Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Yet when I last checked, Turkey and Mexico are not in the EU so this is a pretty useless anecdote for the Brexit thread :p:

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

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The EU is where most Brits travel to and holiday in. I'm in Bilbao, Spain. EEA nationals breezed through the e-gates, UK nationals had to queue up for manual inspection and stamping.

Anyway, happy holidays one and all.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Very nice! Hope you are "Basquing" in the sun where you are :D Don't tell anyone about the queues, they really don't exist do they? Wait until ETIAS & EES come along, that is when the real complaining will start.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Strange, I was in Bilbao last November and suffered no such problems prohibition must be a seasonal thing.

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They’re not, but if you view the EU as one homogeneous bloc, then it is only one destination out of hundreds. Preferential passport queues at certain airports in the EU, are in my experience, haphazard and certainly not a hill to die on.

I travel a lot, in and out of Europe, I’ve never faced a delay due to my passport. I accept that is subjective and anecdotal, but it is my experience.

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Or not

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/new...iest-airports/

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Define “better off”

Give examples, and comparisons, bearing in mind the answer can be wholly subjective, thereby rendering your evidence useless.

Good luck!

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

I think the argument can be summarised thus:


Pro-Brexit : We are better of as evidenced by ... but we are being hampered by "Remoaners" who are ....


Pro-EU : We are worse of as evidenced by ... and it's made worse by "Xenophobes" who are ....


There you go, clear as .....!

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Most people would use the term "better off" to apply to their personal wealth and experience. There is no subjective dimension to this. Objectively, using the above definition we are not better off. The only discussion is the amount we are poorer and how/when this is mitigated.

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If it applies to their “personal” circumstances, then it is wholly “subjective”

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

The price I pay for my food has only increased "subjectively" since we left the EU.

When I queue for hours at Dover Ferry Port, I am only queuing "subjectively".

The fruit not on the supermarket shelves due to lack of farm labour, is only not there "subjectively".

And so on ...

:dunce:

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How it affects you is subjective.

I didn’t notice how much the price of the food items affected me, as the food items I bought weren’t affected.


I didn’t queue at Dover, went from Hull, no problems at all.

The fruit in supermarkets due to producers planning accordingly is also ………….there …..objectively as they planned ahead.

And so on

:dunce:

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The question was are "we" better off .. jeez. If you want to deny reality then I can't stop you. Seems a common theme for some in this day and age: "This is my reality and I'm sticking to it"

.. don't forget, don't look up :D