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mrmistoffelees 03-09-2021 11:11

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36091951)
Amongst whome will be an unknown number of Islamic extreamists. :(

There also will be an unknown number who make a fulfilling contribution to the UK and our society, what's your point?

Sephiroth 03-09-2021 11:28

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36091953)
There also will be an unknown number who make a fulfilling contribution to the UK and our society, what's your point?

The point should have been obvious. Or are you trying to be difficult? Extremists have the potential (and proven record) to blow people up, stab them, shoot them and prey on others to convert to their filthy cause.

mrmistoffelees 03-09-2021 11:35

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36091956)
The point should have been obvious. Or are you trying to be difficult? Extremists have the potential (and proven record) to blow people up, stab them, shoot them and prey on others to convert to their filthy cause.


And decent people have the opportunity to build a live for themselves and their family and contribute to society.

The point my friend is thus, we should not hold views that prejudice people from another country or religion due to the actions of a few.

As an intelligent person I'm surprised you needed that explaining to you

Maggy 03-09-2021 11:59

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Right back on topic please.

Mad Max 03-09-2021 20:38

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36091936)
Yes, because the past twenty odd years of the manned and unmanned air campaign have ultimately worked out so well haven’t they?

Of course, you are right again, leftist woke crap I've ever heard.

1andrew1 03-09-2021 20:40

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36092035)
Of course, you are right again, leftist woke crap I've ever heard.

Do you think the occupation of Afghanistan has been a success? I hope in some ways it has modernised the country but I wouldn't rush to label it a success. I think - and I could be wrong - that Iraq seems to be working out ok though.

Mad Max 03-09-2021 20:50

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36092036)
Do you think the occupation of Afghanistan has been a success? I hope in some ways it has modernised the country but I wouldn't rush to label it a success. I think - and I could be wrong - that Iraq seems to be working out ok though.

Obviously not, that's why I said when we and the USA went in at first we should have bombed the hell out of the Taliban, but we all know what's happened now, back in the hands of terrorists.

mrmistoffelees 03-09-2021 21:17

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36092039)
Obviously not, that's why I said when we and the USA went in at first we should have bombed the hell out of the Taliban, but we all know what's happened now, back in the hands of terrorists.

So your implying that US/Nato didn’t try hard enough when we were involved in combat operations ?

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36092035)
Of course, you are right again, leftist woke crap I've ever heard.


Are all the ex or serving military personnel (both US and U.K.) who are asking the same question either leftist or woke also ?

Hugh 03-09-2021 21:36

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36092039)
Obviously not, that's why I said when we and the USA went in at first we should have bombed the hell out of the Taliban, but we all know what's happened now, back in the hands of terrorists.

Unfortunately, with asymmetric warfare (where the insurgents are indistinguishable from the general populace, because they live amongst them), "bombing the hell out of the Taliban’ would have involved bombing the hell out of innocent civilians, which sort of defeats the purpose of being there to protect the general populace from the Taliban.

1andrew1 03-09-2021 21:50

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36092039)
Obviously not, that's why I said when we and the USA went in at first we should have bombed the hell out of the Taliban, but we all know what's happened now, back in the hands of terrorists.

What do you know that the military experts in the Soviet Union and NATO failed to notice?

papa smurf 03-09-2021 21:55

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36092052)
Unfortunately, with asymmetric warfare (where the insurgents are indistinguishable from the general populace, because they live amongst them), "bombing the hell out of the Taliban’ would have involved bombing the hell out of innocent civilians, which sort of defeats the purpose of being there to protect the general populace from the Taliban.

Isn't that exactly what happened last week with the US drone strike on isis-k,killed one guilty man but killed and maimed dozens of innocents

Mick 15-09-2021 17:57

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
BREAKING: U.S President Joe Biden expected to announce a new nuclear defence pact with Australia and the United Kingdom, Australia’s submarine programme to go nuclear, that could put China’s nose out of joint.

http://www.politico.com/amp/news/202...sharing-511877

Sephiroth 15-09-2021 18:54

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Excellent news.

nomadking 15-09-2021 19:02

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Same number of Australian submarines as planned for some time, just nuclear powered, and not built by France. Not that big a thing.

The ones with their "nose out of joint" will be the French, who lose a $90bn contract.

Itshim 15-09-2021 19:05

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36092036)
Do you think the occupation of Afghanistan has been a success? I hope in some ways it has modernised the country but I wouldn't rush to label it a success. I think - and I could be wrong - that Iraq seems to be working out ok though.

The aim was to remove Isis, not remove the Taliban at least that was my take at the time of 9/11 . So it remains to be seen if it worked. Hate to say this but a lot of people made a lot of money out of it :( my family included:


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