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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35976299)

Those wanting a second referendum better be 100% sure, because if they think they’re going to walk it, like they did 2016, and get another bloody nose that’ll be the end of it.

Yeah I don't think a second referendum is a slam dunk at all for Remain. The advantage it'll have is I suspect the youth turnout will be a lot higher. It was higher for the General Election and it's unlikely they'll be so apathetic this time. Corbyn himself I think is partly succeeding because young people are angry.

But on the other hand the act of calling the referendum itself might spark a reaction. The Vote Leave people are think of 'Tell them again' as a slogan by some polling that's been seen and will lean heavily into the story of their vote being ignored by the 'elite'.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35976313)

yes they did why you think vast majority of parliament is remain supporting who put them there the people

Like mp Anna Soubry mp for Broxtow

the people of broxtow voted 45.4% remain and 54.6% leave in the referendum
she has never accepted the result in fact she's gone out of her way to overturn it .

@Damien - you say that the “young people are angry”. And here’s the problem: young people get angry at that age about matters that wouldn’t trouble them later, in particular when they are wiser and less altruistic.

Anyway, there was a referendum in 2016 and the result was clear. LEAVE. But some of the losers want to upstage that decision and I find that to be undemocratic.

As to the parliamentarians, I wish a pox upon them, particularly Labour for being totally unhelpful to the nation in their own political interest.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35976356)

Like mp Anna Soubry mp for Broxtow

the people of broxtow voted 45.4% remain and 54.6% leave in the referendum
she has never accepted the result in fact she's gone out of her way to overturn it .

.... and she needs speaking to.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35976357)

If anyone can catch her when she's sober.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35976359)

If anyone can catch her when she's sober.

Not like this l am sure you would agree..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...porters-hitler

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35976357)

@Damien - you say that the “young people are angry”. And here’s the problem: young people get angry at that age about matters that wouldn’t trouble them later, in particular when they are wiser and less altruistic.

Anyway, there was a referendum in 2016 and the result was clear. LEAVE. But some of the losers want to upstage that decision and I find that to be undemocratic.

As to the parliamentarians, I wish a pox upon them, particularly Labour for being totally unhelpful to the nation in their own political interest.

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.... and she needs speaking to.

You may wish to look up "condescending" in the dictionary...

Getting older does not necessarily equate with getting wiser - some people are fixed in their views, and nothing will change their mindset; people get wiser by learning more, not by getting older.

Not all older people are "less altruistic", aka "more selfish", and I know many of my age group that are angry/passionate about matters affecting this country; perhaps you are conditioned/influenced by those you mix/socialise with.

It getting silly now:

Change diet to cope with food delays after no-deal Brexit, Britons told

(paywall)

https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-ma...,-retail-surge

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Officials are planning to tell Britons to change what they eat in the event of a chaotic Brexit because Whitehall predicts that some sources of fresh food from European Union countries would be cut off. The government has begun detailed planning on food supplies if Britain leaves without a deal and has identified a number of sites for massive hangars to stockpile food, including one near Carlisle and others in Scotland and on the south coast. - The Times

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35976360)

Not like this l am sure you would agree..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...porters-hitler

The problem is that Brexit has emboldened the racists and facists among us and this is the result.

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Someone who seemed to be holding the camera asked Soubry why she backs a second Brexit referendum, adding: “But we already had a vote. You lost the people’s vote. You are a traitor. You are a traitor to this country. You are on the side of Adolf Hitler.”

A protester called James Goddard, seen at a number of similar protests around Westminster in recent days, appeared to subsequently identify himself as the person shouting the abuse.

When Soubry tweeted that the protesters had expressed support for Hitler, Goddard replied to say: “Lying trollop, I personally told you that you’re doing the dirty work of Adolf Hitler, you morally repugnant *******.”

Goddard regularly broadcasts live video to his Facebook page, and solicits donations via Paypal. He has been seen at other protests, including the brief blockade of Westminster Bridge.

He has also been identified as a man who gave a speech at a rally in the summer supporting the then-jailed far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, who styles himself Tommy Robinson.

Goddard has also posted anti-Muslim messages on the social media site Gab, which is popular with far-right users. In one message he said, “wherever Islam exists you will find murder and rape”. Another calls for mass deportations of “illegals”, saying: “It’s about time the indigenous people of Great Britain were put first.”

The group Hope Not Hate, which monitors far-right activity, said such messages showed Goddard was “a vile racist yob, pure and simple”.

Goddard has also discussed in a tweet harassing the BBC’s political editor, Laura Kuenssberg, and another journalist.

On Monday, a group of yellow jacket-wearing protesters shouted misogynist abuse at Sky anchor Kay Burley during a live TV broadcast, and yelled at the channel’s political editor, Faisal Islam, that he was “not British” and “a rapist”.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35976367)

It getting silly now:

Change diet to cope with food delays after no-deal Brexit, Britons told

(paywall)

https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-ma...,-retail-surge

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The problem is that Brexit has emboldened the racists and facists among us and this is the result.

Oh bugger, no more fish and chips.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35976367)

It getting silly now:

Change diet to cope with food delays after no-deal Brexit, Britons told

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Yes, the EU farmers will be cockahoop watching all their produce rot...................

They'll take it with good grace and understanding.

There’s not much point stockpiling fruit and veg in Scotland.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35976371)

There’s not much point stockpiling fruit and veg in Scotland.

I grew up on tinned fruit and veg .

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35976372)

I grew up on tinned fruit and veg .

You were lucky as it was eat whatever was put on the table and if you did not like it then one would have to go without.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35976374)

You were lucky as it was eat whatever was put on the table and if you did not like it then one would have to go without.

Remember those days well!:)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35976374)

You were lucky as it was eat whatever was put on the table and if you did not like it then one would have to go without.

fond memories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAdlkunflRs

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35976375)

Remember those days well!:)

Bread and dripping.:)

http://cookit.e2bn.org/historycookbo...-dripping.html