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1andrew1 10-09-2020 11:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36049379)
That age group might be pulling in the largest infections, but they're by no means the only ones spreading it. My generalisation isn't directed at a specific age group or demographic, just those that think they "know better", or "don't care about experts" or think wearing a mask is an attack on their human rights or anything like that.

Unfortunately, that group spans plenty of age groups.

Agreed. I was in Aberystwyth recently and the staff in Superdrug didn't even wear masks never mind the customers! And they sell masks too!

Carth 10-09-2020 11:07

Re: Coronavirus
 
I agree that every age group has its share of those who do what they want and sod the rest.

I sometimes wonder if these people are the very same ones that also drive at 40 in a 30 limit while using a mobile phone, steal your car for a 'fun filled' joyride at 3am, or hang around at school gates selling drugs, maybe even rent rooms in a run down 2 bed terrace to 18 migrants.

The I stop thinking, because there's thousands of em :(

Sephiroth 10-09-2020 11:11

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36049386)
I agree that every age group has its share of those who do what they want and sod the rest.

I sometimes wonder if these people are the very same ones that also drive at 40 in a 30 limit while using a mobile phone, steal your car for a 'fun filled' joyride at 3am, or hang around at school gates selling drugs, maybe even rent rooms in a run down 2 bed terrace to 18 migrants.

The I stop thinking, because there's thousands of em :(

No shit, Sherlock!

jfman 10-09-2020 11:14

Re: Coronavirus
 
See if you were going to design a herd immunity strategy and deploy it on the QT. It’d actually look a lot like this. Not saying that Dominic Cummings is pushing that... not at all.

We’ve encouraged young people back to pubs, schools back in and shortly colleges and universities go back.

Kushan 10-09-2020 11:24

Re: Coronavirus
 
Well it worked for Sweden, right? .....right?!

denphone 10-09-2020 11:28

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36049379)
That age group might be pulling in the largest infections, but they're by no means the only ones spreading it. My generalisation isn't directed at a specific age group or demographic, just those that think they "know better", or "don't care about experts" or think wearing a mask is an attack on their human rights or anything like that.

Unfortunately, that group spans plenty of age groups.

Indeed go to a lot of these busy tourist places and people of all ages are ignoring the clear Covid 19 guidelines.

pip08456 10-09-2020 12:22

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36049394)
Well it worked for Sweden, right? .....right?!

Sweden doesn't seem to have faired any worse than elsewhere in Europe except France.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1599736883

jfman 10-09-2020 12:26

Re: Coronavirus
 
Sweden had warning signs, along with it’s Scandinavian neighbours, that it didn’t heed. Comparing to Italy (hit first), France, Spain and our inept response isn’t something to be proud of for them.

pip08456 10-09-2020 12:37

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049404)
Sweden had warning signs, along with it’s Scandinavian neighbours, that it didn’t heed. Comparing to Italy (hit first), France, Spain and our inept response isn’t something to be proud of for them.

Perhaps not but it does show that lockdown made jack shit difference to number of deaths per million of population.

jfman 10-09-2020 12:39

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36049406)
Perhaps not but it does show that lockdown made jack shit difference to number of deaths per million of population.

It doesn’t. We’d have had more deaths had we not locked down, and could have saved lives by locking down sooner. This is science. You are simply speculating with no basis or evidence whatsoever.

Pierre 10-09-2020 13:04

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36049391)
See if you were going to design a herd immunity strategy and deploy it on the QT. It’d actually look a lot like this. Not saying that Dominic Cummings is pushing that... not at all.

We’ve encouraged young people back to pubs, schools back in and shortly colleges and universities go back.

Teenagers have not been socially distancing etc, ever. Certainly not around here.

I don' think they are trying to gain Herd immunity on the QT, but a rise in infections, on the demographic that can in the main shrug of the infection is a natural by product of reopening the country.

And is pretty much in line with what I posted several weeks ago, in so far as, those in vulnerable groups that need to shield, should shield. Those that are other wise young and healthy should just be allowed to go about their business, whilst ensuring they don't endanger anyone they know that is shielding.

The key metric will be seeing how hospital admission and death increase as a percentage of the infection rate. As long as those two key measures don't increase wildly, then no problem.

1andrew1 10-09-2020 13:05

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36049403)
Sweden doesn't seem to have faired any worse than elsewhere in Europe except France.

Europe is more than just five countries - what about Germany, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Norway etc?

Carth 10-09-2020 13:22

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36049414)
Europe is more than just five countries - what about Germany, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Norway etc?


were they on the graph shown?

Hugh 10-09-2020 14:18

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36049403)
Sweden doesn't seem to have faired any worse than elsewhere in Europe except France.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1599736883

Except France, Ireland, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Romania, Portugal, Germany, Denmark, Bulgaria, Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, and 14 other European countries - the only countries worse than Sweden are the U.K., Belgium, Spain, and Italy...

Hugh 10-09-2020 14:20

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36049416)
were they on the graph shown?

No, as it only showed the 5 out of the 6 countries with the worst death rate in Europe, and didn’t show the 25 with lesser death rates.


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