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OLD BOY 09-08-2023 20:06

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36158192)
Which specific EU legislation are we still encumbered by?

That’s been answered more than once before. Try the GDPR, Acquired Rights Directive, Working Time Directive, Agency Workers Directive just for starters. Did you not appreciate how bureaucratic the EU is? You should try setting up and running a business. Nightmare!

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ness-taskforce

Hugh 09-08-2023 20:56

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Fatherless EU laws protecting the employees’ rights and not letting multi-national corporations do what they want with our personal data…

I’ve never understood the whining about Working Time Directive - if employees want to work longer hours, they can just opt out; what the employer can’t do is make them work those hours without agreement.

Pierre 09-08-2023 22:31

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36158214)
The fact that 7 years later you are still misrepresenting the truth

Really? Me? Like what exactly?

TheDaddy 10-08-2023 14:42

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36158214)
The fact that 7 years later you are still misrepresenting the truth probably pisses off more people than just me. People voted out for a whole set of reasons and many did not do any research at all before voting. Some just believed the lies they were told.

Like this splendid chap:

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/brexi...-house-2508493

They did, we had people on here who thought they were voting to leave the echr and as a protest and they're just two of the knuckle heads I remember and there were others even amongst our small sample pool

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36158220)
That’s been answered more than once before. Try the GDPR, Acquired Rights Directive, Working Time Directive, Agency Workers Directive just for starters. Did you not appreciate how bureaucratic the EU is? You should try setting up and running a business. Nightmare!

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ness-taskforce

People aren't so stupid that they don't realise a cut in regulations means a cut to their rights and protections and aren't in their best interests it's the same with tax cuts, they're not meant for the little people

jfman 10-08-2023 14:47

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36158220)
That’s been answered more than once before. Try the GDPR, Acquired Rights Directive, Working Time Directive, Agency Workers Directive just for starters. Did you not appreciate how bureaucratic the EU is? You should try setting up and running a business. Nightmare!

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ness-taskforce

Pray, tell, OB how much experience do you have setting up a business?

OLD BOY 10-08-2023 17:45

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36158263)
Pray, tell, OB how much experience do you have setting up a business?

Did you read the link? Do you really not appreciate how much bureaucracy surrounds EU laws?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36158261)
People aren't so stupid that they don't realise a cut in regulations means a cut to their rights and protections and aren't in their best interests it's the same with tax cuts, they're not meant for the little people

As mentioned more than once before, the rights of UK citizens can still be protected, but in a less bureaucratic way.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36158224)
Fatherless EU laws protecting the employees’ rights and not letting multi-national corporations do what they want with our personal data…

I’ve never understood the whining about Working Time Directive - if employees want to work longer hours, they can just opt out; what the employer can’t do is make them work those hours without agreement.

Because if you read it, the Working Time Regulations goes beyond just the 48 hour week.

Hugh 10-08-2023 18:07

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
I have read it (many times in the past, having run large teams/departments) - can you give examples of what the actual problems are (besides your stock answer of "too bureaucratic")?

These all look eminently sensible to me…

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the maximum weekly working hours, and how someone can work more hours if they choose

rest during the working day, week and year

young workers' maximum working hours and rest breaks

night work

special arrangements when there's an emergency or if someone is not able to take their rest

holiday entitlement
https://www.acas.org.uk/working-time-rules

TheDaddy 10-08-2023 19:50

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36158282)
Did you read the link? Do you really not appreciate how much bureaucracy surrounds EU laws?

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As mentioned more than once before, the rights of UK citizens can still be protected, but in a less bureaucratic way.

---------- Post added at 17:45 ---------- Previous post was at 17:44 ----------



Because if you read it, the Working Time Regulations goes beyond just the 48 hour week.

Call me a mad old fool but I'm not interested in can where my conditions and rights are concerned, I'd like the new plan set out before the old one is surrendered, we've been here before with trusting to hope and we held all the cards then too

OLD BOY 11-08-2023 00:18

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36158290)
I have read it (many times in the past, having run large teams/departments) - can you give examples of what the actual problems are (besides your stock answer of "too bureaucratic")?

These all look eminently sensible to me…



https://www.acas.org.uk/working-time-rules

Jesus, how many times have we been through this before? You are playing games.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36158299)
Call me a mad old fool but I'm not interested in can where my conditions and rights are concerned, I'd like the new plan set out before the old one is surrendered, we've been here before with trusting to hope and we held all the cards then too

And that is a fair point. The government needs to get on with it to prove the doubters wrong.

Hugh 11-08-2023 00:26

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36158320)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
I have read it (many times in the past, having run large teams/departments) - can you give examples of what the actual problems are (besides your stock answer of "too bureaucratic")?

These all look eminently sensible to me…



https://www.acas.org.uk/working-time-rules
Jesus, how many times have we been through this before? You are playing games.

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And that is a fair point. The government needs to get on with it to prove the doubters wrong.

That’s a "no", then…

Here’s a handy hint - if you’ve answered it before, why not just link to those posts?

jfman 11-08-2023 06:27

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36158322)
That’s a "no", then…

Similar to my question about his experience running a business.

GrimUpNorth 11-08-2023 08:30

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36158322)
That’s a "no", then…

Here’s a handy hint - if you’ve answered it before, why not just link to those posts?

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36158324)
Similar to my question about his experience running a business.

I seem to remember OB once letting slip he worked for the council.

Wonder if he walked to work, put his sandwiches in a Sunblest bag and if the children called him Bogie?

Hugh 11-08-2023 09:09

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Careful - He takes no lip off nobody…

Pierre 11-08-2023 09:52

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36158330)
Careful - He takes no lip off nobody…

I get the reference.

ianch99 11-08-2023 10:39

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36158334)
I get the reference.

Said with Dignity :D


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