishing younger people? Covid doesn't care what age you are, if you spread it, you spread it. Fine anyone not social distancing or wearing a mask. If you really want to punish the younger folk, take solace in the fact that they have a much lower quality of life than the 50-65 group had when they were younger.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54116939 R is above 1 again.

Here comes second lockdown.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36049579)

Really, and you know this, how?

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049550)

These are inevitable really, although by the time they come out in the figures it’ll be too late. Cases doubling every 8 days, R definitely above one. Steps need to be taken to slow the spread, and stop it spreading into the most at risk groups. Or it’s lockdown 2. Boris has as much said we are buying time until Operation Moonshot is up to speed.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36049582)

Just make wearing mask mandatory, no mask no entry in to any building.


Some idiot suggested that a face mask causes a build up of CO2:p:.


Despite the fact a NHS doctor wore a medical spec mask and a O2 reader and his levels did not move.

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36049578)

Offenders can infect anyone - true.

Only young people are offenders - false.



Why do you keep turning this into a personal argument?

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049581)

Economic data.

There’s plenty of data out there to show that younger people today have less employment opportunities, are saddled with more debt, more likely to stay at home with parents for longer and are further from the housing market than previous generations.

Of course the bitterness that the older generation have means many will not see that and blame eating avocado, and lattes. They live to deny progression for those that fame after them.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049581)

Economic data.

There’s plenty of data out there to show that younger people today have less employment opportunities, are saddled with more debt, more likely to stay at home with parents for longer and are further from the housing market than previous generations.

Of course the bitterness that the older generation have means many will not see that and blame eating avocado, and lattes. They live to deny progression for those that fame after them.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049563)

It might take longer than you’d expect. If the “I had Covid in January brigade” are right - we of course don’t know as there was no testing, and hasn’t been antibody testing - hospitalisations followed much further down the road.

Unless of course “I think I had Covid in January” was simply a misinformation exercise to reassure people that it wasn’t so bad.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049583)

The misinformation around masks is ridiculous. It costs next to nothing, takes little effort and has some effect.

No it’s not a silver bullet. But we don’t have one of those, that doesn’t mean masks isn’t progress.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36049588)

I'm all for mandatory masks indoors (except eateries and pubs)

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36049588)

I'm all for mandatory masks indoors (except eateries and pubs)

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36049594)

Either masks are needed indoors or they're not. If you absolutely need to eat or drink then either do it away from others, or do it quickly and put your mask back in place. The idiotic exceptions highlight the contradictions.
Anything that is classed as being "safe", has to be safe to such a high level, as otherwise more people will do that activity, more often, meaning any "safety" gain is completely lost.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049596)

Again it’s 100% or nothing from nomadking.