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Hugh 02-05-2021 17:20
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36078603)
More like you don't like Boris and are desperate for some mud to stick, reality is most people just don't care. there are bigger things to worry about.
More like you just repeat CCHQ soundbites, and are trying to get people to ignore potential corruption and lawbreaking.

1andrew1 02-05-2021 19:12
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36078612)
More like you just repeat CCHQ soundbites, and are trying to get people to ignore potential corruption and lawbreaking.
And if we do get a Labour Prime Minister in the future who does something similar, an attack from the Conservatives will be weaker as he can just cite the precedent of PM Boris Johnson. The Conservatives will be less inclined to push the issue and the country will be more corrupt as a result.

What comes around, goes around. Corruption is bad for a country whichever colour rosette it is wearing.

Mr K 02-05-2021 21:31
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36078612)
More like you just repeat CCHQ soundbites, and are trying to get people to ignore potential corruption and lawbreaking.
If I was in CCHQ I'd be desperate to get rid of an incompetent, corrupt, lying buffoon before the next election.

1andrew1 02-05-2021 21:42
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36078623)
If I was in CCHQ I'd be desperate to get get rid of an incompetent, corrupt, lying buffoon before the next election.
Your views are not a million miles away from the Scottish Tory leader.
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Boris Johnson should resign if he is found to have broken government rules over his flat renovations, the Scottish Conservative leader has said.

Douglas Ross told the BBC that people expected the highest standards of those in the highest office of the land.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56962642

Paul 02-05-2021 23:21
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36078603)
More like you don't like Boris and are desperate for some mud to stick, reality is most people just don't care. there are bigger things to worry about.
This.

In fact, its never ending, and got tiresome long long ago.
There is always someone slinging mud to try and scrore points.
All that changes over the years is the names of the slinger and target.

Sirius 03-05-2021 08:44
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36078631)
This.

In fact, its never ending, and got tiresome long long ago.
There is always someone slinging mud to try and scrore points.
All that changes over the years is the names of the slinger and target.
So as i have already voted by mail i can say this. As long i am able to draw breath i will never vote for a Labour party who allowed there leader to take us into a war based on a lie and a leader who fully supported the IRA. That alone makes them not worth my vote.

1andrew1 03-05-2021 09:15
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36078635)
So as i have already voted by mail i can say this. As long i am able to draw breath i will never vote for a Labour party who allowed there leader to take us into a war based on a lie and a leader who fully supported the IRA. That alone makes them not worth my vote.
Trouble is if you apply this criteria to every election, you'll never vote for any but newly-formed parties. Would you vote for a Party that upheld slavery? Would you vote for a party that signed the Munich agreement? How far back do you go in the history of a political party to find a policy or action that you vehemently disagree with.

As someone who has voted for several parties (Conservative, Green, Labour, Liberal Democrat, Independent) I take a view at each election and use my vote accordingly. I don't treat political parties like football teams who get your unstinting support from cradle to grave regardless of their performance.

Sirius 03-05-2021 09:29
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36078636)
Trouble is if you apply this criteria to every election, you'll never vote for any but newly-formed parties. Would you vote for a Party that upheld slavery? Would you vote for a party that signed the Munich agreement? How far back do you go in the history of a political party to find a policy or action that you vehemently disagree with.

As someone who has voted for several parties (Conservative, Green, Labour, Liberal Democrat, Independent) I take a view at each election and use my vote accordingly. I don't treat political parties like football teams who get your unstinting support from cradle to grave regardless of their performance.
I also take a view at each election and have voted for Conservative, Green, Liberal Democrat, Independent however i can never forgive Labour for what they did. The biggest bad taste for me is the link to the IRA and that will never go away for me.

papa smurf 03-05-2021 09:42
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Looks like the writing's on the wallpaper for kier

voters want to hear about jobs – not Boris Johnson’s wallpaper

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/148341...-keir-starmer/

1andrew1 03-05-2021 10:03
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36078639)
The biggest bad taste for me is the link to the IRA and that will never go away for me.
Can you expand upon what you mean by this?

Chris 03-05-2021 10:09
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36078642)
Can you expand upon what you mean by this?
He already did, above, and you already read and replied to that post :confused:

1andrew1 03-05-2021 10:15
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36078644)
He already did, above, and you already read and replied to that post :confused:
Which leader does he mean? I'm not aware of any Labour leader who "fully supported the IRA."

Maggy 03-05-2021 10:16
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36078646)
Which leader does he mean? I'm not aware of any Labour leader who "fully supported the IRA."
Me neither but I'm sure he will enlighten us..

papa smurf 03-05-2021 10:23
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36078646)
Which leader does he mean? I'm not aware of any Labour leader who "fully supported the IRA."
He said link to the IRA.

Hugh 03-05-2021 10:47
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36078649)
He said link to the IRA.
He said
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a leader who fully supported the IRA
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36078635)
So as i have already voted by mail i can say this. As long i am able to draw breath i will never vote for a Labour party who allowed there leader to take us into a war based on a lie and a leader who fully supported the IRA. That alone makes them not worth my vote.


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