Cable Forum - Coronavirus (OLD)

I'll try and help move this debate forwards. My understanding is that no one on the forum has found any scientists supporting Old Boy's assertion and the OP appears not to have done so yet either.

However, Julian did kindly unearth a maths professor in Bristol whose model suggested Britain's infection rate peaked on 18th March which the Daily Mail said threw into question whether Britain's lockdown on 23rd March was necessary.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-lockdown.html

Thanks for this - Prof Wood’s paper

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suggests that infections were in decline before UK lockdown, and that infections in Sweden started to decline only a short time later.

Here is the Swedish infection rate for that time, and after - it appears to increasing...

Here is another scientist’s view of Prof Wood’s paper.

https://lbndaily.co.uk/uk-coronaviru...own-necessary/

Sephiroth

10-09-2020 16:07

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049407)

It doesn’t. We’d have had more deaths had we not locked down, and could have saved lives by locking down sooner. This is science. You are simply speculating with no basis or evidence whatsoever.

I think that with the benefit of hindsight, lock-down bought time, especially for the NHS, while the boffins were able to work on cures/treatments to reduce deaths.

Also had we not locked down, the vulnerable people would have had seriously higher death numbers.

1andrew1

10-09-2020 16:55

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36049416)

were they on the graph shown?

Hom3r

10-09-2020 19:35

Re: Coronavirus

In June 2019 the UK consumed £5 millions worth of Tea, Coffee & biscuits.

In June 2020 during lockdown this rose to £19 million.

Thats a lot of tea breaks

pip08456

10-09-2020 20:22

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36049433)

Thanks for this - Prof Wood’s paper

Here is the Swedish infection rate for that time, and after - it appears to increasing...

Here is another scientist’s view of Prof Wood’s paper.

https://lbndaily.co.uk/uk-coronaviru...own-necessary/

Oh, look what happened about 3 hrs ago.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1599765702

Hugh	10-09-2020 20:45

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????

I was referring to the time period March to June - as Prof Wood was in his paper.

What’s your point?

Oh, look what happened about 4 hrs ago.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1599768228

Pierre

10-09-2020 21:31

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36049482)

Yeah. That’s annoying, I’m going to play golf there in 4 weeks. But, whatever, I’ll still be going no matter.

Damien

10-09-2020 22:59

Re: Coronavirus

Be aware the 14 day isolation is worse than the lockdown in terms of what you're allowed to do.

Pierre

10-09-2020 23:56

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36049495)

Be aware the 14 day isolation is worse than the lockdown in terms of what you're allowed to do.

Yeah, I’m sure it will be policed very stringently.

1andrew1

11-09-2020 09:00

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36049433)

Looks like Professor Wood is ploughing a lonely furrow. ;)

Sephiroth

11-09-2020 09:05

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36049500)

Looks like Professor Wood is ploughing a lonely fallow. ;)

"fallow", eh?

1andrew1

11-09-2020 09:29

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36049501)

"fallow", eh?

Oops, thanks, corrected, an over-enthusiastic spell-checker! A fallow furrow. ;)

Meanwhile - was pleased to read this.

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AstraZeneca’s coronavirus vaccine could still be available by the end of the year, or early next year, according to the company’s chief executive, Pascal Soriot, despite clinical trials being paused after a volunteer fell ill.

AstraZeneca and Oxford University, which are jointly developing the vaccine and testing it on 50,000 to 60,000 people around the world, halted trials on Wednesday to investigate the “potentially unexpected illness” of one participant.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...razeneca-chief

Maggy

11-09-2020 10:10

Re: Coronavirus

After listening to the litany of changes of lockdown in the UK on the BBC I'm completely confused.I'm wondering how many others are.

Pierre

11-09-2020 11:07

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36049512)

After listening to the litany of changes of lockdown in the UK on the BBC I'm completely confused.I'm wondering how many others are.

i don't think it's confusing, just irritating