Re: The anyone but England thread!
 

Im getting fed up with this anti UK attitude on the BBC now, every time we see any game they bang on about England before, during, at half-time and after the game even when they dont have anything to do with the England group.

Its a bloody disgrace!

I cant wait for them to go out now - it will be a blessed relief for the rest of the UK to hear motty cry into his Mic. How they get away with it i will never know.

Bring on the Ukraine!

Re: The anyone but England thread!
 

Total bull****. Last night in both games on the BBC after the extensive match analysis they gave a short update on what's happening in the England camp, especially in light of Owen's injury. What else would you expect?

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Them not to be consistantly mentioning England before, during and after games.

Its not bull, tell you what, the next game thats on that dosent involve England, just make a mental note of every time they mention or refer to England or an England player.

Its unbeliveable.

Re: The anyone but England thread!
 

And the 'they' would be an Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman ;)

Although I do not agree that it is as extensive as you make it out I really don't understand your objection. What else would you expect the BBC to do? Ignore that England are in the world cup and pretend that many of those viewing will not be England fans. Come on, get real.

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Quite agree. They should spend at least as much time discussing Scotland's dismal failure to reach the world cup finals. And their dismal failure ever to get past the group stage when they have qualified. That will keep the viewers interested.

Why can't you just get over the fact that many more people are interested in England than are not?

Of all the issues you could choose to try to demonstrate an imbalance in the UK, this really is the most ridiculous and trivial.

Re: The anyone but England thread!
 

While I'm staying neutral on this, why would they want to discuss a team who aren't even there?

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Because Blue Raja seems to believe that BBC broadcasts should at all times and in all places reflect the fact that the UK is a family of four nations, even if one or more of the home nations are irrelevant to the discussion. It's apparently not good enough that the UK's only team interest in this tournament is England.

When watching British TV, it is perfectly reasonable (I think) for the presenters to talk up the British angle. And the British angle at this tournament is England.

On the basis that not to talk about England, for fear of offending a small-minded minority of the Scots (and Welsh and N. Irish I suppose) audience, would be extremely childish, the only alternative is to redress the imbalance by discussing Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well.

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To be fair I think what TBR's point is to continuously discuss a team who aren't even in the game being played can be seen as over-the-top

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Who cares if it's going over the top - it's the world cup!!!!!!!!!!
And do you think that it would be any different in any other country. Oh, I'm sure Brazilian TV doesn't even mention the Brazilian team when they are not playing.

England are in the World Cup. England fans are very excited about this (many, many cars and houses are flying the St. George's Cross - which incidentally is great as the flag is being reclaimed). The BBC IS going to reflect this interest otherwise it wouldn't be doing its job.

Stop trying to spoil the party for those who want to have fun.

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Not if you're English it's not. And I appreciate not all the audience is English, but really, expecting them not to discuss England for fear of causing offence to certain of the non-English viewers is petty and trivial. If the discussion of England was at the expense of giving other UK teams fair coverage, then fair enough. But the other UK teams are not in the World Cup this year.

I'm afraid all I can see is TBR's grapes getting sourer by the minute.

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Thats the opposite of what i belive, i belive the four nations in the UK should be treated seperately and not as a family, which according to your arguement above seems to be what you believe as well. Thanks for coming over to my side of the fence mate! :tu:

Your comment about me believeing its not being good enough that England is the only team represented is not worth commenting on - thats rubbish.

I dont watch British TV, i watch BBC Scotland or STV, we have localised newspapers which more closely represent the views and opinions of the people of this area, so why arent BBC Scotland or BBC Wales etc able to broadcast their own version of a World Cup show? We do after all pay the same TV licence, why should i be forced to hear about England every 5 minutes when i watch an Brazil vs Australia game.

(Did you know Micheal Owen wasnt the only Newcastle player at the world cup this year, apparently one of the aussies is too. But Micheal Owen had just arrived back home apparently according to ITV so they thought they would use that as a nice link, well, eh, thanks for that but who cares isnt the fact he plays for Newcastle enough info? Do we care if Micheal Owen has just arrived home? Im watching Brazil v Australia.)

Who said that? I didnt, so stop putting words in my mouth please. I only asked that the BBC, if they arent going to put on regionalised shows at least remember that they are supposed to represent the "UK" and arent just broadcasting to England. I dont expect them to discuss Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland at all, i do though expect them to shut up about England when im watching a match that has absolutlely nothing to do with them IF they are not going to put on a regionalised show.

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Would you expect France to support Germany if France dont qualify tonight? I dont think so. Hence, why do people expect scotland or wales to support england?

In my opinion (which I rate very highly) the cause is the britich empire attitude. England expects all its conquests/colonies to support the mother land. Innit?

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Er, no, because they are entirely seperate countries. England/Scotland/Wales and NI make up the UK. Your argument is very very lame.
Well, when every country that needs a little help turns round cap in hand to the 'British Empire', why the **** not?

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look at some of the pundits faces when they are asked about england,

leonardo, for one epitomises the fact it is becoming boring, his face just slightly drops at the mention of the E word.

if the game does not involve england why mention them?

they never really say who Spain might get when they are at teh quarters, semis, or finals, because they can't see past england. this is what is disgraceful

ik

Re: The anyone but England thread!
 

If he's bored at the mention of the England team, he might be best off advised NOT to pundit on an ENGLISH football show. :rolleyes: :dunce:

And you don't think the coverage on Spainish television over the World Cup talks about their team all the time? :dozey: