Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

The question was are "we" better off .. jeez. If you want to deny reality then I can't stop you. Seems a common theme for some in this day and age: "This is my reality and I'm sticking to it"

.. don't forget, don't look up :D

Who’s “we”?

Define “we”

Am I “better off” or “worse off”, no idea. I haven’t felt any economic pressures due to brexit. But that’s me. As it’s my personal experience and therefore subjective.

Sephiroth

04-08-2023 22:45

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I'm definitely better off. Through my own efforts. Brexit, Schmexit - it would have been the same for me.

Everyone - work hard and don't go on strike, which is counterproductive and gives the likes of Ian the meat and drink on which Remainers thrive.

jfman

04-08-2023 22:52

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Don’t strike, eat your gruel, lick boot as energy companies and banks trouser billions in profits.

Hugh	05-08-2023 00:01

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36157952)

Don’t strike, eat your gruel, lick boot as energy companies and banks trouser billions in profits.

"I’m all right, Jack*"

Solipsism in action…

*subjectively

TheDaddy

05-08-2023 03:50

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36157952)

Don’t strike, eat your gruel, lick boot as energy companies and banks trouser billions in profits.

Which was their plan all along, why people ever vote tory is beyond me, they're not the party of old and are only interested in the wealthy and making them and themselves richer

Sephiroth

05-08-2023 07:43

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36157956)

Which was their plan all along, why people ever vote tory is beyond me, they're not the party of old and are only interested in the wealthy and making them and themselves richer

There's no decent party at the moment. Labour is mad, with their VAT on private schools policy which will backfire big time when classes swell etc. The Lib Dems will tax the cars t buggery, - they already do that in the local authorities.

denphone

05-08-2023 07:50

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36157956)

Which was their plan all along, why people ever vote tory is beyond me, they're not the party of old and are only interested in the wealthy and making them and themselves richer

June 23, 2016, will go down as the day of the big lie and ever since the big lies have kept coming.

Sephiroth

05-08-2023 07:54

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36157958)

June 23, 2016, will go down as the day of the big lie and ever since the big lies have kept coming.

Gollox. The people spoke then and it's just that you didn't agree. They wanted out of the EU - as simple as that. We'd not be in a better state had we remained in the EU. Try to prove otherwise.

denphone

05-08-2023 08:16

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36157959)

Gollox. The people spoke then and it's just that you didn't agree. They wanted out of the EU - as simple as that. We'd not be in a better state had we remained in the EU. Try to prove otherwise.

l don't need to prove otherwise as events since then have proved it in spades.

Sephiroth

05-08-2023 08:45

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36157960)

l don't need to prove otherwise as events since then have proved it in spades.

You’re just a moaning Remainer. A bad government would have screwed everything up and it’s not on Brexit. It’s not unreasonable to ask what, had we remained in the EU, would have been so much better than the state we are now in.

denphone

05-08-2023 09:09

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36157961)

It says much about the weak paucity of your arguments that calling some members moaning remainers is practically all you have got left.

Sephiroth

05-08-2023 09:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36157962)

It says much about the weak paucity of your arguments that calling some members moaning remainers is practically all you have got left.

That’s the trouble with you Remainers. Everything that’s gone wrong is down to Brexit. The paucity of argument rests with you. What beneficial state would subsist in the UK had we remained in the EU? My position is that we’d be suffering from bad government just as now.

All you’re interested in doing is to deflect away from the question by dwelling on the sentiment I’m expressing about moaning Remainers.

We left the EU so that we could fully govern ourselves. That government has big time screwed up has nothing to do with Brexit.

Hugh	05-08-2023 10:00

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36157963)

That’s the trouble with you Remainers. Everything that’s gone wrong is down to Brexit. The paucity of argument rests with you. What beneficial state would subsist in the UK had we remained in the EU? My position is that we’d be suffering from bad government just as now.

All you’re interested in doing is to deflect away from the question by dwelling on the sentiment I’m expressing about moaning Remainers.

We left the EU so that we could fully govern ourselves. That government has big time screwed up has nothing to do with Brexit.

Except for the small, but extremely relevant fact, it was mostly the same people…

The people who promised the sunlit uphill lands couldn’t deliver what they promised - that’s what happens when you have an ill-defined, non-costed deliverable - everyone loses.

Pierre

05-08-2023 10:31

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Not sure I remember “sunlit uplands” being promised.

GrimUpNorth

05-08-2023 12:14

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36157965)

Not sure I remember “sunlit uplands” being promised.

I recall OB repeating it ad infinitum so it was probably on a briefing note from central office.

Edit: A quick Google found the Minister for The 18th. Century said it at the dispatch box. And here's a clip of him saying it https://youtu.be/OlR1R_vxBB8.

Hope that helps.

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